Just tried some cheese, me and a mate x 2 king size smokes
...........bladdered !!

Its a unreal smoke isnt it? been smoking 20yrs and this is the most potent and smelly smoke i have ever tried. Fantastic fruity aroma, dense buds, and a wicked high...for me the best (at the mo)

indeed.. cheese is defo one of the strongest smokes out there..

has any one grown this red stemed beauty,just picked up a cutting of the fine thing,the person i got it off realy did not tell me what it likes and does not like,or if it grows lanky or squat,the only thing i know is that it looks lovely when flowering, dense crystal formation,and lots of little firm buds every where,and does not go into single colas well..so any help would be good good....peace and one love to all,jah bless

hi dam,

you can give your cheese the same good conditions as any other cannabis plant you have ,she seems to like a lot of room for her root structure to develop ,not too high an e.c. and try not to let her come into contact with any spiders they will devour cheese before they start on your other plants .

to make decent sized colas you need a fair amount of light and not too long in veg. if you are in hydro ,in soil a little longer in veg. to get the plant established.

i pinch mine only once or not at all ,plants pinched more than one time will lose too much of their structure imho.

i am using nft with canna aqua and hps lighting and get a fair yeild but nothing like the thick colas i would get with the same conditions and a big yeilding plant.

having said that what the cheese lacks in quantity she makes up for with her quality

cf

How long exactly do you give your cheese in veg CF?

hi cheesy,

i've been giving them a week to get going in the nft before i go 12/12 this is with cuttings that are already pinched in 2" pots at a spacing of 5/6 per sq. metre but they have definitely been getting a bit too tall and the bottom third of the plant is mostly rubbish.....so.....this time i've got 8 persq. metre and stuck them straight onto flowering.
so far(4 weeks) its looking like there a bit small and i may be better off giving them a couple of long days next time around.

i guess this is more than a bit room dependent, ive got over 60 w per sq. ft.and a heat problem which i'm always trying to deal with, which i've noticed seems to make them motor quite a bit,i'm sure if the room was cooler i would need to veg for longer.but then again i could make more of my co2 ...swings? roundabouts?

hope this helps

cf

What do you reckon about vegging them for 4 weeks CF mate ?
Would i need to pinch em out if i did veg that long ?
I may even veg for longer, maybe 6 weeks.
All my vegging is done under a 600w Metal Halide, then i flower under a 600w Sodium Grolux.

Hi CF,

Yes it all helps !

I waited for a few weeks in veg first time, and took cuttings.

The cuttings are a few weeks old, say 10 days out of the incubator. They look healthy though.

They are on 12/12 in a 8'x4' room with 1800w. I have them in the corner whilst i comlete another lot. Yeh they do seem to like the higher temps. The room is hot, sometimes approaching 100 !

The bottom third of these last plants where a waste, the plant is pretty bushy anyway so i will trim the bottom 1/3rd off next time. Interested to make the most bud sites out of these micro clones that i have put in flower...i have read enough to convince me others are doing it straight from clones with other strains..but other info says otherwise...

When you say pinch them - can you describe what you mean in laymans terms, bit of a newb you see..and dont want to turn these clones into a bunch of Cheese sticks

Cheers, Cheesey

Hi CF, yeh all usefull info...

Any chance of a pic of your plants at 4 weeks into flower? so i can get a idea of how many of the smaller plants i will be able to fit in...

Also Stealth I would not say veggin for six weeks from clones is going to help. Unless you plan to take loads of cuttings. I vegged mine for about 4 weeks and they are way too bushy, with as Cheese Farmer says too much growth and shoots doing nothing in the bottom 1/3rd of the plant. Proberly taking away growth from elsewhere...

cheese cuttings put straight onto 12/12 @ 4 1/2 weeks....

you are looking at 12 plants

Thanks Cheese Farmer,u have help me put my mind at rest..i grow s.o.g but i intend to grow it s.c.o.g to help wid the bush shape and 2 stop it streching to high, coz i want it the same hight as the rest of my babys,for a even spred of light over my hole garden,do u think this would work ok? forgot to say i grow bio in 1meter by 50cm beds under H.P.S humidity is 40 to 45% ,heat is bang on ph of soil is 6-6.5 depending if there in veg or bud.. each bed has a 400watt h.p.s over it. if there is anything that u can see that the cheese does not like can u tell me please mate.. And could u tell me how long it takes 2 flower ruffley,and does it stretch like haze when u put in into flower or is it ok..any help would be most kind. Thanks CHEESE FARMER NUFF LOVE 2 U AND YOUR GIRLS, JAH BLESS

hi dam,sounds like youre giving your plants a nice home

Thanks for the 4 1/2 week pic CF

Thanks CHEESE FARMER i shall experiment wid flowewrnig times and start picking when 60% of tris are clear and the rest milky and then like u said every week after that,thanks for info bro.. was thinking of making a new room to play wid nft to see if i can get better yields,do u grow hydro, if so if i need any help wid cheese in hydro in the future can i get your pearls of wisdom,never tryed nft befor for 5 years always bio.. by the way me not from luton me from london way, near the big bad essex border. Thanks and Jah bless u and the super silver haze i am just about to chong......

hey dam

glad to be of help bruv,dont hesitate to quiz me on hydro , i do grow nft and i have some experience of how the cheese gets on in this system.

excuse me for suggesting you might hail from luton (not one of the most salubrious towns in england if you've never had the pleasure) but a lot of my brethren from bedfordshire offer up praises to'His Imperial Majesty'at the drop of a hat

happy chonging

cf

Thanks Cheese Farmer,any help would be good help if i grow nft,, never tryed to grow that way in my life so will most probley fuck some thing up on the first grow.. going down my grow shop next week to look at nft beds,got a little room in mind that i can use,so i think at the weekend i will get my flat white paint out.. One more thing do u think people would bye cheese seeds,coz i have done quite a lot of work on breeding and back crossing in my time,so thinking of stressing a little buding cheese plant by adding small amounts of citric to the water to make it ham so i get some male flowers,and wid that pollon put on on a 100% female plant to make some seeds, or do u think there would be no market for them????...sorry rambaling on again,to much somango and silver smoked today.. have had the pleasure of the luton town be4 and u right it not the best place in the world reminds me of harlow....Thanks for the help bro jah bless..........

dam have a look hereand here for nft stuff.


i am interested in what you are saying about seeds...in a bit of a rush now but we should get our heads together over this for sure

cf

Good idea Cheese Farmer....no what u mean,every thing a rush in this heat,humidity in my room has gone up by 2% not good . Good idea the seeds,people will bye them with all this hype on cheese,so think we shouls make most out of it while we can,it will be like the G13 in U.S.. jah bless

Hiya lads, heres my cheese clones after a week under the enviro's....

Nice healthy looking babies there nice one.
Tokes nice as well just enjoyed a little cheese and G7 mix mmmmmm.

Hi everyone!

Can anybody tell me something about the genetical make-up of that Cheese? And is it possible to get some seeds from EU seed companies (or is it forbidden to advertise seed companies here? ). Sounds like very interesting strain, and if I can get it somewhere, it would probably be one of my next grows along with Sensi Star and Western Winds , if I'm gettig !

Wierd question, but could one of you guys who've smoked cheese answer me what kind of smoke it is ? Sounds weird, but I'm gonna hopefully be smoking some in a couple of days and was wondering what to expect - I get nervous trying out new strains cos although I love toking, I do have a tendency to get incredibly edgy if it's an edgy smoke, 'specially if I accidentally put too much in my first spliff. Some of the 'skunk' that's been floating round dealers in recent years has just made me pure para, and I know that's not down to pot in general, I can smoke some strains till they are coming out of my ears with no para at all.

Sorry, just nice to know what to expect (specially since I won't have had a spliff for about a week).

Sorry Boojum,

Whizz don't do para

I had the great pleasure of smoking some Cheese recently during the Fair, and was quite surprised at the taste. Smells sweet, tastes sweet, smokes sweet...

Dunno if it was the atmosphere, but the buzz was sweet too

No need to be sorry, I'm glad you don't. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, certainly not sound people. Apologies if it's teaching granma to suck eggs, but I reckon the best way to keep it that way is to give amphetamines a wide berth, I never used to get para til I got into whizz. Cheers for the input, I'm quite excited - like a kid waiting for christmas, I've heard pretty much good reports across the board - guess the answer is to roll a cheeky little single skinner first as a taster, let me know what I'm in for

funny, this is like a real newbie question, I'm just really cautious nowadays (d'oh, if only I had been fifteen years ago, I might not need to now). Sorry for dragging the thread off topic again - I think of them more as starting points....


Edited to add maybe not steer clear of amphetamines, can't blame the drug if used sensibly, but steer clear of stupid amphetamine binges.

Hey Booj

What smokes dont make you para mate? do u usally smoke Indicas? list what strains dont make u paranoid.

Many of the real strong Sativas can make you a bt edgy apparently but like Whizz i dont do para, Cheese is a very strong Sat dom. It is quite a UP smoke..a lot of smokers are completely unused to heavy Sat doms..very different stone to the Indica body stone, and some do report feeling edgy.

But the Cheese is a very special smoke, most absolutely love it who try it. It is very strong, so take it easy to begin with.



Peace
Cheesy

PS: edited to add there is no sensible use of Amphet. imho..

Got some more pics for the cheese thread.

These are in BioBizzLite after 32 days 12/12.

And a close up.

nice pics luverly

39 days flower...not long now aye ?

Bring on the buds...!

Looking lovely there matey !! can wait till the smoke reports...

Excellant work Stealth, lovely plants and nice thread. BTW, I remember you using Vita Link nutes for some reason (could be workng though) one thing i found with those nutes and the Cheese is i have had to stretch the fluching time right out to ten days, using PHd water for 7, and then plain untill crop. That means i am starting flushing mine at day 50.

In fact i have gone back to the Canna nutes now as the smoke seems a little harsh with the VL and a lot smoother with Canna...

No cheesy i'm using soft water hydrotops bioponics, i will be using the vita link buddy later on in a couple of weeks.

, thought i might have it wrong, i think i will try those hydrotops bioponic meself soon, those plants and others i have seen fed with them look very lush. Watch that Buddy mate, its sooo strong.

Anyway looking forward to the harvest Stealth, when you planning on cropping, or you going to watch those Trich's...

Nice grow my friend, nice grow.

i'm gonna ask all u guys when u think its ready of course

ROFL...

I asked cus there is all manner of views on the best time to crop the cheese, anywhere from between 7 thorugh to 12...seems to be a real difference in the smoke.

whens the best time to cut the cheese


sorry, in a juvenile mood

Stealth - Are they your Bio-Bizz plants, or your hydro ones?

BioBizz mate.
The ones i cloned from.

They look lovely mate!