I got some Neem oil for thrips but looking its hard to mix with water,so what from a household can i use to help me soften watter..hand soap,some exeact ph off soap or dish washing liquid ?

Do i need to fulsh it afther? I got plants on 24/7 light becaue off cold ,so i get it down on 18/6 and spray before dark? Can a hand trigered pump/gun be used or i need preasure pump?

Thanks

i ~Believe it has/or best to be un perfumed natural kinda shit..

and im sure its just an oil aint it,..so spray gun should be cool.

If you don't have a purpose made wetting agent like yucca extract then maybe some kind of ecological soap like Ecover might do in a pinch but I'd go very easy on it Herbal

Forgive my ignorance..... but why would you need a wetting agent? Is this disease/fungal/temp related?

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its hard to mix oli and water,as oil wil float on surface./no probs. dr G.
as for fungal thats my other concern,i have to kill thrips but have fungus from thrips,and am about to get my lants whole wet with oil/watr mixture over night so i might even hekp fungus to spread even more.

bizzaro/ok ill alpply it with gun

Felix my friend,languege barier i need a few min to answer with counter quesion.

I know, I know old friend. It always shames me that I have barely mastered English, let alone speaking another one as well . Take as much time as you need, I'm in no hurry

Herbal , it breaks the surface tension of water and allows it to cling/stick/stay on the plants easier instead
of running, dripping , sliding off like water does on a duck's back

Good luck

Herbal, if you sprayed ducks with a wetting agent they would get all soggy (don't try it)
and fall out of the sky due to being waterlogged like a wet sponge

Just found this for anyone that is interested in how Neem works

Ok no Yucca i needed some time to look for it, but found an store that keeps Ecover personal hygiene products,so i go look for hand soap? Does it need to be liquid or normal? I want to try kill trips asap

Great read Felix thanks,it says basicly i can apply it with usuall watering of plants ,

Oh and found a quote down in link under text

You have to add an emulsifier. (An emulsifier is any substance that makes oil and water mix, e.g. soap, detergent, shampoo.)/i dont quite get this detergent ?

Read more: hxxp://www.discoverneem.com/neem-oil-spray.html#ixzz0VivHVpNP

So am better to use spunge? And like dishwash them from bottom up?

Hi Herbal,

I'd go for a liquid soap, if you can speak to a shop assistant ask them for one that is hypoallergenic and can be used by folk with allergies. That should at least ensure it doesn't have too many extra chemicals in there, according to their website their products are all made from plant based ingredients so that's a good start. Make sure you spray a few test leaves first and observe, just in case the soap isn't suitable.

Good luck my friend

Ok Felix ill go in morning ,say i am alergic and need purest liquid soap they have

here ya tomorow with resoults!

Thanks bro.

Castile soap it´s a neutral and organic soap that works very well as weting agent.
I use it in my home made garlic fungidice and works wonders.

Peace

Google for "liquid castile soap" with should show you a couple of buying options
If by any chance you have trouble finding a reseller sent me a PM and i will gladly sent you a couple of sites.

Thank you for that mate,we live in two different worlds no castile soap here .Greens dont deliver here so that can give you a view on where i am,however i found a reseller off Ecover so hope i find something liquid and organic there tomorow

thanks

I use dish soap as a wetting agent, never had a problem

what type? How cum cemicals in it dont burn the plant,or block the pores?

Nice one Herbal,

Let us know how you get on

Hi Herbal.
I hope you get your soap allready but if not and if you can use Ebay theres plenty of castile sopa resellers and i think that they ship worldwide

Stay Strong & Green
Peace

Am back looking for all shops and this is best i could find,i think there was an other brand some No Parfume but i go with Ecover ,they told me no cemicals and its natural.... Ecover Hand Soap/Lavander and Aloe Vera

This is back side with ingredients,naturally my camera cant focus it...so ill just type it ,

Ingredients/

Aqua,Sodium Lauryul Sulfate,Coco Glucoside,Sodium Chloride,Lauryul Glucoside,Aloe Barbadensis Gel,Sodium Lauryul Sarcosintate,Parfum,Glycol Disteareate,Glycerin,Citric Acid,Potassium Sorbate,Sodium Benzoate,Linalool,Limonene,Citronellol,2 bromo 2 nitropropane 1.3 diol.

I was told that everything in shop is natural and bio detiriable ..lalalala i cant translate all that

It has some strange smell /but if plants survive treatment what other growers use dish wash etc. i think this should do it too

Mothers done spraying hour ago ...

Equipment/and ready solution.Dripper and half/on pic down/ off Oil on 1.75L off warm water,first one drip off liquid soap but after shaking oil was still visible on surface so i added one more drip off soap.Shaked again for few min ,left it settle a bit and oil dissapierd

Next scene mate that came over to help takes soultion and smells it, bad move folowed by extremly funny sound off starting to vomit more like an instant stomach reaction,but he managed to control it and no vomiting on the end just 5 min.off bursting in laugh

Left to settle for another 15min and started treatment...still warm solution

.oldtimes before treatment /during treatment

.drowned, even spraying surface off compost/over leafs under leafs ,steems /everything

.3 Sb mothers and 4 Ot drowned and left an oily floor /ow to avoid that next time,did i over do it?

.left in bathroom for 4 hour dark to dry ,will ger them back in room in 3 hours before going to sleep..

.so 7 plants were treated/ that stuff smell s bad . Rest will wait just in case this ones dont like my solution/

Thanks all that helped to make my way trough Neem use on uk420,and my mate for taking pics and me laugh during treatment,o yea and some spraying

found one more bigger pic. off ready solution /no oil floating

Cant aford a car ,get half off it

hxxp://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=Crazy_Serbian_drives_half_car.flv

Good luck Herbal

Looks like you sprayed those ladies good and proper.

i drowned them Felix for next go am thinking off putting 15L off solution in bathtub and just dip them inside,you now like sacramenting them,what ya think?

just woke up off to check them now Do i need to flush them after sprain with neem? afther how long do i apply second bath/spraying ,next day or in 3 days?

ok just checked them,here is few pics 14hours after spraying and watering../oh yea its close to hps so some shots may be a bit to flashed

.oldtimes

.bigger pic.OT

.ot

.Ot, so what ya think am i god to spray rest off them?

Nice plants Herbal

I'd give it a few days before spraying the rest man, just to make sure there's no leaf burning or anything from the Ecover. Say 2 or three days

As for bathing them, don't see a problem with that man but would have though you use a lot less just spraying them. I wouldn't bother flushing them as you need the neem oil on the surface of the leaves and stems so that the thrips will consume some next time they feed . As for respraying maybe every 5 days until you've gotten rid of the thrips, as a side note it can take up to 7 days for thrips to die after being sprayed with neem oil

Hope that helps,
Felix.

Ok mate ill wait ,better to wait than heck up these beauties , close to flower so i would like to fix them soon as possible/growers inpatience you now

So next 3 days nothing,not even on these ones i did already? Il repeat it then in 3 days...

oK ill keep them spraying ,baths off then and no flushing.

Rest off plants avaits for ecover testing resoults from Oldtimes before first spraying,ill watch them thrips die with pleasure

Thanks Felix

I don't believe it's a quick death it that helps at all Herbal

even better ,suffer you bastards

Hola mates its been few days so today i made a solution..2 x 1.75L off water 8ml off oil and shite load off soap to soften the water. 3 hours off mixing and adding soap passed before solution was ok to use

So i drowned them all ,some were a bit hanged after ,because water weigth on their leafs ,you can see pictures after spraying here and befor in my UGORG diary/in an hour

so heres afther

..as you can see i did it it tent/floor wet and muddy,i think if there is some bugs on floor let them drink some juice

..freshly oiled ,gave them 4 hours off dark after to dry/soke a juice a bit/light goes up again in midnight

..thats it next round in 3 days if all ok. Oldtimes looked ok after 3 days so i drowned them all....

this one didnt like spraying,she turned her head and some smaller growshots

Probably just shy. Some girls don't like being watched taking a shower

i even pictured her

So here they are 24hours after first big wash,they didnt take it bad/only thing that worries me a bit i watered them well tomorow will be 7 days , after potting up from 3L to 6.5L:unsure: and they still look fine ,temps are from 22c to 25c all week ,7 days

..got to love 450K upload size ,makes life easier

Killer skunk left , Smelberry right

..middle picture SB above ,rest 2 KS