Hi people, looking for the best strain to start with, it's going to be my first grow, heres a list of items im going to use and the environment:

Area size:

4.5Ft W
3.5Ft L
6.5Ft H

System

Bubbler

Light

400W HPS

I was also wondering and I know it's in the wrong section but how many plants would you recommend and what nutrition would you recommend for me?

Thanks in advance,

~Bubbler

The answer is in your name.
Chronic from serious seeds is a great beginners plant imo. Very forgiving of a reasonable amount of abuse. Great yields and nice smoke. (Not as knock you on your arse as some designer strains but good nonetheless).Also stays shortish which you need with low ceiling imo.

Easy to grow should be the starting point whatever strain you choose I would say. Learning curve is steep enough without some tempremental strain.

Each to his own for nutes. I use General Hydro Flora series mixed as per Lucas Formula. Really simple and works well.

In my opinion if you plan on filling that space with plants you do not have enough light. I think 60watts per sq ft is minimum. You would have less than half that.

No of plants is up to you.One to twenty. Less plants more veg time and vice versa.

My main advice to any beginners I meet is KEEP IT SIMPLE. Get basics right and learn to read your plants.

Best luck.
Papa.

i would go for 4/5 plants tops, chronic is a good suggestion, great yield and easy but needs a good month curing to turn into great smoke. mazar is another easy one
i would recommend canna A+B from start to finnish, was recommended to me for early grows and am still using them cuz we have such good results. we also use canna pk13/14 and canna boost accellerator which if anyone is thinkin of using, DO. it proper thickens and firms the bud up and improves weight in end product
oh, forgot to say, i grow in coca so scrub all that

just finished a few nirvana white rhino, thats a very easy to grow plant, yields well to.
northern lights and skunk#1 is really easy to grow apparently, infact thats the next strains im growing next.
but must admit, would'nt mind a bash at chronic myself

Thanks for the advice Papa, Bob and Monkey, its been very useful. I think i'm going to grow Chronic after reading a little up on it and use the nutes you have suggested Papa. I should be starting my grow within the next month or so, so i'll post a diary of my first grow. Oh and if my light is too small i'll just buy a 600W HPS but my ventilation is going to be a problem for that size :/.

Thanks again for the advice

~Bubbler

Euphoria by Dutch Passion is a lovely plant, good smoke, nice yeald easy to grow and it comes feminised.

I grew Flying Dutchman's 'The Pure' which is their Skunk #1 for well over a year (several crops) - piss easy to grow, nice strong interesting smoke (starts of lively and active and funny only descends into couchlock if you let it) and for me little or no tolerance build up. A good bench mark strain to judge other's on when you really get the growing bug.

Chronic is a great starter

u cant go far wrong with skunk no 1,I did seedsman skunk no1 my first grow v forgiving took a lot of abuse over fertilising and produced a good harvest and a nice smoke.

Ok thanks guys, i still think i'm going to stick to growing Chronic first. Seems like a nice first option but thanks still for your replys.

~Bubbler

Bubbler,
I always get nervous when people take my advice as I start to feel responsible.

A few observations for what they are worth. Just opinions based on my experience.

You have 15.75 sq feet of growspace. IMO if you plan to use all that you need 1000w of light min. This would give you 63 watts per sq foot. A good level imo. You need a 600w AND your 400w.(Or only use a section of space).

As for cooling/ventilation you need a good source of fresh air and properly sized fans. Any amount of light can be cooled if you have these. Lots of info on here or post question if you not sure. A/C is an option if you can't blow enough cool air through space. This uses more electricity obviously.

I would always build room and make sure I have control over temps and humidity (remembering that a room that empty will always have lower humidity than one full of transpiring plants.)before putting plants in there. Nothing worse than struggling with environment when you have tender babies in the room.


As for no. of plants, if you plant at higher density (say about 1 per sq foot) you can flower when they are 8 inches tall and you won't have height problems later. If you do this with Chronic they should finish at about 2-21/2 feet.(A guy called Prawn on here grows Chronic very well. Worth a look if you ain't seen him).More plants more bust however.

If you doing some reading try to read anything you can find by Lucas. He was a pioneer and had a good open-minded scientific approach. He helped me loads when I started out.I no longer agree with all he says but would still recommend any grower ,new or old, to read his stuff. (Google asklucas ((one word)) to find him on some american site.) He gets a bit mathematical in places but you can ignore most of this if you have a good ec meter.

Most of all keep it simple. Don't over analyse it (It IS a virulent weed). And enjoy your new hobby.Sorry for rabbiting on. I have the day off.

Peace and buds.

Papa.

i'd do paradise seeds sensi star if i were a 1st time grower

easiest plants i ever grew

smoke will piss on chronic too which is, lets be honest, a shit smoke

Thanks a lot Papa there is some very useful information there, that has done me a whole load of good . Now u've said to just use a section of the room for flowering, i'm just going to use the other space for seed n veg, obviously make sure I light proof it.



Thanks also Smoke, i'm still not completely sure which plant i'm going to grow, but I think i'll of found out by the end of the this post

Thanks again to the both of you

~Bubbler

Watch chronic for mg deffiency or but a nute with a higher percent im using green dream 1part which is actually a 2 part which mix's when shaking the bottle so esy mate and i have tryed a fair few brands

yeh dont get me wrong chronic will be easy to grow

but i've smoked it from a good grower & seen countess reports of the smoke being shit

Smoketilluchoke,

Not trying to pick an arguement but I think it depends what you want from a smoke. Like I said in my first post Chronic does not knock you on your arse but is a mellow chilled high that allows me to get on with my life.. These days thats what I want.
I have a stash of euforia and blueberry for those occasions when I want something different and get really wasted.

Of course if you want really strong tripped out weed Chronic ain't the thing. I don't think that makes it shit though. Just my opinion and each to his own of course.

Also, of all strains I have ever grown Chronic is most particular about drying/curing. If you are not really careful it loses all taste and smell. I often think this may contribute to it sometimes poor reputation.

Peace
Papa.

had this debate a few times in the past like paps just said, what do want from your weed? ... for a first grow chronic's spot on very forgiving,yields huge, and for me personally is my favourite everyday smoke
I like to eat cheese and crackers, Cheddar is a lovely cheese for everyday, every now and then I like a strong hit of Gorgonzola, doesn't mean cheddars 'shit'

hungry now

yeah i hear what you are saying

and i know not everyone wants a knock out weed

i just dont really see the point in growing mediocre, tasteless weed with little effect

i can get better on the street & that kinda defeats the object of growing for me

expecially when there are so many strains for that price which will blow it out the water

I've heard Chronic isn't that great but I've also heard that it can be if grown well and cured well.

Either way I bet it's well above your average dealer weed mate.

Well the weed i'm looking for really people is what Smoke is saying, a knock out, put you asleep on the first drag weed, i'm not TO bothered about the yield, I would just like to carry the yield on till my next crop comes through, I smoke about a 10-20 (going off dealers rate as in, a £10-£20 bag) bag per night, so all in all I want a strong smoke with an all right yield.

Thanks fellow Bud smokers

~Bubbler

I would honestly recommend you just get yourself some of OT's UORG seed. If you want to grow knockout weed, just go for it. Those genes will be forgiving (in that they will be vigourous and strong, resistant to problems etc) and give you a real special smoke for your trouble.

Read up on here before you start and you'll be fine. Get your environment sorted before you even pop those fuckers!!! Get extraction to outside, an oscillating fan, all the stuff you need etc.

If you can't bring yourself to part with that much money, you could do a lot worse than picking up an F2 White Widow and growing that. Widow is an easy plant to grow and people like Nirvana do a nice F2 for around £20

this is the problem dogzilla

he is a first time grower and is likely not to grow it to perfection

thats why i mentioned sensi star coz its easy to grow & is strong, not the best in the world, but leagues ahead of chronic

you follow ot1's schedule with that and you are guaranteed a bangin smoke

Yeah thats exactly what i'v been thinking just go for it, and money won't be a problem when bud is involved .

My environment will be sorted well before I order my seeds, this is my first grow so I want everything perfect before I put anything in my system, hopefully all will go according to plan, i'v been planning quite alot.

Thanks

~Bubbler

Northern lights- flowers in 7 weeks,low odour,powerful smoke.

If you are used to dealer weed then Chronic is probably going to feel like a knock out smoke.

Need to take what some people say here with a pinch of salt, I don't mean that in a bad way but some guys on here puff the finest quality all day long every day... so when they say chronic isn't that strong it's because in comparison to the grades they are on it isn't...

My first grow was an automatic, white dwarf, with CFL's and a shit home made box.. I still got a nice 7/10 smoke, close to 8/10 white widdows I had in the dam.

My feeling is you could pick pretty much any of the main popular strains, white widow, skunk, northern lights etc... and you will end up with something decent and well worth the smoke and it will put you on your arse full stop.

Northern lights all the mate. Fast finisher with good yield. You'll be lucky to get one done in 7 weeks though. More like 8.

I second your choice dude that was my first strain i ever grew,great smoke with 8oz per plant so i would say deffo worth a try mate....

i would say any of the 8 week flowering female seed strains... or any fem seed that flowers in 8 weeks id say that your system will more than likely be the thing that catches u out.. try some quality soil in pots/buckets you might have to repot a few times but this way is a lot more forgiving if you make small mistakes..

good luck anyways matey

edit;
oh skunk no.1 would be my choice if i was a beginner .... femmed version..

skunk 1. easy to grow and clone

Thanks everybody for your reply's they have been very useful for my soon to be first grow , sorry about replying so late its just iv been doing some maintenance to my bedroom so i'v not had much time to get online

~Bubbler

Cheese , cracking smoke ,I did it my 1st grow. You cant go wrong with Cheese if you want a knock out smoke . Didnt have really have any problems , could of done it better but thats what its all about on your 1st grows finding your own way .

I Wish you luck with whatever you do mate , I'd go for a strain you fancy . I dont think it matters how hard it is to grow if you have the wealth of info you have here . Any problems or anything u may get , one search on here will give you a solution

My 2ps worth anyway , good luck bro

as far as potency goes not smell critical mass is stronger and yields the same

is it only serious seeds that do chronic?

maybe this is the reason why certain people are so down on chronic, serious seeds have put in alot of work on this seed and have made the best strain for yield and quality (sound like an advert, but I love it) other seed companies just put out any old big yielder and use the name

i dont think i've ever seen chronic from another seed co

i could be wrong but the only one ive ever seen is serious

Ok thanks again people, but another change of plan ,

i'm going to be doing about a 6 planter in coco, hand watering from the bottom mainly will be doing the top also, under a 600W hps for flower and most probs a 250W cfl for veg/ seed, growers ark first feed/ growers ark coco bloom and grow, and my chosen strain will be Killer Skunk just waiting for them to stock up :@. Will be looking to start my grow in a couple of week, can't wait . I'll definitely be doing a grow diary seen as it's my first grow and I will most probably need help with any problems.

Thanks again for all the replys.

~Bubbler

Good choice

Stinks,hits like a mofo ,easy to grow and clone..perfect strain IMO. Find a keeper and make some mums

i've grown mazar for a year now .. can't big it up enuff .. easy to grow very forgiving .. nice yield and a nice smoke .. easy to clone .. does'nt get too tall .. why dont'cha try two varieties and then you'll gain more experience of how diff plants need diff attention ..

I know i'v done quite a bit of research on this strain and found it's a beast of a smoke



Great idea, I think I will actually give that a shot, and by what you have said about it it sounds like a nice plant to grow, yeh so think i'll go for it

Thanks both of you

~Bubbler

My mate grew Mazar. Was a piece of piss to grow. It's a very hard hitter though, seriously put me out every single time. Not something you want to smoke if you are feeling energetic, will knock the fuckin wind out of you .

Deffo cure it nicely, i had a bit in a bag for over a month that I completely forgot about, opened it up and the smell and flavour came out, kinda fruity/mango smell, smoke flavour is hard to describe, doesn't taste like much at all, which I like

Yeh thats what i'm looking for a good strong hitter and I most probably will cure it because I doubt I will be smoking it all in one night haha, I seriously can't wait to get my grow going, make sure to check my diary out even though it will most probably will be a disaster

~Bubbler

has anyone suggested pure power plant?

Nope I don't think they have.

I'd just like to add that it will be my first grow so i'm going to be using seeds ordered online, meaning, I won't be able to do like 4 types of strain due to prices, I don't really want to be spending like £200 on strains on my first grow

Thanks

~Bubbler