Looking for a basic gowing medium, my local shop showed me some sacks of stuff called Cellmax. Couldn't understand the writing on it (Dutch) but it apparently only needs watering through the full cycle.

On being told it's £15 a sack, I needed a glass of water and resucitation.

Is it any good, or can some recomend a cheaper alternative?

TIA

I would recomend Bio Bizz, It gives excelent results its organic and costs between about £10 and £12.Check out the organic section most of the growers on there use it.
Murran.

Cellmax is just rockwool thats been chopped up into pieces. So you can fill a pot with it say. It is classed as hydroponic so it will need nutrients all the way through the cycle...not just water.
I agree with Murran, try and get yourself some Biobizz (compost) it will still need nutrients, but it's organic and specially suited to herb.

If you go the cellmax route you would need a pH testing kit and also a EC meter to mix up your nutrient to the correct strenght. Some people get away without using one, but they are very lucky.

Biobizz is usually about £12 for 50 litres. Or you could use a compost from your local garden centre, you'll find these a cheaper way of growing weed. Them Ec meters will cost ya over £50 alone if you go for the cellmax.

There is a product called cellmax which "is" just chopped up rockwool.
This stuff is different.

-or if you're on a budget, several growers are getting very good results from J Arthur Bowers New Horizon peat free organic compost - dirt cheap, and available at lots of garden centres!

Just try the Universal Soil Mix from Cellmax, we r receiving better feedback than the Allmix grower's.

Peace out!
dutchie

Wouldn't be very good SPAM if you weren't!

Why is there no usefull information on your website?

I also note that Messrs Cellmax have recently spent a fortune on large glossy ads in the "canna press", add to that its ludicrously high price, and the fact that even their website gives no details whatsoever of its contents, and as to whether it is organic...........
Personally, I'd stick with Allmix, or if on a budget, the J Arthurs Bowers stuff!
I get sick and fed up to the back teeth with bloody hydro shop owners foisting off expensive rubbish on newcomers, who really don't need it! - if proof is needed, just look at what nav182 managed growing with the Biobizz range - first time!

personally, if I had a truly organic product that was new on the market, I'd make a few sacks available to some of the members of somewhere like this, so that it could be trialled properly.........along with FULL details of its contents, their origin, and "organic" status (or not!)

if Cellmax want to donate a few sacks and a modest cash donation to the site, I'm sure we could arrange for a side by side comparison grow against Allmix

A couple of sacks with the correct labelling would be preferential though

How about it Cellmax ?
It's a much cheaper way to spread the word and back your big claims than all those expensive full page ads that nobody bothers to read

Cracking idea Joolz.....

does involve them putting their money where there spam is tho'....


can't see them having the balls for that ...


Laz

Or credibility

Tut tut!

The manners of some people these days!

I saw Cellmax were advertising some of their products as organic, I think it was in weedworld a bit back, so I wrote to them, they assure me that they were organic. After some intensive exchanges, it came out that there were some mineral amendments added to balance the fertilisers. They treated me like I was an idiot for asking or asking for proof, anyhow mineral is a nice way of saying chemical.

As far as I can make out they are not registered or have approved products with any organic authority anywhere in the eu. It was like trying to pull teeth out of an unwilling tiger getting any real info out of them. The excuse mainly being, trade secrets.

This is total do do, there is the ukrofs list of approved organic ingredients for organic use, once something is formulated from the list it should be certified as an organic product by an eu organic authorisation body.

From what I could glean from Cellmax the closest they could come is a product with some organic base products supplemented with some chemicals. Under uk law these can be sold as organic based if fertilisers [like blood fish and bone has sulphate of potash added to balance the npk] or if a compost the term organic can not be used. I suspect they are breaking the uk trade description act big time with the claims in their adverts.

If we could see some proof of organic certification, so we know we are talking eggs and eggs, I’m sure we could arrange a side by side grow.

Bet their fooling a nice little fortune out of alot of people. Glossy bollox, the only thing good here is the graphic design thats gone into the ads.

If CELLMAX1 is truely a representative of Cellmax I cannot believe how stupid he/she has been, or how naive they are. Making one crass post and not backing it up with any facts doesn't show their company in a good light.

They've lost my custom.

hey guys,most of the m/j i've grown has been in b&q multipurpose compost,but i have also mixed in approx 30% ji#2,this seems to work for me, plus a bit of biogro/biobloom/topmax,its a learning process my grows seem to get a little better each grow,i've been over here in the usofa for 3 weeks and my young pup has cropped 3 plants in growbox for me[not smoked it i hope]i also have [maybe had!] about 12/15 plants in g/h and on patio in the above mix,so what kind of state they'll be in now is anyones guess take care guys twinkle

Im currently growing with cellmax, I've yet to encounter any major problems but this is also my first grow (the bloke in the grow shop sold it to me). Ill update this if there is anything major to report, though there did seem to be a K deficencecy which was sorted using a mild nute feed.

How much did you pay for the soil budly if you dont mind me asking? I have heard folk paying £20

do they do short-term mortgages to pay for it?

Guys you is gettin ripped off, the going rate for it in Bristol is no more than 14 squids, think the rrp is around the 15 mark but don't quote me on that

From feedback i have recieved from peeps that have used both cellmax and biobizz, the biobizz wins by far One blokey said that the cellmax killed off his plants

That said I still don't think that the Biobizz range have caught on with everybody thus far. it's still relatively new in places and in Bristol especially peeps are more inclined to go for cellmax as that is the product that is pushed all over, shame really

I have a friend currently doing a side by side grow, in one room he is going all biobizz (allmix, biogrow, bloom and topmax) and in the other he's using Cellmax with earth grow and bloom. I'll try to get him to join the forums and post his progress, but he is very secretive and para, maybe I'll sweet talk him into it but I'll let ya know of the out come guys.

All the best peeps and have a good'un

I'll bend his ears tomorrow, but he is bigger than me

personally, I reckon a quiet word should be had in the shell-like of the recently appointed UK distributor to try and get Allmix in far more local growshops!
now if only I knew who it was!

Well it aint Togs Vlad mate. Hes stopped suppling other shops as they were taking the piss on price and in future is only going to be a retail outlet that serves the people and not fat wallets.

I can now get a 50l sack of Allmix from my local franchise growshop for a tenner.

Every time you walk in to your local & they ain't selling what you want, keep hassling them to get it in.

Or better still, shop at the Organicgrowshop

got no probs with mail order from Togs, but carriage on a sack of Allmix has got to be a bit hefty!

that's bloody good, it'd take me a damned sight more than that in petrol to go and pick some up! (not counting the time involved)

I cant say which is better the cellmax or biobizz coz this is my first grow, however, I can say that im having to feed nutes still with cellmax in veg, it says you dont have to feed till the last 3 weeks but they looked like they were needing potassium or mg. I gave them a quarter of the recommended dosage with some 6-3-6 cheap organic plant feed and they perked up well.
At the same time though, my Blueberry seems to have grown very slowy in comparison to the Nirvana Ice. But Blueberry is a tricky strain for a newb anyway, right?

Iam at this point debating on what mix im gonna buy, i know my local hydro shop sells "B`cuzz" brands not to sure about biobizz tho

Iam purchasing a 255 watt Florescent light from the shop tomorrow (along with the mix), but m gonna inquire into how much they charge for thier envirolitles. I was wondering would that Florescent have more or less of an advantage over the envirolites, which sounds best the flores gonna cost me £80

(A pic of the only seed tht germinated today ) not sure what type it is but ive had some bud off this plant "bought" and found some seeds, good smoke too

I'm 1 week into flowering on my first grow using cellmax...no probs so far, although as its my first attempt, I've got nopthing to compare against!!

I had to feed twice in veg using maxicrop veg and also had a mg problem, but epsom salts sorted that out.

My local shop sells 50ltr of cellmax for 10.99 and buy 4 bags get one free...not a bad deal i don't reckon!!!

whats the advertisement world coming to?
quite disappointing really, u cant even grow herb in peace these days, organic this organic that, bigger those bigger these!
bio bizz range all the way, please