jointdoc
Apr 16 2004, 09:24 PM
any feedback taken for dutch passion feminised seeds im just startin so i thought it would be simple for my self to grow. ive just got a 2ft double flo light a propogator an some biobizz lite soil, im just gonna build a mother room jus now but will invest in a 250 watt light very soon any tips or suggestions or experiences growin feminised seeds would be helpfull
Vlad (the impala)
Apr 16 2004, 09:43 PM
unless you've already bought them - I really wouldn't! Feminised seeds unfortunately don't often do what they say on the tin - they usually cost twice as much as normal seeds, and give you an extra sex to distinguish - hermaphrodites! You'd be far better off getting some good seeds (like the FDM range in the site shop) for half the price, and just weeding out the males - its much easier and cheaper!
Dohped
Apr 16 2004, 10:00 PM
i am growing 1 fdm 50/50 at the minute, waiting till i get a heated propagator before i germ some more.
she is very beatiful and strong, and healthy.
FDM are the "gateway" seeds imo

i have germed 3 calif skunk and none have popped, go with the FDM, vlad knows his stuff!
jointdoc
Apr 16 2004, 10:47 PM
whoooooops already got em oh well ill just need to keep a close eye on em for any wee lady boys an jus chuk em ooot
Vlad (the impala)
Apr 16 2004, 11:08 PM
-from what I've heard, they're probably some of the more reliable ones going - its certainly from a respected seed company - having worried the wits out of you - the best of luck, I'm sure you'll do great - just get good at spotting ladyboys!
TOKIN TARQUIN
Apr 16 2004, 11:36 PM
sorry if this is a daft question but
is it just fem seeds that can turn hermi or do they just have a much higher chance of doing so
ie, without stress where as the normal seeds need stressing to hermi- sorry if im way off just trying to learn
TT
Vlad (the impala)
Apr 16 2004, 11:46 PM
no worries mate - as I understand it, feminised seeds are more likely to go hermie than ordinary ones, often because the seedsmen don't do the feminising properly, but any plant can go hermie - some are more prone than others (Power Plant for instance) - generally its either an inbuilt trait, or stress of some sort, like light leakage
TOKIN TARQUIN
Apr 16 2004, 11:59 PM
thanks again mate
TT
mindhunter
Apr 17 2004, 12:14 AM
I know a few people that have grown out fem seeds from dutch passion, 90% female rate..pfft.. havent tried myself yet, but so far so good

mindhunter
blacKdeath
Apr 17 2004, 12:15 AM
So if you grow a hermie plant are all the seeds from it hermie too?
BD
Mithrandir
Apr 17 2004, 06:55 AM
| QUOTE (blacKdeath @ Apr 17 2004, 01:15 AM) |
So if you grow a hermie plant are all the seeds from it hermie too?
BD |
There is a very good chance that the seeds will be unstable,so the slightest amount of stress will turn them hermi.
Mithrandir.
Sidewinder
Apr 17 2004, 08:57 AM
Well just to put your mind at rest i have seen a couple of Dutch Passion femminised strains grow and have never seen a male or a hermie from either.
And thats real growing expierience not hear say!!
The strains just for the record were Skunk#11 and Mazar.
monty
Apr 17 2004, 11:02 AM
I'm nearly finished growing 3 femmed DP Skunk 11's and no probs so far in terms of males/herms. However, the yield is looking exceptionally poor at this stage - might be lucky to get 3 oz from 3 plants. Will definitely grow femmed again though will choose a different strain.
Has anyone tried to grow FemaleSeeds.nl, who are boasting about high success rates and their prices are cheap compared to DP - £30-£40/10?
Mithrandir
Apr 17 2004, 05:25 PM
There are some nice Fem beans
here .
jointdoc
Apr 17 2004, 09:29 PM
ooops forgot to say they were skunk#11 thanks all 4 replying for 30 quid cant be to bad
Sidewinder
Apr 18 2004, 08:27 AM
| QUOTE (jointdoc @ Apr 17 2004, 09:29 PM) |
| ooops forgot to say they were skunk#11 thanks all 4 replying for 30 quid cant be to bad |
Make sure you have lots of headroom if they are Skunk#11 those babies stretch like buggery.
Serj
Apr 18 2004, 08:37 AM
I'm currently finishing off femmed WW's from DP.
I had 1 male and 1 herm out of 10.
I would defo buy DP seeds again but not necessarily femmed ones cos looking out for hermies causes me stress, nevermind my plants.
I believe you can employ some environmental factors to ensure females. Such as low temp high humidity, lower levels of N and slightly shorter day lengths during veg. Not sure if this is accurate as I've just recalled it from my poor memory.
Good luck with it Sidewinder, I'm sure they'll turn out sweet.
J
toks
Apr 18 2004, 10:13 AM
What happens when you feminised seed turn out hermaphrodites ,not one female
This has happed to me and the seedbank does not reply to my emails.My supplier
the same.Do we write this off .......not on your nelly. If you are stung spread the
news far and wide.You must keep the packet the seeds came in. What seeds you may ask Greenspirit.........Ta ever so ta ,Toks :(
chaten
Apr 24 2004, 11:30 PM
| QUOTE (blacKdeath @ Apr 17 2004, 01:15 AM) |
So if you grow a hermie plant are all the seeds from it hermie too?
BD |
Nope...the seeds from a hermie will be feminized.....!
I've read this somewhere - but can't remember where -sorry!
BushBandicoot
Apr 24 2004, 11:49 PM
I've grown feminised Dutch Passion;white widow, passion#1, blueberry, durban poison, hempstar, masterkush and maybe another one or two that I cant remember and only ever had one hermie out of the lot......... that one hermie however, ruined a crop.
RAZ
Apr 25 2004, 04:01 AM
I would have thought that fem seeds where a bloody waste of money..... Like you said you have to watch for hermies and what DO you get for your money, not alot I bet.
Can't understand why people buy fem seeds for daft £. When all you need to do is sex your plants in flower, or take cuttings to flower out.
EnigmaticOne
Apr 25 2004, 08:41 AM
| QUOTE |
Can't understand why people buy fem seeds for daft £. When all you need to do is sex your plants in flower, or take cuttings to flower out.
|
Couldn't agree with you more on this point Elzzar, half the fun of germing and growing them on is selecting the best females from them.....
Having said that I have followed a couple of grows where the proportion of males have been so high they are a nightmare
EO
Red Dragon
Apr 25 2004, 09:33 AM
Mornin' all;
IMO, Dutch Passion create one of the more stable feminised seeds. That said, there are still no guarantees.
| QUOTE |
| FDM are the "gateway" seeds imo |
Not just gateway seeds Dohped....they have been bred with care & knowledge, making for a more reliable seed. Too many people are currently growing FDM strains for this to be coincidence! Quality!
| QUOTE |
So if you grow a hermie plant are all the seeds from it hermie too?
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Yeah, they are. But there is more to it than that!
| QUOTE |
There is a very good chance that the seeds will be unstable,so the slightest amount of stress will turn them hermi.
|
Again this is down to the seed breeder. It should take months and months of back-crossing to create true "feminised" seeds, and not just the off-spring of a hermi plant!!
Each time you germ a "feminised" seed, there is a percentage of female genes, and a percentage of male, (hermi) genes, (for instance; Nirvana were known for creating some terrible "feminised" seeds, with extremely high hermi ratios).
The seed breeders that have a good reputation for feminised seeds will have taken the time to find a line which gives a high ratio of females over hermi genetics.
There is quite an interesting article in the latest issue of soft secrets if you want to know more. I'll quote the important bit here;
Soft Secrets Issue 2 - 2004
Hermaphrodites are double sexed plants, having both male and female characteristics. Within this sort we have various types. Some hermaphrodites are 90% male and 10% female, others are 90% female and 10% male, or 50/50 male/female.
In the case of those that are 90% female hermaphrodites, we can still just remove the males and in this way, still develop harvestable, unfertilised - and therefore seedless - buds! The pollen these hermaphrodites produce will for the most part, produce female seeds!
End!
So as you can see, there is no guarantee of an entirely female crop, even if you use feminised seeds with the very best reputation, (a nightmare for NFT growers)!
My choice, (for what it's worth) would be to spend the money on some top quality standard genetics, germ them all and sort the females from the males. Then, grow the females on until sexual maturity and take cuttings, (this can result in (upto) 50 new, nailed-to-the-wall females from a pack of seeds costing around £30.
You can then grow that variety out for a year or more, using the cuttings you created from the original seeds.
I was lucky enough recently to acquire 2 C99 and 2 DP Sk#1 cutz.
I grew them on until they were big enough to give me cuttings. Then I took around 40 cuttings (20 of each) and thats my year sorted out. An added advantage of this is that you have already smoked the end product, therefore you already know what the plant is going to "give you" back for all of the time and trouble you take to care for them when growing.
We also grew some Nirvana Silver Pearl from seed, weeded out the males, (4 from 6), and grew 2 females, (harvested last week)! We also have 6 cuttings waiting in the wings, and after smoking the Silver Pearl for a few days, (made some fab polm too), we are keen to get the silver pearls under the HPS again, as we liked very muchly the effect we got from them.
Of course this all takes time to set up, (it's taken me over 9 months to get to the stage I'm at)!
Having said that, if you buy "ropey" feminised genetics and it all goes pear shaped, you could waste 4 months just trying to get to the stage of creating good reliable mums.
Sorry for the "monster" post, but this "feminised" thing really interests me!
Peace.
RD
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