Some years ago possibly ten or eleven I got a cutting form an old acquaintance that was quite unique to anything I have come across, smoked or grown since, the only thing that is remotely similar to it is some of the haze varieties.
This particular cutting was apparently Red Thai or Super Red Thai, that's all I was told. I managed to keep the stain for a few years but unfortunately lost it in the end due to poor maintenance of the mother and low winter temperatures in the location in which I was growing at the time.
This plant was very different in quite a few ways, I think many land race traits showed through in the mature plants and buds. The leaves were extremely pointed, delicate, and slender with heavily jagged serrations, dark green in colour turning with a reddish hue later in flowering. The buds also developed a slight reddish, lavender tint to them also and were very resinous. The plant had a high bud to leaf ratio, it grew to a medium, tall hight and possibly tripled in height whilst in flower, which lasted for anything between 10 and 12 weeks.
Effects and high were truly unique, sativa dominant, very powerful, visual and long lasting. After 17 years of smoking possibly hundreds of different varieties of cannabis and 10 years of growing out many dozens of different strains I've never come across anything similar in terms of the effect only in terms of physical similarities within the structure of the buds themselves.

Was interested if anyone thinks they have smoked or come across anything similar.

sounds like you had some very unique material .
it's hard to get a manageable thai for indoor cultivation.
I suspect a male indica to have been crossed with a thai plant.
It's a wild guess, but that's just my opinion.

Try crossing a male top44 with some thai durban , and see what you get.

Why Top44?
Its a pretty mediocre plant at the best of times.

top44 is manageable, and the flavour is all there.
Crossing it with a sativa makes it express a cerebral high.

Compared to other " hard hitting " strains - yes it is mediocre.
On itself it is a stable and predictable plant IMHO.

The male plant makes it possible to determine the stature of the cross.

Psycho-tik, Top44 might be a mediocre to strong smoke (not sure, not tried it doesn't really interest me) but it would be probably one of the last places I would start to look for the unique high I found within this red Thai.

I'd grab one of the land-race Thai's.
World of seeds have one called Wild Thailand that's more or less a stabilised landrace strain.
Really good smoke too mate, completely unique.

I imagine that strain would atleast give you a decent hard start on what you're looking for.

e2a: Quick google found that some of those pheno's do indeed go purple, red etc. after low night time temps .

I'm staying away from WOS from now on. Bought a pack of Killimanjaro & Brazil Amazonia. Not one from the two packs germed when plenty of others did PPP(Nirvana?), Purple Satin (Private Breed) & a good selection of Namkahs seeds. I hope you exeprience different
TBS

having crossed a male afghan-durban into a top44 lady once , I can only say : Top44 is highly underestimated as a building block piece of genetics.
This cross I made finishes flowering at a stunning 38 days ( can be harvested at 40 though), and has a unique creeper high , and an original fine flavour.

Unexpressed genetics in a strain can be brought to life with the right crossing.
Don't forget Top44 is a skunk family member= sativa traits are still in it.

U don't need reputed strains in a cross to get a fantastic cross.

if were throwing strain names out there ill say:
hash passion
critical mass
g13 x widow

Psycho-tic - I am not interested in Top44, I am not interested in crossing Top44. I am particularly interested in what crosses or hacks you have or have not made with that variety . If you want to discuss Top44 then may I suggest you make a thread about it yourself .

there's some arrogance in the air.

enjoy it.

Arrogant, not me.

Trying to keep the thread on topic, yes.

If that strain is what you are into then fine that's cool with me I hope you enjoy it, TBH I very seriously doubt it is anything like what I am after, good day .

Ayup Hashishin ya oreet bro?....dude i cant really help much with your search but that sounds a hell that strain to have..

dont be too hard on psycho-fella ere eh,think he's tryin to help but goin on the breeding thing which your OBVIOUSLY not interested in.

...but yeah this mate'a yours from years back i guess he's no help/not about/no longer a mate or whatever?!...hmnnnn,..looks like a landrace pickin session for you my friend......happy shopping man...bizzler..

duuude iv found it,...super red thai...

Hi Bizzaro, nice 1

The cutting in question is from a lost contact so that avenue will yield no fruits but thanks for the suggestion .

Some Thai-Tanic at 11weeks flowering

Sounds lovely Hash, it's a wounder when you look back at the strains you used to have but have lost....

Anyway, as you don't seem to fancy a Top44 cross, have you thought about crossing a Thai with TurdRyder? I think this will give you the results you are looking for. The TR will bring down the stretch, speed up the flowering time, and it has a well renowned flavour and high?

stickyblack that Thai-Tanic looks exceellent indeed, might have a gander meself, fancy some new srains for me next grow...

Monk...x

Hi Stickyblack , I have grown out 2 sets of Thai-tanic seeds since I lost the original Thai mother in an effort to try and rediscover the lost genetics but it was not to be, pics of your Thai looks nice though.

Hi Mono, Thai crossed with a Turd-ryder sounds like it could be an interesting prospect, although not entirely sure it would be what I was after as I have not smoked any lowryder.

Not sure if the original plant I had was pure Thai or a Thai-Skunk-Haze cross, I guess I will never know. TBH I think I am chasing the white rabbit a bit with this one. Saying that I would be interested to hear from anyone who thinks they have smoked or grown anything like what I have described, especially anyone who has travelled the area first hand and smoked the local land race themselves.

hi m8 . you might want a look at this 1 from sannies seeds , blue berry sativa

Type: Hybride / sativa
Flowering time

10-11 weeks
Harvest up to 550 gram/m2(indoor)
Taste: Sweet and berry
Effect: Energetic uphigh
flowers Long sativa cola's
THC: Percentage up to 20%

A total sativa/thai experience.
Flowering time from 10 to 11 weeks and really a big yielder.


These plants will make many long side branches and so very well suited for scrog growers.
This cross is also very stabile in plant structure what is not easy to find in a F1.
The difference there can be is leaf size. The best phenotype has small leaves and lends over towards Thai.
No hermies, not uncontrolable thai what is mostly the case, no problems what so ever on this Thai treat makes it unique to grow and experience.
The intense high is longlasting and the taste is like a strong tropical blueberry cocktail.

A must have for the berry lovers .


hope this helps

eta picture.

If you're into crossing the strongest manageable indica-ish with thai :
Try Medicine man, it's a whitewidow with some afghan in it.
It will knock most out.

Have a lady thai next to it.Badabing-badaboom.
(I used to get some serious cramped neck from medicine man , other enjoy it as one of the better medicinal strains)

Or get some decent Sensi Hashplant , sativa phno instead.
It's a very resinous fast flowering strain.

Sensi themselves played around with early pearl alot to standardize and manage strains better.

A mate of mine just suggested : get some male NewYorkCityDiesel to cross with a thai.
Its a fruity hefty strain that performs well under all circumstances ( both indoors and outdoors)

Thanks for looking in, after thinking about it I have come to the conclusion that I am not likely to find the mystical Thai high by asking other people where to find it. I was the person who experienced the high, so I should know and will know what that special unique high feels like when I experience it again.
I am going to have to wait until ( or indeed if ) I find a plant with similar effects and then go from there.

I thinthis red thi sounds simmilar to sumthing iv got at the moment the description u hav given is exact and it soundsa like it has got the same affect. Plus its got the typical thi smell and taste.

Fo sure there's virtually no way to find that exact high.However : the high, pistil color, and stature of the plant lead to the fact there's some distinct traits too look for.
The Logical conclusion might sound like a specific balance between phenotypes.
Now, as specific traits are differently expressed by typically known strains or plant families, suggestions of several strains could make it easier to eventually find a succesull cross.
Simply put : his strain might be able to remake with known strains.

If you're not into breeding ;fine, just don't have high expectations finding the strain you ionce loved.
Sometimes crossing hazes of different origin bring about the least expected combinations, sometimes awkwardly leading to strains that more likely than not appear to be true indicas, or sativas, or anything in between.
Other suggestions offer more control over phenotypes, making it easier to make any selections.

Red thai probably is dead.
Finding it's living original might prove itself to be harder than breeding it yourself.

In any way : best of luck.

hi, wish you well with your search. have you asked namkha from real seed company if he has come across something like what you are looking for. hope you find it, good luck