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BushDoctoR
ok, ive been growing cinderella since last year, and she is definately one of the best tasting AND most potent strains i, and my mates have smoked (and we get some good weed round here), but i notice she hassnt won any awards or anything, and the only hype i hear about her seems to be here @ uk420

why is this??? when you consider that strains like white widow get talked about all the time, it seems silly that most non-420ites (even some largeish scale growers i know) have never heard of cindy

anyone got any views on this??


(or maybe im just out of touch with reality.....) whistling.gif



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pd666
yipp im doing a cindy x hashplant cross and its diamond heavy resin frosty dense buds
Bish
Have a read of this thread

I found it yesterday after searching for something completely different - Joey Weed makes a top post wink.gif

Dohped
it was nice to see someone stand up and say BOLLOX

cheers for that bish

half way down the page i was starting to think - "bloody hell everyone at home raves about cindy, wtf is going on???"

thank the lord Joey Weed stepped in, and i agree with his opinion that cindy will induce anxiety if you are succeptable to it, that one guy who lost it in K-mart and had to bang his fist on his car......

i doubt that was the cindy my friend.

and did i recognise somebodies avatar on that forum??
Cannafish
He he. UB avatar gets around a bit whistling.gif


I'll make my own mind up about C99.



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Boojum
I was gonna try to get some for my next grow (along with bubblegum), but I don't reckon I'll bother now - a lot of folks seem to sweep the paranoia aspect of strains under the carpet, choosing to ignore it, so it's good to see folks actually say "this strain can be a pokey one if you're susceptible" - I am so I reckon I'll give cindy a miss.
Dohped
thats a nice point boojum m8, i myself am succeptible, or have been in the past, but having only smoked soap for the past 10 years, i am expecting a bit of a rollercoaster for the first few months of proper weed.

it would be nice to know a little about the easy going strains, as the mrs gave up smoking cos she didn't like being fucked all the time, so it would be an interesting rating for a strain....paranoia-ometer kind of thing.

as a wake and baker, i like the idea of strains for the daytime and strains for the evenink, and am looking very much forward to the differences in the strains. (although will be a few grows yet before i get some nice mummy plants)

maybe something to poll about?

in the strainbase, maybe?
Bish
QUOTE (uglybudly @ May 10 2004, 01:24 PM)
some people that get paranoia from smoking cannabis , should give it up in my opinion
depressed or bi polar , or schitzophrenic people should just say no to it
i think the cannabis just releases peoples paranoia, ( its there all along , but smoking cannabis amplifies it, like everything else)


I agree to a certain extent when you say that cannabis can amplify paranoia, but it is down to the strain you're smoking.

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Certain strains of cannabis increase anxiety while others decrease it. This is also true for other emotions, which some strains may suppress while others may augment their intensity. Generally stimulating and head varieties are the ones that can produce unwanted anxiety, but this is not always the case. Quickly cured buds or an over-early harvest are contributing factors to anxiety-increasing pot, but this trait is also genetic in nature.


Source

I love C99, but she's starting to bore me a bit now wink.gif
detoxed
So how does GD fit in all this considering it has some C99 in it ?

Detoxed
Bish
It would seem the new GD swings heavily to the Indica side now with G13 being dom sad.gif

C99 is all about the harvest date for me. 54-56 is about right, clear trichs. Any longer & she pulls out the sofa wink.gif

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i don't agree MR Bishop that there is a Paranoid strain out there, just the effect it has on the individual, not the masses


So Soul is talking bollocks? I think not wink.gif
Bish
There's no "Reefer Madness" about it UB. Certain strains WILL produce anxiety more than other strains.

And harvest timing is critical.

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i have heard of jerk offs putting pcp , or angel dust in their weed


Now THAT is reefer madness from across the pond!
Boojum
Certain strains will produce paranoia & anxiety in some, what hasn't (yet) been established is if these strains potentially have those effects on everyone or just certain susceptible individuals. I don't see the problem with recognising that, being honest enough to say it aloud, and maybe advising those who know themselves to be susceptible (myself included) of which strains are more likely to have this negative effect. Even if it were proven that these effects were strain dependent but everyone was susceptible, I still don't see the problem - legalization isn't going to come by convincing those in power that pot is harmless, we're never gonna do that (and it isn't), it's gonna come when attitudes towards personal freedom and what it is our right to do change. What we, as intelligent tokers, need to do is be as honest as we can about the risks as well as the benefits, and demonstrate that we have made an informed choice, that we are not just slaves to addiction or whatever other labels the media wish to give us.

Sorry, stoned, probably off topic or apropos of nothing much, but I just got flowing. Don't worry, I didn't bother to take me coat off this time whistling.gif
Bish
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Certain strains will produce paranoia & anxiety in some, what hasn't (yet) been established is if these strains potentially have those effects on everyone or just certain susceptible individuals.


After reading Shorts peice Boo, it would seem everyone. Hence the reference to "seasoned" and critical "elders" as tasters to new strains.
Gigahertz
I haven't smoked for a month and can honestly say that I have never been more balanced in my moods or happier..

I have realised therefore, that my previous habit of smoking everyday (albeit just 1/8 per week) does not suit me. It brings me down.

I'm a Friday, Saturday, Sunday smoker from now on. That's my new rule - if my first grow gives me anything to smoke that is.. cos my other new rule is to avoid dealers.
oldtimer1
I use to talk with Mr Soul right from the start of his breeding project. I have grown P75 P88 C99 and P x P brother. All had similar characteristics. To me its a slightly indica dominant high, thats only my opinion. The thing Mr Soul did was make a relatively true breeding strain. This was a stunning thing to do for the cannabis world.

Where most the seed banks in Holland have been making closet hack crosses for the last 20 years. Mr Soul made a true breeding line. DJ Short released blueberry, another true breeder a few years before that. Prior to that there were the other American IBL’s, Northern lights, Original Haze, Skunk#1, Durban Poison, Early Pearl, Early Girl, Hindu Kush, Afghani#1, Californian Orange, Hash Plant, all were varieties developed and stabilised in the USA, all bred relatively true.

I can’t think of anyone in Europe who has done that ever. Instead they they used these varieties from the USA and made crosses between them or simple out crosses to land races.

C99 is a reasonably potent combination of sativa and indica genes. It may not suit everybody but nothing will, its an excellent variety. It won’t satisfy a sativa connoisseur, it wont satisfy the couch lock lover. It has slight inbreeding depression, crossed with another unrelated good variety it generally makes something very nice, often more potent than either parent.

I for one will never forget the work my friends Soul and Sly put into breeding this strain. Whatever money they made out of it, they will never be repaid enough for making a true breeding strain that anyone can replicate..

As a final point it becomes something else when flowered under a big halide, it never shows its true potential flowered under a sodium..
pd666
im flowering my c99 x hashplant under 400 w mh and 600w hps and it looks mint well sticky smoked wicked too an that was a tester

cant wait to sample the finished product roll on 2 weeks


edited to say ive not smoked any strain to date that makes me loose it or feel any kind of paranoia
Bish
nuff said OT wink.gif
lazlo woodbine
OT1
would I be correct in saying that my hps son-t-agro... should be replaced by an MH? ie: would the health of the plant and quality of the bud be (subjectively), better?

I would love to use both but my built in w'drobe measures 1.5m long .5 wide and about 5ft h'room. ..so I guess that would be out of the question?

Laz
The_Preacher
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would I be correct in saying that my hps son-t-agro... should be replaced by an MH?


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it never shows its true potential flowered under a sodium..


Clearer now?

VRG
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Clearer now?


Clear as a f*cking bell!! whistling.gif

You didn't even answer his question! 34.gif

Lazlo, your yield won't be quite as high, but by all accounts, your bud should be more potent, i've never flowered exclusively under a MH. The recommended combo for flowering MJ is 60% sodium to 40% MH, this is as close as you can get to equatorial sun light. So really you want a 600 HPS and a 400 MH in your room. Maybe a bit overkill!! But if you have decent extraction, you could proberbly get away with a 400 HPS and a 400 MH. If you already have either a 600 or 400 HPS, and think it might get a bit too warm with another MH in there, maybe buy two or three "blue" MG lights as supplements, these run considerably cooler. cool.gif

Hope this helps,

VRG
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