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Herbal Kint
Not good fellas i got my plants 2 weeks from from flower and Trips are kicking in..My Q. is/ is that just trips eating them or its already viraly infected ? If so what to do am i better to dump tehm and strat over again or let them flower??

On few plants there is one leaf badly affected/picture down/under leaf i can see trips running.But not sure did they transfer any disiase already or its just from their daily munching? spliff.gif They got infected trough mother plants that i didnt treat i time 34.gif

Rest off plant looks ok,and roots look nice and white.

some pic.cant get better with my cam...

thanks for any advice



Herbal Kint
..picture off infected leaf that was taken down at lower part off plant
Herbal Kint
..closer
Herbal Kint
..same leaf taken down from plant turned into light to see the damage better.
Herbal Kint
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Herbal Kint
.so viral or i cant still save them ? unsure.gif

I can get Natural predator would that help?
Herbal Kint
Ok one more bump ,if no one nows what it is ill simply go to buy all anti trips products ....hoping its no viral disise from trips pinch.gif
Poacher
hey man, do you mean you think you have 'thrips'? wee insects? if so then no i dont think you have, have you seen any little fuckers on the leaves?

edit: looking at them again it does look fungal related dude, especialy the leaf you are holding up to the light
Herbal Kint
QUOTE (Poacher @ Oct 29 2009, 11:43 PM) *
hey man, do you mean you think you have 'thrips'? wee insects? if so then no i dont think you have, have you seen any little fuckers on the leaves?

edit: looking at them again it does look fungal related dude, especialy the leaf you are holding up to the light

Yeah they are Trips lots off them running under the leafs.

I dont get are they cause off leafs dying or its something they infected my plants with.Rest off plant looks ok but i have a fealing its spreading/going mental today i really tried with this grow and now am not sure if am better off to bin them and start again or continue with present plants and get problems in flowering?Or its just trips damage that can be solved....

Maybe it is fungus but where from?Never had it...how do i detect it? Off to browse sick plants forum..
Owderb
THRIPS not trips leave a silvery slug like trail on the surface of the leaves where they have sucked the sap from the leaf

I'm not sure it is thrips from the pics though

Owd
Herbal Kint
QUOTE (Owderb @ Oct 30 2009, 01:16 AM) *
THRIPS not trips leave a silvery slug like trail on the surface of the leaves where they have sucked the sap from the leaf

I'm not sure it is thrips from the pics though

Owd

Ok thrips, i see them throug the loupe but camera is to lame to picture them,its too blurry.What can you say from overall look off the plant/infected leaf?Is that worth the houstle or am gona end up with 3 leafs per plant in few weeks? It looks more fungal/viral or ? I cant tell the diference..

I chopped that infected leaf and i saw two fuckers runnind under leaf,that all i do for now chopping them out off plant.

I had thrips here/i tougth its Lsf then but they were thrips http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...=146676&hl= maybe i never got fully rid off them. unsure.gif
eri
Yeah it doesn't look like thrip damage man, not at all. It does look like you've got something fungal going on. Are you extracting to outside the grow area and do you have an oscillating fan set up?

As for the pests, have a good look at the little fuckers and look at pictures here and see which they look like! Or maybe draw a little picture for us and upload it?

Have you put these plants onto flower yet?
Herbal Kint
Yup 800m2 extraction,oscilating fan on,temps from24 to 27c .Not in flower 2 weeks till flower pinch.gif

Fungal it is then ,ill just shut up now and shot my self doh.gif

thanks mates
eri
This is what advanced thrip damage looks like :-



But if you've got something crawling on your plants, you need to identify it mate!
eri
They look a bit over ferted too man - what kind of compost is that you're using? Definitely some N burn going on there.

I would get rid of those mouldy looking leaves ASAP. Make sure you get them well out of your grow area and clean your hands before you touch other leaves! People seem to like using Essence to treat LSF these days, so that's probably your best bet. If you can't get that, get some Citrofresh. I use it and it works against loads of different strains, just not the newer more virulent ones.

The danger with LSF is if it goes systemic... once that happens, you're doomed. You won't know until you get rid of all infected leaf and treat them.

Is the oscillating fan making the leaves move? (not constantly, just every now and then...)
Herbal Kint
Yeah i saw that pic mate ,first think i browsed knowledge base and i saw the fuckers trough the loup today ,they are trips but i new it was not just that when i saw that rusty leaf s ,that was just too much for trips .

First i saw it on killer s then it spreaded on SB. yup oscilating fan is moving them leafs,now and then.Also checked roots from infected ones today and they look nice and white..
Compost is compo sana for Tomatos

heck me if this grows goes wasted i give up man, 5th fuck up in a row 34.gif


i now you fellas cant help me i dont even have i deacent camera to take pictures,dont now why i even waste ppls time, ill just remove infected leafs and plants for start and let the grow go so what ever happens.Get some pesticide for thrips...duno ,dissapointed a bit


Thanks all
eri
QUOTE
First i saw it on killer s then it spreaded on SB

Yeah, mould will get everywhere man.

Don't panic just yet, but whatever you don't just leave it! You need to get something to treat the mould and get it ASAP. For now, get rid of those infected leaves... otherwise the spores will just increase exponentially!

I've had pretty bad LSF infection several times before and always got it under control. If you notice it early on, you have every chance of sorting it out.

As for the thrip, you need to KILL the fuckers and kill them good. You're lucky you're not in flower. I grow organically, but I would heartily recommend using something extremely nasty on them spliff.gif All trace of it will be gone by the time you get to harvest, as it will have been metabolised. Follow the instructions here. You will need a lance. Cover the tops and bottoms of every single leaf. DRENCH those fucking leaves in the stuff. Follow the instructions to the letter and they will die! The one time I had thrip it sure as hell worked for me thumbsup.gif
eri
I am also a strict vegan btw, but there was a song in my heart as I killed those little fucks whistling.gif
Herbal Kint
QUOTE (eri @ Oct 30 2009, 02:00 AM) *
I am also a strict vegan btw, but there was a song in my heart as I killed those little fucks whistling.gif

Oh i feel you,the problems they cause are not small,why they dont fit in and munch a bit less i would let them be.This way i just have no other choice but kill them. 34.gif

well got back from Growshoop 1 and 2 i didnt find anything containing Bifenthrin cry.gif But seen thrips and fella working there was helpfull and showed them under microscope,they are white thrips and he gave me Plagron Neem oil and some sticky tapes as only solution he can offer..pic

From PM s from a helfull fella grower i found out that am dealing with the fungus that they have put into the plant sap stream. So will try to get Plant magic Essence as a cure for it to outbattle fungus. Also found out that Dynamec containing abermectin as an active ingredient is better for eradicating thrips. /So lucky ones that have it in near shop this is your solution for Thrips.


Ill put few fresh pics off plants in hour or two when camera is done charging.
Herbal Kint
sticky tape for thrips,anyone saw that before? unsure.gif
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