hi all,been using vitalink earth bloom and grow with my crop for a few weeks now,i'm currently in week 3 of flowering and following the recommended schedule.i'm growing 2x white widow from seedsman,1 x nycd from soma and 1 x el nino from greenhouse in biobizz light mix with a 1ml per 10l dose of vitalink bioplus all the way through,under 400w hps.roots are good ,foliage is good, so why am i after some advice.Well i used to use biobizz bloom and grow in the past and i always used old timers schedule,which was not the recommended but always worked,what with the odd dose of epsom and that.i was wondering if anybody else had a tried and tested schedule differant to the recommended one.i am definatley seeing little leaf tip damage and thought does the vitalink need the epsom as well.the reason ichanged is that i was away a lot and decided that a dripper system with digital timer was the way foreward,i was recommended vitalink earth for this method with soil and hoped for some experienced knowledge of the stuff,cheers

I've moved this as the vitalink earth fertilisers are full on chemical fertilisers.

I don't know of anyone useing them, the only thing you can do is to follow their recommendations of ec levels as per their pdf nutrient chart available on their site. They say their fertiliser has all macro and micros needed, the only way to find out if this is true is to suck it and see what it does and tell us if any deficiencies show up.

nice one ot,looks like i'm the fookin guinea pig eh,alls good anyway just pondering over wether i should get rid of the el nino,read some really bad reports,its in week 3 of flowering but i could use the space it would create,anyone had any good dealings with el nino

alrite keith mate! hows your grow? enjoyin your time of work?

iv got the same nutes as you and i used epsoms at week three of flower,

they were mg deficient.


1 level desert to a heaped tablespoon per 5 litres of water.

Dissolve the epsom salts in some hot water first to make sure it has all dissolved properly.


it worked well but now im in week 5-6 im seeing signs again so am thinking of giving them another dose!

dk

ha haaaaaaaaaaa dark night,we meet again...................i am enjoying my time off work,are you back on the dark side or are you still at home.
any way checked the bottle for the npk levels.....grow was 4 for the nitrogen and 2 was the bloom so i have upped the dose to 4ml per litre for a while to see if it produced the goods,to my dissapointment when i came home today it had got a bit worse.......its only one or two leaves mind,here are some pics
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im still around! on standby for few weeks! just been buying up new toys for my new grow room which is going to be top of the range, three lights 2 600 hps and 1 600 mh with jupiter 2 light rail kit/mover with 36 15L buckets! the bigger the better!!!! ha ha

got a load of that big pot saucers for 1.70 each compared to 2.80 at local shop

gona stick to 1 strain this time for uniformity and easier for diagnosing problems

some of my lower leaves were the same on sum of the blues but trimmed them off and gave epsoms, now having slight yellowing of older leaves, but nothing 2 serious, and a bit of heat stress on the middle few plants (light a little to close) i thought maybe add a bit of grow maybe 1m per L, but decided against it. have had another go with the epsoms, over all quite healthy!

iv only got 2-3 weeks to go so am jst gona let them be and continue with 3ml maybe even drop to 2ml bloom for next 2 weeks then flush for a week!

just out of interest what has the ph been like in the water but at 3ml?

dk

checked this morning and the soloution in the bowser pre water was 6.5 and after wateri ng it was fookin 5.5,is yours the same,i'm using rainwater with 3ml of bloom and 1ml/l of bioplus.fattnin up nice now,the white widow is looking particularly good,as is the nycd,wont be ready for a while yet, you keep me posted of your grow though

hi keith,

iv gone down to 2ml per ltr of bloom now, my ph mixed is sitting at 6.8, dosent seem to bad, am having a little trouble with heat spots with the diamond reflector, have moved it up a few more inches,

my blues are starting to brown up nicely, the morning glorys are a bit behind but are starting to pack on a bit more weight now (was getting worried) the blues take between 60-70 days and the MG,S 70-80 days,so im hoping they all come ready for the 18th as thats when im planning heading off to the right side of the border! ha ha!

im gona go back to bio bizz allmix next time, theres def a difference in yeald, shouldnt have been so cheap in the first place buying budget soil!! ha ha.

just putting togeter my new and improved grow room before i head back! 36 15L pots its gona be like a jungle in there!!!

take it easy and happy growing!!!

Old leaves get tired and die, pull them off and place them into a bin Job done.

I pull them WELL before they start to degrade and rot, I don't want those nasty old dead leaves pumping out mould and death into my buds.

cheers guys,dark knight (god this is stupid),i would try the light mix next time,for one you can bang your cuttings straight in it,and two you have more control/idea whats going in to your final potted plants,ie you start feeding straight away and your straight onto your schedule,no waiting for defs or false nute defs.light mix all the way through,and its cheaper.one thing though,i will only be using vitalink when i'm not there.if given the choice i would use fish mix and bloom from biobizz and bioplus al the way through,keep it organic man

iv been looking at new nutes, was really considering bioseiva fully organic hydro nutrient for soil, everything was looking good until i stumbled apon a comparison grow by ot1 using bio bizz, bioseiva and another i cant remember right now......

the bio bizz and bioseiva gave nearly the same yield (bioseiva just 5% less) and the other 40% less, i was sold after reading that until in the last sentance he said that it had some fine sediment and it had blocked the rose on his watering can, no good for my dripper system,

im moving to canna terra flores and pk 13/14 and there root stimulator rhizotonic, dont think i can go organic while im drip feeding! shame but looking forward to trying canna heard good stuff...

think i prefer not having to feed during veg so will pay bit extra for the allmix and just use bloom 1-2 week into flower, will buy 1 bag of lite for cuts!

im after three mini gro star reflectors for next gro feck it, will b worth the investment in the long run! want to buy a diamond? ha ha...

bin having a few problems with this grow with vita link so thought id share....

thought id been having more trouble with magnesium (mg) deficiency after first dose at 3 weeks into flower... turns out it was (n) difficiency at about week 5, i gave them more epsoms before i reallised..... have found a good simple guide to nutrient deficiency on the web that has helped me,

what iv got now is maganese difficiency in the morning glorys from over doing it with the epsom salts... the signs of this is necrotic spots on upper leaves... remedy is foliar spray with maganese (mn) additive.. i dont want to foliar feed at this stage in flower so just flushing them with water... you dont need to worry about this just sharing...

but would suggest adding some grow to the mix of bloom nutes around week five... mayb week 4 for prevention as there is a need for more nitrogen (n) i havent seen any results from this yet but says it will take about a week for them to recover from the yellowing, i have pale yellowing leaves with red stems in a uniform pattern over the plants that has worked up from the bottom!

like you said before think there is not enough (n) in the bloom nutes alone...

hows the grow going anyway?



dk

read on here that if you mix bat shite into the soil when doin yer last repott then it will sustain the first few weeks of nitrogen intake,that would tie in with you workin away and remove the need for gloopy organic feeds that will gunk yer pipes up dude

and if you use all mix then you only need to fork a bit into the top soil round about week three