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It was the first strainbase, it is at least 3 years out of date.
IN REPLY TO OT
How come the administrators can give criticism but can't take it? Am I being personal now or just making a point? I thought what he said was immature, am I not allowed to say that?
I never wanted any seeds myself just trying to show people that even though they face a lot of negative comments on this site, some people including myself rate them highly. Not everyone is a Cannabis snob and some of Nirvana's strains in my opinion are good value and I have seen produced better results than seeds many times the price. maybe it's luck in the batch you get?
I was also making the point that the strainguide on OG is the best on the net and anyone buying seeds should check it out IMHO.
Peace
TC
How come the administrators can give criticism but can't take it? Am I being personal now or just making a point? I thought what he said was immature, am I not allowed to say that?
I never wanted any seeds myself just trying to show people that even though they face a lot of negative comments on this site, some people including myself rate them highly. Not everyone is a Cannabis snob and some of Nirvana's strains in my opinion are good value and I have seen produced better results than seeds many times the price. maybe it's luck in the batch you get?
I was also making the point that the strainguide on OG is the best on the net and anyone buying seeds should check it out IMHO.
Peace
TC
I've just harvested some white rhino from Nirvana and I have to say I am quite impressed, got 3.5oz from two ladies, they are curing at the moment but a little pre taste get the thumbs up from me, will not be growing them again though as I only got 2 females from 6 plants that germinated out of 10 seeds.
Just my thoughts.
Just my thoughts.
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| Sorry no offence meant to anyone but the strainguide here on UK420 seems to be basically repeating information from the seedbanks catalogue - |
Ok, here is the opinion of someone growing a Nirvana strain at the moment, (well not me, but you know what I mean)!
The seed catalogues write up their sales bumf, in the hope that it will convince people looking for seeds, to buy their particular brand.
Every single "seed-vendors" website quotes these notes when selling seeds. Thats how all the seed banks end up with the same sales notes.
But then, you get members of uk420/overgrow etc, seeking advice from other members, (their peers) on what are good strains/genetics to grow! This advice is either acted upon, or not.
If you want Nirvana genetics specifically, then I'm sure Joolz will get them for you. Simple as..
But what people are saying to you is that their are other genetics, at comparable prices, which if bought, will offer a better result than the Nirvana seeds will.
For instance..out of 6 seeds we germed, (3 silver pearl and 3 northern lightxbig bud), we ended up with only 2 silver pearl females. Luck of the draw? Maybe!
But the 2 silver pearl that we ended up with could be 2 entirely different strains as they look totally different, and have finished over a week apart!
If you buy F1 strains then you should expect them to be at least similar in stature and finishing time, (yes F1's cost a little more, but if you have space issues in your grow room, then the guarantee of a short, stocky plant is worth paying for, as a 5 foot monster is going to be more trouble than its worth).
There are plusses and minusses to buying anything from anywhere. If I got over 4000 members generally advising me to buy this strain over another, more often than not I listen, and try it out.
Not everyone is buying seeds with a view to get them finished as quickly as possible, with little or no thought to the end product. There are a lot of "specialist" growers here, as well as on overgrow, who grow different strains and then cross them, with a view to creating that special "something"!
I have been lucky enough to try one or two of these "end products" and I have to say that nothing you can buy "off the shelf" is going to give those sorts of results, and this is the reason (or one of them) that people "poo-poo" Nirvana, (you have no guarantee of the "background" to a strain; that and the fact that pretty much the entire Nirvana catalogue has been crossed with Skunk at some stage in the past)!
Ultimately the decision is yours.
But either way, you are very welcome here at UK420, and I wish you the very best of luck, what ever you decide to grow!
Peace!
RD
iv just started growing and i got all nivana seeds and was given some G.nivana C.99
the C.99 did not come up it went all moldy (could have bin my fult ) but i think it was nivana's then i got some nivana papaya and it is going strone i like this plant but only got one,, and it got me thinking nivan was ok agane,, so i went and got some more seeds off them (ak 48) i have put all them down and only one has come up and all the rest are dead,, one out of ten that sucks so all in 2 out of 30 that is shit so my thought on nivan is stay the fuck away from them on less you are as thick as me and have to get stroked 3 times before it kicks in nivan is shit..!!!!!!!
my nivana papaya
the C.99 did not come up it went all moldy (could have bin my fult ) but i think it was nivana's then i got some nivana papaya and it is going strone i like this plant but only got one,, and it got me thinking nivan was ok agane,, so i went and got some more seeds off them (ak 48) i have put all them down and only one has come up and all the rest are dead,, one out of ten that sucks so all in 2 out of 30 that is shit so my thought on nivan is stay the fuck away from them on less you are as thick as me and have to get stroked 3 times before it kicks in nivan is shit..!!!!!!!
my nivana papaya
TC I have no problem with people discussing or debating all I asked was that it was kept civel, I did not warn you or put you on the moderators pots list..
U is an older guy, he has given beans to members here, at OG, CW, HN, is respected all over, the results have been pretty positive. He was talking from a point someone who has grown a wide variety genetics from all over the world including Dutch varieties. So saying The comment ‘If you think ‘a’ is good wait till you try ‘b’’ comes from someone of great experance who has been around from before og or cw were even thought of.
To dismiss his positive encoraging remark to you, by suggesting he is a mental retard is not right and you sure would not do it to his face.
The same with the history he gave, he was giving good and accurate history.
Your answer was what the fuck does that proove. Now that is a really good way of answering someone who gave some accurate facts don’t you think. Whether you thought they were relevent is besides the point others in the thread might do and your responce again was not aceptable.
Neither myself or anyone else in this thread has treated you in this way I'm sure people have always done their best to help you here not abuse you. Please read the posting guidlines!
U is an older guy, he has given beans to members here, at OG, CW, HN, is respected all over, the results have been pretty positive. He was talking from a point someone who has grown a wide variety genetics from all over the world including Dutch varieties. So saying The comment ‘If you think ‘a’ is good wait till you try ‘b’’ comes from someone of great experance who has been around from before og or cw were even thought of.
To dismiss his positive encoraging remark to you, by suggesting he is a mental retard is not right and you sure would not do it to his face.
The same with the history he gave, he was giving good and accurate history.
Your answer was what the fuck does that proove. Now that is a really good way of answering someone who gave some accurate facts don’t you think. Whether you thought they were relevent is besides the point others in the thread might do and your responce again was not aceptable.
Neither myself or anyone else in this thread has treated you in this way I'm sure people have always done their best to help you here not abuse you. Please read the posting guidlines!
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| iv just started growing and i got all nivana seeds and was given some G.nivana C.99 |
GN C99????
I think you'll find C99 is an FDM strain mate!
I got it "on the go" right now and it's a pleasure to grow!
Also just to reitterate...Nirvana & Gypsy Nirvana, (although linked) are in fact two different companies.
Is it just me or is GN being mentioned A LOT in this thread!
Red C99 was a strain made by a couple of breeder friends of mine called Mr Soul and Sly, they had a boutique outlet called the brothers grimm. C99 had been backcrossed [cubed] untill it was pretty true breeding. There are several seedmakers sellin copies now. Baud is one of them, but he is the only one I know has Souls blessing or stock direct.
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Is it just me or is GN being mentioned A LOT in this thread! |
For good reason mate!
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| And gypsy is connected to nirvana seeds, He is married to Mau's (Nirvana seedbank proprietor) daughter. |
VRG
IN REPLY TO OT-
I personally think that when U said "If you think White Rhino is THE BOMB try cannabis" he meant -
White Rhino is so bad it doesn't class for cannabis or
If you think White Rhino is the bomb then you don't much about cannabis
When seen in that context I think that it was fair for me to judge that comment to be childish because White Rhino -
A) Is cannabis
I enjoyed smoking it and thought it was one of the strongest I've smoked. Doesn't mean I don't know the differance between good and bad.
I definately didn't take his remark as being positive.
The history he gave dosen't prove that Nirvana's seeds are bad, it just shows he know's his history.
I REALLY don't want to carry on talking about this because it has esculated so much the original point was lost. We will have to agree to disagree. Maybe my delivery wasn't great but my point is valid.
PEACE
TC
I personally think that when U said "If you think White Rhino is THE BOMB try cannabis" he meant -
White Rhino is so bad it doesn't class for cannabis or
If you think White Rhino is the bomb then you don't much about cannabis
When seen in that context I think that it was fair for me to judge that comment to be childish because White Rhino -
A) Is cannabis
I enjoyed smoking it and thought it was one of the strongest I've smoked. Doesn't mean I don't know the differance between good and bad.I definately didn't take his remark as being positive.
The history he gave dosen't prove that Nirvana's seeds are bad, it just shows he know's his history.
I REALLY don't want to carry on talking about this because it has esculated so much the original point was lost. We will have to agree to disagree. Maybe my delivery wasn't great but my point is valid.
PEACE
TC
| QUOTE (justanotherstoner @ Apr 19 2004, 02:49 PM) |
| less you are as thick as me and have to get stroked 3 times before it kicks in nivan is shit..!!!!!!! |
It doesnt make you thick mate
You can read it all over the net from either people who don't know any better or the resellers who are selling them, "Nirvana, ace beans for newbies"
Sure, the price is great
Problem is, your two beans out of 30 is about par for the course
I know more than a few newbie growers who gave up after a couple of grow attempts because the beans they were trying to grow, failed to live up to the hype.
They put the bad results down to their own incompetance and lack of ability.
I think that is sad when you consider just how easy good cannabis is to grow
I have grown Nirvana NL5xHaze.
10 from 10 germinated,
4 boys
3 girls
3 hermies
2 seeded grows !
They were all different sizes,with different amounts of stretch.
Mithrandir.
Ed to add- I'm not 100% sure here,but i do seem to remember ordering from Nirvana but when i asked who to make the postal order payable to, was told Gypsy Nirvana
10 from 10 germinated,
4 boys
3 girls
3 hermies
2 seeded grows !
They were all different sizes,with different amounts of stretch.
Mithrandir.
Ed to add- I'm not 100% sure here,but i do seem to remember ordering from Nirvana but when i asked who to make the postal order payable to, was told Gypsy Nirvana
Hi,
I started with Nirvana seeds as well. I bought them before finding this site and reading about the various merits of different seedbanks etc.
My firts grow was 4xWW and 6xNL. Of the ten planted 2 did nothing, 2 were runts and 4 were boys. It could have been my ham-fistedness, but I am new to growing weed not growing plants from seed in general.
The two remaining girls were both WW and pretty uniform in height, structure etc. The yield wasn't massive, but that was more due to me miscalculating the number of weeks of veg required to get 'em chopped for Xmas.
The smoke was fine, I have since sampled the bio WW in Greenhouse Centrum and the effect and taste/harshness was pretty much the same as far as I could tell
I think the Nirvana seeds were ok for a first grow, the smoke was better than most of the bag weed I have had. I could see that such a low 'success' rate (2 girls out of ten) could be very disheartening to other new growers.
For my second (and subsequent) grows I have chosen FDM, partly to support the site and partly to see whether they matched up to their reputation. I still wouldn't pay more than £30 for ten seeds unless it was a particular strain that I had tried and just had to have.
I started with Nirvana seeds as well. I bought them before finding this site and reading about the various merits of different seedbanks etc.
My firts grow was 4xWW and 6xNL. Of the ten planted 2 did nothing, 2 were runts and 4 were boys. It could have been my ham-fistedness, but I am new to growing weed not growing plants from seed in general.
The two remaining girls were both WW and pretty uniform in height, structure etc. The yield wasn't massive, but that was more due to me miscalculating the number of weeks of veg required to get 'em chopped for Xmas.
The smoke was fine, I have since sampled the bio WW in Greenhouse Centrum and the effect and taste/harshness was pretty much the same as far as I could tell
I think the Nirvana seeds were ok for a first grow, the smoke was better than most of the bag weed I have had. I could see that such a low 'success' rate (2 girls out of ten) could be very disheartening to other new growers.
For my second (and subsequent) grows I have chosen FDM, partly to support the site and partly to see whether they matched up to their reputation. I still wouldn't pay more than £30 for ten seeds unless it was a particular strain that I had tried and just had to have.
My third (1st bagseed, 2nd was High Quality Seeds with 0% gemriantion -- not from my behalf) brand wa nirvana (mostly because was very broke back then, and got VERY lucky: had 1 smallish squat male but 2 beautiful perfect females out of a total of 6 germs (forst and cold killed off the others). The only problem was is that my m8 let the male pollinate the other while i was gone so =/. It still smoke better than any schwag weed. But agree best stick with decent beans I mean think of it this way : sure there are cheaper brands but can you be arsed to invest 3-4 months of your time and money (nuts, soil, etc) for avg puff just so you could save a few bucks at the beggining?
Detoxed
Detoxed
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