its time to flush and its my first time i keep hearing carbonic acid helps keep the flavor and can be found in coca cola?
im not to sure and wanted feed back on carbonic acid and where and wat its purpose is? and wat else keeps the flavor?

water, flush with water..... always with water..

H2O all the time bro ......then nothing 4 the last 2 or 3 days that way the plant uses every thing shes got and helps with drying

Fucking do it buddy!!! You're nuts!

It does sound initially like madness, but when you think about it a bit more there could be method to the madness. Adding molasses is great in the 2nd week of flush, and coca cola is packed full of sugar. Why not try it with some diluted coke, and make sure the pH isn't too low with coke being acidic enough to clean coins. It might be okay down around 4/5pH but much lower will stress the plant out too much I'm guessing, and you don't really want it in the 5.5-6.3 range in flush.

Worth playing around with on a test plant but for heaven's sake don't do it on your pride and joy/only smoke....and post the results here...

GN

Caveat: if it kills your plant, please don't come and kick me in the kidneys....cheers thanks bye

Sounds viable to me. I have added stuff like SIS High Carb energy gel to my feed in the last two weeks on my last grow.. The Gels were black currant flavoured. You can see here

Some of my mates and myself said the weed had a fruity kind of taste to it

I am near the end of a flower cycle so will try it on a few plants to see what happens with coke..

Fuck the rules

LOVE IT DOOBZ!

Keep up the good work DOOBZ!

Here's the rules I guess:


From here: http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?auto...showarticle=536

ATB

Stan

If u want the carbonic acid without the coke then just use fizzy water...

Ive just had a thought..

Roots love oxygen and oxygenated water, so why is giving carbonated water ie co2 good for them???

It aint really is it?

Sorry should have said "fuck the rules and fuck science"

If you aint done it.. dont talk shit about it.. simplez

Flush with red bull, then you really can smoke a joint n fly

Sounds like your mates are having a laugh with you

Could have said 'Let's see whether the established science stands-up to scrutiny in my case' too...

G'luck with the experimenting - let us know how it goes...

ATB

Stan

coke is full of phosphoric acid, i.e. P, not exactly what you want with a flush!!! carbonic acid is simply carbon dioxide dissolved in water, so any fizzy drink. maybe just try some soda water. dunno if heavily co2'd water will do the roots any harm or not?

if anyone does do it let us all know how it turns out, I am to shy of trying stuff out...sounds odd, but fuk it why not

Try with robinsons strawberry yummmy i reckon coke will just kill it but ya never know

I love Coca cola, somehow I think carbonated would make very little difference, wouldn't take long to lose it's carbonation especially if you have an airstone in your res.

Coco cola as a PH down, now that might be interesting.

fruit juice- maybe. an may work slightly by adding sugars but wont change it completly i doubt.
carbonated water- defo no no.( roots need oxygen not carbon diaoxide) may do the plants no good.

i wouldnt think phosphoric acid would be good for a plant , not if it cleans concrete anyway

you can't add flavour via the roots.



if you don't like the way your smoke tastes, there's something called tasty puff thats made to be put on smokables .

that doesn't mean its any good for you though ...

I knew a mate who'd use 'sparkling' water on his plants now an then outdoors, which appeared to give a visible boost to the plants - the leaves would 'perk' right up - not quite point to the sky but definitely stand prouder than after a normal watering.

His reasoning behind this was that the fizzing bubbles of CO2 being released as it peculated through his medium aerated it - the CO2 not being detrimental as it's released almost straight away.

I'm not advocating it and if anyone wants to dispel this theory (facts or practice) pse do

It's used as pH down mate... but not in the concentration that cleans concrete

But yeah - I'v seen nothing that recommends adding more phosphate ions during final stages of flowering...

ATB

Stan

If you aren't already self sufficient with enough in the jars to cover any fuckups, then it is madness and stupid madness at that.

YOU'VE GOT NO BUD AND THIS CROP IS MISSION CRITICAL TO YOU

No fucking about with mission critical grows, keep it plain and simple all the way.

Likewise pal.

Carbonic acid, CO2, imparts a sour taste to food products when used for storage (as in dry ice used to keep food cold).

EVEN IF YOU COULD (AND YOU CAN'T) IMPART TASTE BY USING FLAVORED WATER, CO2 WATER AIN'T GOING TO HELP THE TASTE.

Got it?

noted

You can get CO2 in tablet form that disolves in water, takes six hours to properly bond to the water molecule.... its some good stuff.

Good for what? An upset tummy?

Fair enough... but if taken to extremes (and without a review of previous knowledge) we'll simply be reinventing the wheel if we don't trust what others have found-out before us (whether through accredited study or personal experience)...

It was the 'fuck the rules, fuck the science' bit that struck me as being counterproductive in the long-run... they're simply tools to be used & abused...

I think I understand the sentiment... but that's all it is....

ATB

Stan

E2A - dunno why I'm being semantic & pedantic today... but it is relevant IMO...

wonder if people will ever learn that it just aint gonna happen.

Want different flavoured weed ? Grow different varieties.

Or mix it with flavoured tobacco

Is there not a product you can spray onto buds that changes the flavour or something? - That strikes me as being an easy option...

ATB

Stan

Yeah coca cola, they call it coke dip round my way, it's foul.

Seriously?

If so I imagine it would taste like burning sugar & caffiene

Stan

you can put some orange or lemon peel into your jar of pot, will change taste and smell.

- thanks for that TS... couldn't find my arse with both hands today...

Stan

Just to throw a spanner in the works, and I hope this isn't considered spam. I've scanned out of the recent Soft Secrets a part of an advert from Soma's nutrient range. It blew me away to see Soma putting his name/face to this stuff - I mean, who would want to add chocolate to NYCD or mint to Amnesia Haze??! I could understand wanting to give some flavour to Top44, Chronic, Powerplant or Bigbud on commercial grounds but that's about it. Not for the connoisseur or purist imho.

Anyhow, here's the ad:

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GN

edited to add the photo because I'm a dope

more edited to add: I can understand molasses giving plants a sugary finish in flush, but everything else I have read says that actual flavours aren't acquired through feeding....so this could well be spectacular snakeoil from the one person I genuinely didn't expect to jump on the gravy train quite so blatantly. Why not try taking some strawberry food flavouring, mixing it in with molasses and water, and use that in flush as a test - and see if there's any strawberry flavours imparted in to the weed. I thikn the flavouring is available at any supermarket. Again, from what I've read it won't work but I'd love someone to try anyway

As for flavour... if you followed the thread you would have noticed I was comenting on co2 level in water, not changing the flavour.

Its good for supplying co2 to the plant through the roots and not the leaves. Its a better alternative to carbonated waterc more co2 per leter. It is good to have oxidised water too especially in hydro systems, a proper soil mixture will also help airation and oxidation. co2 tablets are not an alternative to airation.

Besides, what flavour could carbonated water give to a plant. If you really want, chew gum or suck a mint when you smoke.

feeling a wee bit defensive eh?





Source please. I've never heard of CO2 being absorbed by the roots, but I have read that the roots need more oxygen at night, hence most CO2 regimes release CO2 during the day with the exhaust fan off. I've never heard of supplying extra CO2 to the roots to aid growth.

^ this if you want to change the flavour, not by adding random shit to your root system, your plants will hate you for it.

dont do it coz if there is any sort of sugar in ur plant when u light up the heat will caramalise the sugar and wil go hard and wont burn ive had it sprayed wiv sugar water its nasty

A bit smappy today I'll admit...

Check out No Mercy CO2 tabs. They're quite good. I've had good experiences with them. I do believe the jury is still out as to how benificial root absorbed co2 is but in my personal experience it helps a lot. It no replaement for air circulation but it helps if temps are too high or circulation is poor.

Hasn't Soma got some very expensive legal shit going on?

read to the end...
"this range incorporates a phantom" ???

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Phantom taste aka placebo?

GN

It dsapeered ealier in the year but seriously we had what we called coke dip wheather it was coke who knows but the weed and been dipped in something sweet and sticky.
That and grit weed almost led to me quitting smoking for ever.

Hey Ninja, Nice find dude.. I know the stuff you speak of @ the supermarket. In the add it mentions essential oils so it might be different to the super market stuffs.. Its worth a try tho my friend.

I wonder when the add mentions some sort of (phantom), if he is referring to some sort of ingredient that is like a carrier for the oils into the plants cells or tissues. If he does then it must be inside the energy gels I use in my plants also.

phosphoric is PH down. literally, that's what you get in a bottle of PH down, 81% food grade orthophosphoric acid. it's also dosed into tap water at some treatment plants, to line lead pipes to stop lead leaching into the water. it has a sweet taste and is perfectly edible (although not at 81% purity!!!!!)

theres a product called sweet leaf u can feed through veg an flower an its supposed to make your buds much sweeter, ive used it a few times an it works ok. never been able to do a proper comparison with same strain so dunno for sure but it seemed quit good it was very thick an sticky tho.

i wouldnt want to use carbonated water or added co2 thats only gotta be bad for roots, they need oxygen the more the better, by feeding them co2 your depriving them of oxygen which cant be good. id rather feed em oxygenated water never carbonated water, thats jus silly.