monty dan
Aug 9 2004, 01:54 PM
does any1 konw if GH One Part™ Bio Active Nutrient is the same as GH Flora Nova
coz it seems i can only find Flora Nova on usa sites and One Part on uk/europe ones
peace
MD
RingoBrownsword
Sep 8 2004, 07:21 PM
Thats funny because I have asked the same question over at overgrow. I'll get back if theres any replies!
I want to try some as I'm sure its the same thing. Could email them I suppose.
Problem is not many places stock it but I suppose anywhere that sells GH stuff should be able to order it in.
Mr. Bassie
Sep 16 2004, 02:22 AM
AFAIK that Flora Nova was based on the lucas formula for the 3 part so if they have a nutrient analysis for this other stuff (altho npk may be enough) u can compare (i would look for it mnyself but to stoned) with the Flora Nova.
Which leads me onto...
If you can't get it but u want to use the same thing basically u can use somethign like oml of grow 7ml of micro and 15ml of bloom per gallon (0/7/15 ml per us gallon) or 0/2/4 ml per litre the npk ratios on these 2 are very close to the kucas formula.
Mel franks (i think) did some research n shit and found out that in general cannabis needs 100N 100P 200K 40Mg and all the other nutrients will be fine because micro has all we need in the right amount.
so the original lucas formula gets:
| CODE |
N P K Mg 130 106 183 73 |
So quite close (btw these numbers are arbitrary in that they don't have to represent exact amounts but ratios, however i think these numbers are close to the numbers for if u dilute 1ml of each nutrient in 1 litre how many mg(or something) of each nutrient there is but it is a bit vague right now. But it is the ratio that is important anyway.)
Thats using U.S GH nutes and U.S gallons. Euro gh nutes are slightly different but it doesn't matter because we can use the nutrient profiles we know for the euro nutes and match those numbers to Mel Franks which is what a guy called PH taught Lucas on cannabisworld to do and how they found 0/8/16ml per gallon (basically).
So unfortunately the ppm calculator tool someone on overgrw made only does us gallons so i have to use those for the euro stuff too but i use litres anyway its just for example tbh.
| CODE |
___ml of___ Micro Bloom N P K Mg 2 4 111 118 202 96 ^per litre^ 7 15 103 117 199 95 ^per gallon^ 8 16 130 106 183 73 -the original lucas formula using us gh ^per gallon^ |
As u can see these numbers are very close Mg is a little high but it will be fine.
This may seem like alot to take in but it is all simple maths and trial and error tbh

i hope it helps abit maybe.
BTW I have used 2/4 per litre for 1 nft grow and it went well 20 oz's-ish under 600w.
This is all correct i think but as i say very stoned so if not then erm yeah well its proably right.
RingoBrownsword
Dec 5 2004, 11:54 PM
Very comprehensive answer!
Unfortunately this one part mix isnt the same as the 3 part. For a start it contains silicone and secondly its ONE part! So the chemistry must differ as the molecules would have to contain everything needed, if you see what I mean.
I'm edging towards the idea of the one part formulas as they look quite clever and the marketing blurb indicates less pH fluctuation.