Hi Newbie here please be gentle.I have been lurking around for far to long now.The time has arrived for action next year if i do nothing else i will get a crop on.Some of the grows on here are a complete inspiration love reading the diaries for tips.Good luck to everyone.

Which brings me to my next point, site location. I live in the countryside which i thought would help its not until you really start looking for a site that you realise how much of your local enviroment is utilised by people .My problems are the lack of suitable woodland most of it has been taken out by famers to increase the size of there fields.The woods that there is are all used by shooters which means scary game keepers.I have found a couple of likely sites but on reading the posts on here then i have been kidding myself if i think they will not be discovered to near to paths and walkers. Looks like i will have to spread the net a bit further afield .i have found a couple of places but they are "up the hills" and i fear the ground may be a bit wet will have to keep an eye on it.Unbelievable really oh for a patch of wasteland nicely overgrown......
Finally i live in the north of england any suggestions for a couple of good strains any ideas gratefully received. i am hoping to start a diary and making some sort of contribution to the site .Even if it is how not to do things!!!!!!!!!!!!.cheers

Google maps can give you a rough idea to find sites. Try bing maps too, they might have aircraft shots on a chosen location (handy that)

The idea is to find a place where no fukka will want to go, if you umm + arr about going through overgrown/stingy nettles, then this is your place.

If want to look less suspicious, have a cover in place ie birdbook and binos, metel detector + shovel

I have the same problem. Thinkin of an outdoor grow next year in the north. Goin to start checkin sites out as soon as poss.

Johna

Hi thanks for the advice.I have used google maps and they are handy only thing is the pictures are from about four years ago.i have just looked at my house and it is only half built funny i have been it four years!!.they do give you a great overview though. i have just spotted a likely site up the hills using it and i am off to check it out this afternoon.I hope it hasnt been cleared as they have been doing a lot of tree thinning out lately, by they i mean the forestry commission. Having said that could be doing me a favour!

With regards cover and dont laugh ,i was thinking of taking my dog whistle lead and a picture of my dog .Just a man who has lost his dog! she is a gun dog so they are prone to wandering into the wilderness.Sounds a bit off it i know but there you go, but i do like the idea of metal detector gives you a excuse for the shovel.

Bing maps never heard of them but will defo have a look.Cheers

So,I have been out checking a potential site as i said earlier.jesus I now really respect you guys and the work you put in .Decided i would have to go of the beaten track.I had spied a spot on google earth and headed off by my reckoning about half a mile up a hillside and then a sharp left into the woods.Easy how hard could it be.I stepped of the path into the bracken and just about vanished to make things worse the area has had a lot of trees felled and the bracken is on top of it really hard going but still promising struggled into the woods and on to a clearing ground is a bit boggy with all the years of dead vegetation but other wise good .A definite contender decide to return to the path and head onwards.The one bit were i am in the open is the 70 or so metres between path and forest half way across .I wasnt been quiet just struggling to get out!! i looked up and was greeted by a dog walker and his family up on the path.I tried to look nonchalant but its hard when you clearly have no business being there.Taking this as a timely reminder this shit aint easy must be more careful.
Still onwards and upwards to the next potential site pretty much the same drill but these woods are pine found the clearing which opens onto fields which would give two possible entry/ exits only a bout 10ft wide but plants on the edge would hopefully get enough sun pretty good site i think.Turn around and see the remains of a fire...fuck who are these people i mean this is really hard to get to on inspection it is a old fire that some scruffy bastards have had and left there empty bean tins still may have to scratch this one .Headed back to the car with sore aching legs and it feels like no progress but the perfect site is out there i just have to find it.Will keep you informed

Yep finding sites is hard. People walking nearby and litter are not good signs. Farmland can be suprisingly poor for sites. It tends to be exposed and well used. Unused fringes of land are the best bets if you can find them and if you have a way of accessing them descreetly.

The way Im doing it is simple, this year I only grew one or two plants per site. These sites havnt been ripped so they will be expanded. I will also find new sites in which I will only put one or two plants. If a site gets ripped it gets abandoned, if it doesnt it gets bigger next year.

Keep looking, Avoid farmers woodland if it looks like shooting is going on.

more sites the better even if you dont fill them you got them in your head for next year.

Soil and light can be improved for that almost perfect site.

Wakenbake

got to agree with what wakenbaker said i am not trying to give advice as i havent done an outdoor grow yet due to the weather we have had in the past and problems i have encounted this year if you are stuck for space why not consider growing one or two monsters like magoo done here and there takes up a hell of a lot less space and if i remember correctly with all the bad weather we had last year magoo had over a kilo off one big plant so its worth having a think about

Thanks guys yes i am coming round to wakenbakers way of thinking i have followed his diary and i must say he seems a top bloke especially not ripping that plant he found "well done to you fella".I have learned a lot just lurking in the shadows and at first i could not see the point of just having one plant per site .I think its the way to go to have small grows but for me it will be two or three plants per plot.I do believe the saying about "to observe is not to see" or something like that! and plants that blend in to there enviroment stand a chance. So of scouting again today and we will see what it brings.
By the way the plants of magoo and others are incredible austrian tokkers are a thing of pure beauty....arghhh one day

I have grown plants on waste ground in London mate,1000's of people passed each day on the train,I have sat on the train myself and looked at the plants,I am sure you can pull something off in the countryside,just scout around

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Hi Bad Penny i have just read the full thread lot of good advice i do have a couple of cheeky sites in mind.I dont know if this is a omen but i had the police helicopter hovering over me this morning whilst scouting about.i swear i have not seen a police helicopter over here ever.Still they were after the local gippos and not me but for fucks sake what with yesterday.Still plenty of time and plenty of sites to go .Decided to relax about it every no gets me closer to a yes if you see what i mean.

The ironic thing is my back garden is perfect open fields to the back and some trees for cover problem is i live next door to my in laws and a copper on the other side.he ho

I started lookin for plots by following the local rivers, canals and streams with online maps, there may also be some handy drainage ditches alongside fields that could be productive. Fishing gear a camera or a dog will give you a reason to be randomly wandering the countryside, a fishing rod bag/holdall is real handy for tools. I ended up taking spades, forks and pick axes on the train and bus in my rodbag this year with no one the wiser.

Water and a southerly facing aspect along with security are the three main priorities imo.

Happy rambling all!! I hope we all find that sunny spot for next years grow.

looking for spots at this time of the years sucks.. do it in mid summer and you will get a better idea just how camouflaged your babies will be.. i thought i found an ideal spot last year, but i didnt bother and im glad i didnt.. i went back in the summer and there was horse shit everywhere... but on that journey i found this spot..

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this spot took me 20 mins to get to thru knee high brambles and black berry bush i got cut to fuck.. and those stingers are taller than me at 6ft4 .. there is no thru way and only 1 way in..

Roll on next may i got just enuf seeds from my garden grow this year to fill that patch with mid september finishing passion no.1

no doubt i will scout about before then thou.. i might be lucky and find another peach..

That looks like a great spot Mr Coco!

Hey Vapours, best of luck for your grow next year mate! My advice to you is definately don't risk anything with your plots! If there's someone nearby, don't go if you risk being seen. When you approach your plot try not to create obvious pathways as obviously people will follow! Another thing is if you're driving don't park consistentely in a suspicious place because some people may notice your car routitenly parks there and get suspicious! (us country folk don't have much else to do)

I'm thinking about next year planting it in with some maize, as long as I had an early finishing strain I would be alright. I've been noticing which fields have been cut when some farmers still have it out now...others cut it 6 weeks ago. You also want to try and consider water at your site.

Like Bad Penny said, can be in obvious places too, you can see some of mine from the train and also a lot of dog walkers go less then 20m to my plants. In fact I've actaully been there when people were less than 5 metres away from 15 6ft weed plants and they didn't even notice them. Although it does stink there.

Hope you have fun growing and make sure you get an early finishing strain, best of luck.

~Satta

Some factors to take into account: If the site is a shit to access, it's probably good. If a site has a descreet entrance, it's good. If a site has tall thorns/blackberry/nettles, be very wary of leaving a trail. If it has poor soil use pots like funkimunki. I cannot stress enough the importance of bunny protection from the planting out stage. Don't forget water sources, parking spaces, and sunlight. What may appear brilliant in the spring, might be totally useless late in flower, when the buds need all the lumens they can get.

Scouting for a spot now, is recommended, as this gives a better indication of what the buds will see.Good luck, look forward to hearing your trials and tribulations next season. Keep cool.

O, and regarding your back yard...forget it, go wild. All towns and villages have some good spots, just off motorways are good, some motorways force farmers to 'cutoff' a field, where the tractor cannot plough. These spots are often totally neglected, small but lots of potential, just get the camo spot-on. A bored truck driver might be stuck in a jam, and gaze at the grass below.

Some excellent advice from everyone thanks, Satta yes the car thing is a problem as you say us country folk notice if a car parks regularly in a particular position.I think it will be the old mtb for most visits and stash it in the hedge.Car will be used as little as poss. I do think it is a good time of year to have a scout as my thinking is if there is still cover now there will be shit loads in the summer.I have taken bad pennys advice and started to head towards civilisation and away from the moors as i do fear soil probs up there anyway.I have found a nice spot on a bank of a stream even now the reeds are still standing and about 8ft could pop a couple in there i think but will keep an eye on it.i have also identified a few more sites on google earth which look very promising .

Has anybody grown a variety called ducks foot! looks interesting and also black widow outdoors any help as usual will be gratefuly received.

Scrap ducks-foot,it wont finish and it was just a novelty plant like lowryder Wallyduck was the breeder and just happened to get on the bandwagon at the right time

I can recommend Paradise Seeds's Rox, they fininsh late sept/oct, and have a very clean and productive high. Knockout takeoff.

Feminised Rox are out of stock everywhere mate,been trying to get some myself

Rox is ok not amazing tho , Frisian dew knocks spot off it for yield , size and overall vigor best outdoor i have ever smoked

Pants. Mr F, I've heard F Dew is a mold magnet come harvest, does the high make it worthwhile?

I'm on a Rox and Early Sat mission then.

Im scanning google earth looking for plots. Im looking at motorway's and railways for those "cut off" bits of scrubland covered in blackthorn and brambles. Gonna have a sensimelia plot of easy sat's and a seed plot with passion #1 regs. Also tempted to try durban poison as a comparion to the easy sats.

I already got my packets of Frisian Dew in the fridge Mr F,I am going to attempt to grow a monster of a plant using trout-waste only as ferts,I have faith

Ducksfoot is wank grown it myself and it had a shit flavour and shitt smell. The only good thing about it, is the fact everytime you look at it, you laugh like hell at the silly shaped leafs completly unique, but wank at the same time.

its a lovely looking plant if grown indoors but we are on about outdoors here i have taked to wally duck as i fancyed trying some and who told me like bad penny said it would be a very late finisher here in the uk and to choose some other strain just in case the plant would be full of bud rot before it had chance to finish which i think could have been late november. there are lots of different strains of ducks foot but none to suit the uk outdoors

Duck s foot a no go then , i am thinking at the moment of AMS, early sativa if available and another.Yes i am looking at cut off bits next to main roads .i am also going to put on the waders and follow the local river.Feeling quite positive this week suns out and there is a whole world of sites to scope out.cheers

sorry meant easy sativa

Enjoy it!