Well the closet has been several weeks deliberating where, then some how, and week to build. phew!

growroom details
gr size is 70cmx60cmx2m high
have a 250w sont plus in a mini wing
using tdk 160/100 extractor fan
with 2 6' clip on fans
passive intake 70cmx5cm (whats
white walls


plants
8 from 9 seeded (one to remain on 3rdfloorwindow)
plants reppotted to 12cm pots and moved to growroom yesterday 5 weeks since germinating and getting varied sun on window sill.
potted in JI#2

have, but not used biobizz bloom and grow and not sure when to use them

look's good m8 but meybe you should put up some reflect a grow or myler or something like that it would make it more reflective and bounce the lunmens about more makeing the most of the 250w it would make it bit hoter but it sound's like you got the fan's to cool it down...

(more light more lunmens and more lunmens more bud)

i think...?

hope this help's

Its nice to see it after reading about it

like i say i put them in last night and went to the pub with my girlfriend babysitting. its a shame she didnt tell me last night that she saw some brown/yellow/curling of leaves as she sleeps in and i get up at 6 to turn the lights on. 3 hours latter she tells me!!!

anyway they were pretty dry and the lamp just a few inches from the top of the canopy. gave them a water, put some white card on the pots (cos ive seen it in photos and assume its to reflect light and stop the soil from drying out) and lifted the lamp 9 inches from the plants, slowly slowly me thinks.

now its pretty warm in there if my argos purchased hygrowmeter works properly. 30 centigrade with 40% humidity and it must be said its a pretty cool day. got the door slightly ajar but dont think it helps.

so how am i doing? they look quite good apart from this example and a few burnt tips. when can i start to introdouce nutes?

thanks in advance for all help

looks the business, go for it,,,

Once you start to drop the light closer you might want to think how tall your girls are going to grow 'cause of penetration. Could start off 1/4 nutes.

sorry bush could you expand on that? sorry if i sound a bit thick

im so proud of em

not too proud of the lash up wiring job. its safe enough till i get some double sockets put in. notice ive got a smoke alarm and done the bungee thing with the extractor fan ive also got a small flouro auxilary lamp (not for growing).

you'll see that i just have a small amount of ducting coming of my extractor. is this ok or should i bring it lower to nearer the lamp and plants?

another lousy day on the window sill so have put the 9th plant in there. full house now.

It all looks great. You've got near 60w/sqft there but the light can only penetrate effectively so far, about 2.5ft , I think. How were you thinking of growing your plants, kinda SOG or small tree? Only if you were growing larger/taller plants would penetration be a problem. Your 250's perfect for the size.

bush mate i thought i'd done my homework (must try harder )

what are the rules about penetration and what are my options on this grow? i hadn't really thought of it. currently have the lamp 9inches off the plants as although they are 5 weeks old its day one under lights and ive already managed to burn them!. just thought that id let em grow as tall as they like as height isnt really an issue. is the right approach or would i be better off scrog or small tree like you ask? cheers

they're doing alright a few days in under lights.

need to water'em more though as they can get quite dropsy and im taking mdp's tip to start introdoucing nutes. bit crowded in there i know

theyre lookin good,

i dont rekon theyre overcrowded in there at all....

....yet

They are looking good, very nice. 9" away is fine as long as you've tested it with the back of your hand. What I'd be tempted to do is pinch out the growing tip on each plant fairly soon, it's not too crowded in there just now and if you pinch out you should have a fairly even canopy loaded in growing tips. By the look of things you could do that and go 12/12 when they're all about 12" tall, maybe just under. Your 250 is good for about 2.5ft but it not really relevant if you grow like that. It's kinda SOG but loads of other folks here will know better the ins and outs of different styles of growing best suited for you.

thanks for the encouraging words guys im really enjoying this. will be reading up more about 'pinching the growing tips etc' as i have no idea how to do this. anyway without further ado here is one of the larger plants this morning.

and from above...

going back to your ducting query- you should be extracting from the highest point in the growroom - as near the "ceiling" as you can get, so you'd be better off either removing the ducting completely from the inlet side, or bending it upwards to suck the air from the very top of the grow space - hot air will "pool" above the exhaust, and cause your temperatures to soar!

thanks for that vlad. in that case im thinking that i will attach my soon to be built diy carbon filter straight on to my extractor. initialy i put some ducting on to stop light entering the gr, which it didn't! i hope that the carbon filter does that and by removing the ducting what i lose on draw from the filter will not be so so bad.
thanks again.

elzaar i hope your right

my plants are 46 days into vegging (14 under lights), and have i started watering alternate days and feeding alternate watering times

i think its ok but my early/lower leaves are now lime green or yellow, rest of plant looks real healthy though. what do you think?

not really showing any signs of maturity yet which aint a bad thing as it will be 60 days before i can flower them

queing up to be watered...

think your right bambi but as im sure you know its great to have a little reassuarance. really happy withhow they're are doing. heres some pics from this morning after waking up and finished breakfast, browse of the papers...

back under the lights...

finally got round to some much needed improvements to my gr. wasn't at all happy bout the wiring arrangement so have fitted some double sockets which will make it easy to isolate individual bits of kit. also wired up my contactor which is probably capable of handling the load of the block of flats. gives a satisfying clunk when it kicks in. anyway it cost me didly squat so im happy with it

Looking good felon. I wouldn't worry about the yellowing lower leaves now you've started feeding them, but it might be time to repot...

Your plants look good felon. Well done and keep up the good work.

looking good

and startin to get cozy

well they still growing. at 18-20inches and finnaly got the courage to top them hoping this slows down the top and helps them bush out. elsewhere ive had a disaster as far as carbon filter building goes disaster area keep clear
oh well everything else is better than my expectations just waiting for them to mature a bit. they got preflowers but i need to get myself a magnyfying glass to tell better. but they the branches haven't started to alternate and its so many weeks already vegging. wait a little longer i guess

topped!

looks nice and healthy, i rekon you should flick it to 12/12

just a little update to take me to 100 posts

cheers contico. 12/12 is nigh at last. idealy would have done so sooner but was away at womad last weekend and have been increasing light out time since. i keep looking at the preflowers and am about 50% certain that i got at least 4 girls out of the 9 which will do me fine. hopefully i'll know soon cos i cant repot till then as there isn't enough room

anyway heres a recent pic to celebrate my first ton of posts

another shot

this is the pan connector im hoping to turn into a space saving, push fit filter was going to extend it a little and cover it in filter masks

anyone looking for some activated carbon

dont know if anyones still reading this but heres an update of the grow.

pleased to announce that i had 4 girls to choose from very happy

the lovely ladies were rewarded with some nice new pots

which is great cos now the lower branches can get some light and the plants should start to bush out. i hope. my only real prob is height. next time ill vegg earlier defo

oops wanted to put this first.


girl showing sex

shame about the boys - and poss one girl. in a way the jobs made easy for me cos 4 plants max is all i can take through to bud. shame though as they provide some nice foliage in the bathroom. dont quote me on this but i sit on the toilet and play with their bollocks

edit to add pic

seems like its all going well

im not liking that 90o bend on your pan connector though very restrictive

and as for those boys in your bathroom kill every single last motherfucking one of them now cos you really dont want any pollen anywhere in your house

anyway the fun begins here im hoping to see some fat buds soon

know what your saying contico about the bend but way i see it im gonna have at least one bend on it anyway. still havn't actually made filter though as im concerned about getting as much surface area as poss. not much action on the drawing board either

yeah and thanks for striking me out of that lushy sentimental dreamer mode. time to toughen up gonna say goodnight to them for one last time then its time

surly another day

just to update ive lost my anxiety due to plants height but may end up with two plants so i can bend the stems.

been building my carbon filter but im going to wait to see if it works first before i post some pics. gotta say though im pretty optimistic

will post some pics of the girls latter

happy weekend all

3rd floor

ps contico. is done, honest

drum roll please

he's only gone and done it.

idea from materials at work and i think it was paradoxdevil who has a thousand ideas for carbon filters. really chuffed cos what with ahem! a certain football match - easy! in the east end of london to get over i needed a positive to finish the weekend of course its to be seen if it removes smell -cant see why it wont - it pulls pretty much the same which was my main concern. anyway more filter pics later for now i got something else to show you

10 days or so into flowering and its the moment ive all been waiting for. apart from the other one of course

not so good that last one sorry heres another shot

ahhh felon ty mucho i aim to help

this and the last pic show how its getting a bit busy again. not sure if ill keep 1 or 2 plants out of the 4 cos tieing them down is going to take up canopy space. shame but got to go for best yield suppose. anyway will decide in a week or so.

best wishes all

3ff