Hi guys, not too sure if i can post an ikea link so let me know and i will get rid.

Anyway, i want to covert this into a stealth box, take the back off make a working door then glue the front drawers on

Was thinking split veg room and flower room or maybe just flower, with decent ruck extraction etc etc etc.

What bulb u peeps think is best a 400? a 600?

Also any tips or criticisms are welcome.

Forgot blood link didnt i.

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/80053933

Theres not a lot of height in that mate, may want to go with sumthing that has more headroom

Agreed. However others have made cabinets like that work. Cannabis does loves to stretch and grow tall generally. I would be very hesitant about putting a 400W lamp in there!

For that price you may aswell buy a tent or build a box

Good point.

Needs to be super stealth tho and i cant relaly do a tent or tall cab. i would probs scrog and mayb try n save up for a cooltube

As a fellow ikea grower I can see the appeal of a ready-made box, but you can get wardrobes/cabinets for less, and I'd definitely look for something taller. There's a few wardrobes in their range around the 75-100 quid mark that are eminently suitable for a small 400w grow. But I don't understand the stealth aspect of having drawers that don't open and a door in the back. It's not like it would put off a nosey parker (or plod) is it? 'Oh the drawers don't open, nothing untowards here'.

e2a if you must keep the height down to that sort of level I think you might be better off going 250w.

Growing at home with your parents? Or do you have house mates? In either case, it is ill advised to be growing in a situation where security is not well assured.

Just family that visit, so nobody is likely to start tugging on drawers. Its stealth cos when i need to deal with it i spin it around and take the back off.
I am an excellent box builder but i want something which fits in with my furniture as well as the slot i have for it which is a sloping ceiling hence the height.

So obviously a tent isnt an option, "wats that humming tent son?"

Also in the room i want to put it in, i have nowhere to put a tall cab, just this sloping ceiling : /

Well boys seems he wants the overpriced swedish furniture.

Just playing mate if you think its best for the space and situ then you know best, with that height you wouldn't get a 400 in I don't think think you'd need to go with a 250w, maybe a cooltube, but I've seen a regular 250w run in less space fine. and you could maybe get 2 250's in that space, 2 cooltubes would fit.

You'll definatly need to SCROG or do some form of training with them to keep them low.

I'd probably put a veg space in as well, its pretty long you should have plenty of room

E2a. What are you thinking for intake and extraction?

Not exactly cheap at that price...

Its not cheap no, but it is nice n thick good for sound, and doesnt look too bad compared to a DIY box which wouldnt really look any good in my nice snazy recently refurbished flat.

I was thinking a 5'' fan with a variac, intake either passive or a couple of pc fans or something.

Im suprised I cant get a 600 in there, considering people have said to stick a 250w HPS in my already built current grow box, which has perfect temps with 2 x 125 CFL

How about one of these>>>

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/50103345

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/10103347

Kiki I assume you want everything to fit in nice and stealthy, if money is not an issue I would buy the 6 drawer and the 4 drawer. On there own you dont have space to fit everything inside, if you look at I believe nearly every micro grow they use pc fans not rucks and homemade carbon filters, I think you will struggle extracting the heat from HPS fans with PC fan + Homemade CF combo. I would join the 2 together and use the 6 drawer as a flowering chamber, I would get a 250/400W aircooled hood , I would buy a 90 degree bend and have that pointing down and have the ducting feeding into the top half of the 4 drawer , if there was space you could fit a little CFL area in the bottom of the 4 drawer.

Ok, taking that into account. Would it be a better idea to stick with CFLs for heat/size issues?

I personally would stick to HPS , CFL bulbs (125 or 250W) are roughly the same size as HPS but the ballasts are in the grow room where as a HPS you can keep the ballasts seperate which will help with keeping temps down. When I moved my ballasts from within my room my temps dropped 3 degree's so it definetly helps keeping temps down.

So what you are saying is HPS emits less heat than a CFL if ballast is kept outside????

No mate, a HPS without the ballast in the room is still hotter than a CFL.

Just what i thought, thanks for clearing that up.
I have given the box some thought and think i might go CFL as space is an issue and this chest is the best fit. Wish me luck

I'll stick my hands up too! I'm an ikea grower

I used two of these tables as a veg box for a while (with a 200w cfl) - i think i'll use them again....soon!

Thats quite different, what did you just cover the sides with ply?

Those plants look lush n healthy, quite the opposite of mine!

how exactly are you planning to use the space? looking at that cabinet i'd use half for flowering with a 250 hps (plants would need training) and the other side to stealth the fan/filter and a little grow space. a 250w of hps with the ballast/s in the filter section won't create more heat than 2 x 125w enviros

I was thinking pretty much along those lines sky

Here are some rough sketches i had of ideas, most of them use a section at the top for venting system which i think i will be changing up so that the box is in 2;

flower and veg

with the venting system above the veg side perhaps.

Sketches/ideas are welcome


Round things are fans and arrows are like air path/venting

maybe something like this

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few cfl's in grow side for clones etc and pc fan extraction. ruck and filter pulling out of the main

I stacked the sideways with the light hanging from between the legs for the first two weeks, as the plant got bigger i turned one upside down and placed the other the correct way up - standing on the upturned legs of the other - i got a roll of mylar from an auction site and taped it on, rolling the sides up and down for access, temp control, ect.

This was until the plants were about a month old then i built a wooden frame to scrog them in. If i was doing what you are - the size they were before the frame would be ideal for going into flower in a drobe.

I wasnt doing a drobe grow obviously so they were scrogged until finished.

E2a:I had a bunch of photos in my diary but either i wiped them myself or they got wiped during a forum glitch ages ago.

Would i not need a filter for the clone/veg room extraction?

Or is that based on the strain and how old clones are?

Sky are you basing that little sketch on a hps in the flower room?

Thanks for all the input so far chaps, u understand when your building a home for your babies it has to be perfect

personally ive never noticed any smell from clones or small plants , i think it only gets a problem when temps are high and the box starts to cook but it would be worth having a layer or two of cooker hood filter fixed using a cheap/home made photo frame like on my box.

main flower section deffo go hps up to you what wattage but for my box and how my plant is trained im trying a 250 next grow pulling out with a rvk 4inch. i know overall box temps will be perfect but i might be on the limit due to radiated heat if it turns out i havent got the height and buds are burning then i'll go for 2x150 or 4x70 to keep the power up but spread it a bit better.

Spoke to guy in my local 'shop', he suggested that this size box would not at all be recommended with a HPS, at very best he said I should stick 4x 125w CFL in there.

With a cool tube surely heat would not be an issue, no????

He also mentioned LED, but they are pricey and I think yield would be better from CFL.

What you guys think?!?!?

ignore him , if he recommended led's .........

500w of cfl produce a lot of heat (not saying it won't take it) . only problem with hps is the radiated heat stopping you getting it close to plants but if you use a couple of smaller ones you'll be fine and get good light spread.

I have that set of ikea draws in my bedroom should be kool to see how this one ends up, hope it all goes well!

CFL is the way to go in a box that size if you ask me.

Yes CFL's also get hot but the difference is you can run plants inches away from CFL's.... can't do that with HPS.

Check out nlites, they do sets of 4 and 6 T5 lights with everything you need for like £50. You can also get a variety of different coloured lights from blue, white, purple etc.. so you can choose your light spectrum. (or a mix, white and red go well)

Would be perfect for that box, the lights are roughly 60cm long, so if you got yourself say 12 of em, 6 on each side giving you about about 300w of light. in that box.

Your box is 78cm high, lose a bit to the CFLS and the internal dimensions, seems like you might be looking at a headroom of 60cm or so. Get yourself some square/flat pots (ikea sell little shelf storag bins that are perfect, 15cm high or so)

Then just choose a short strain, tie the shit of out it, don't veg too long and let em grow right until they almost tough the lights.

Bobs your uncle mate. Any other CFL's are gonna kill headroom (reflectors etc..) and HPS will do the same.