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toker316
High guys, does anyone think it would be possible to grow maybe 10 plants for about 8 weeks and then make hash from them?

Would there be enough thc if you had the lights on for 18/6 the entire 8wks. Ive seen a few plants in veg and they have had little trichomes on the foliage and to a lesser extent on the stems.

so assuming 10 plants were well looked after they should be a fair size after 8wks in veg, in which case is it possible to grow soley to make hash??. how many grams do you think could be made, and what hash making technique provides the most grams per oz of greens.

sorry for all the questions, any help would be appreciated. A friend started growing only a week or so back and wants to weigh up the options available before going on holiday.

cheers
Ganjaman
So you just want to veg and no flowering? then hash the leafs? you wont get much nothing worth the 8weeks you sent growing them when you could of been flowering
GusHansen
ERM, they will have no THC in them smile.gif

Flower them for 8 weeks or till finished then butane the whole crop or soak in alcohol, or maybe bubble it, choice it yours.
toker316
thanks for the replies. my mate was just looking at what options there are. basically in 8wks he will be on holiday for a week.

hes thinking veg for 4 wks and flower for 4wks and leave them in the dark for a week. hes not keen on using a timer while away. its either that or eight weeks of 18/6 and make hash. I was under the impression that using buds to make hash would be better but some people use leafs and whatever waste is left at the end of the grow. if thats not the case its time to look at another way of keeping the little ones alive while on his hols
treeofsatta
Can you get any clones? You could give them a one or two week veg on 25/7 then flower for 6/7 weeks make hash if you reaaaaaly want to.

Why not just water your mates plants for him whilst he's away?! unsure.gif
erbivore9
Total waste of time imo. 8 weeks 12/12 from seed would produce something but not much and it would only be half done at best. Leaf trim is good for hash but only if it came from a plant with buds on.
toker316
yeah might need to water them for him. still a bit of a problem because the lights in the loft and he doesnt want to leave it on while away. I was reading somewhere leaving plants in the dark for a few days is okay??. will work something out tho.

for some reason I liked the idea of growing a load of trees for 8 or so weeks and making hash. just because it takes 4wks off the total grow time. but suppose if using just leaf and stem isnt going to work its back to the drawing board.

Grimweeder
you cant just grow the plants for 8 weeks veg an make hash. there wont be anything to make hash from, you need the flowers to make hash still an you need trichomes to make it.
best thing to do is veg em for 2-3 weeks an flower for 6-7 weeks using a pure or mainly indica that finishes early youl still get a decent amount of hash in 8 weeks time from start to finish.
etiher use bubble sacs or dry the bud to do a dry sift, or you can butane the whole lot, but without flowering them until you have bud that has a decent amount of resin on its pointless trying to make hash.
wee-willy-winky
how does this sound
veg them till going on holiday
full dark for a week
and put into flower when your mate gets back... simples tst lol.gif
toker316
cheers, both good ideas.

so provided the process only takes about 8 weeks it doesnt really matter how its done. we just didnt know if 18/6 for 8wks would provide some massive plants that could be used. seems you guys think veg for 3wks and flower for 5 would be the way tho cool.gif

if we decided to forget making hash for now and just grew the plants till the end..do you think a week in the dark will cause problems, like make em rot or turn hermie??
Grimweeder
a week in the dark should be fine but youl need extraction an ventilation to prevent mold, an a good water before hand.
Tutu
Week in the dark, they'll be fine I once took a male out the grow room and it had 28 days of dark I watered it and put it back in it was fine next day. Then I killed it.
bakedbean
QUOTE (toker316 @ Oct 18 2009, 09:28 PM) *
cheers, both good ideas.

so provided the process only takes about 8 weeks it doesnt really matter how its done. we just didnt know if 18/6 for 8wks would provide some massive plants that could be used. seems you guys think veg for 3wks and flower for 5 would be the way tho cool.gif

if we decided to forget making hash for now and just grew the plants till the end..do you think a week in the dark will cause problems, like make em rot or turn hermie??


I think you are referring to the flowering process, which takes approx 8 weeks if it is indica dominant. You need to veg first though. I would veg for 2 weeks then flower for 6, then leave them with lights on a timer and well watered, even better with an auto watering thingy
Dopey - 420
Am i missing something?..

You get trics from the flowers not the leaves toker. So u need to flower them on 12/12 not veg them on 18/6. The waste leaves that people use are the frosty ones from around the buds when theyre ripe, you wont get fuck all hash off a plant with no buds.

e2a- get that timer on 12hrs light - 12hrs dark now!
Ganjaman
Actually you might get something....i made this from pure male veg leaf great for when you got no smoke. But you should just wait till your mate is back from holiday then flower them you will get much more to smoke

I actually got 2balls from 2 big vegetating male plants
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donjon
Toker, I think you and your friend need to read up on the basics of cannabis botany and growing.

You need trichomes to make hash, and if you let your plant just grow and not flower, there will be no trichomes whatsoever.
Also, you need mature trichomes from a fully flowered plant. There will be trichomes after 5 weeks of flower, but that doesn't mean they already contain THC.
You probably could make hash from a plant that's just 5 weeks in flower, but the result will be a small piece of hash with a very low % of THC.

IMHO it's just not worth the time, effort and electricity.
immoreorlessalive
i know i'm just repeating people but don't rush things you'll only regret it. ganja growing needs time and patience. early cropped ganja (whatever you do with it) will never be a patch on some full flower properly cared for ganja. round my way, everyones stopped dealing and started growing. this might sound good but all thats around anywhere is sub-standard early cut, badly dried THC-less shite. there is no point growing by your wallet or fixed time scales. it takes time but it's so worth it. either get your mate to leave you a key or go for a week of darkness. they will jump straight into flower when you fkip the lights back on and then 8/9/10 weeks you'll have a proper crop of ganja to enjoy
Goodtimes247
QUOTE (Tutu @ Oct 19 2009, 12:44 AM) *
Week in the dark, they'll be fine I once took a male out the grow room and it had 28 days of dark I watered it and put it back in it was fine next day. Then I killed it.


nea.gif rofl.gif Bit of an odd experiment that isn't it mate?
treeofsatta
QUOTE (Goodtimes247 @ Oct 19 2009, 11:08 AM) *
nea.gif rofl.gif Bit of an odd experiment that isn't it mate?


I guessing it wasn't intentional!

Damn it Ganjaman I should've made some hash from my males. I must've killed 30 male plants almost all of which were bigger than 5ft!!!! I could've made a load of that hash!
toker316
i wish this thread hadnt been started now lol.gif

its not the first time my mates grown so he knows what hes doing. its just making hash is a whole new thing and we thought that with alot of material there might be a way to make some. I mean if you look a close look at a plant thats been in veg for ages there is usually some small crystals. besides that theres threads on here about using stems etc and being stoned things got a little confusing. I also mentioned hash as an option because there was an old overgrow thread about making shite bar from leafs and stuff. Of course theres no way id attempt to make that junk,but to be fair it probly did contain less poisions than street soap.

anyhows the holiday problem is solved. they will veg for the next 3wks untill he goes away and then in the dark they go. we kinda hope my mrs will let me stay at his place for a few days and do the lights. if so they wont be in the dark long
grobag
Just to reiterate what others have touched on....

You are getting slightly confused between using leaves and stems from flowered plants and those that are still vegging.

When people talk of making hash and oil from leaf and stems, they are referring to that which is chopped off a plant that has finished flowering. When you crop a plant, you have all of the bud, but you also chop off a load of the larger leaves and many bigger ones poking out of the buds. Along with this you chop out many of the main stalks and stems. This way you get a load of nice bud and all of the 'waste' you use for making into hash and/or oil.

This is very different from using leaves and stalks from vegging or part flowering plants as the resin glands have either not formed yet or those that have, have not matured enough to contain many (if any) psychoactive ingredients. Sorry mate. sad.gif

It's not until the buds are fully mature and ready to be cropped themselves that the surrounding leaf matter and stalks will be worth using for hash and oil making.

It's also worth baring in mind that not all plants and strains take the same amount of time to mature as well. Depending on what strain it is that you are growing, they could take anywhere between 7-12 weeks on average for the kind of plants that are generally grown indoors in this country (maybe even double that if it is a sativa dominant plant you are growing). So don't work to a rigid timescale, but rather react to your plants and let them dictate what you do. There is no point putting lots of time and effort in over 12 weeks getting a plant through veg and to full flower and then chopping it 2 weeks early when it is not fully mature. The difference 2 weeks can make if the plant needs it is phenominal, believe me.

There are various ways to tell if your plant is fully mature and at its peak, ready to be cropped, trimmed, dried and the trim made into hash. The best and most reliable is to use a magnifying glass or lupe. Look at the capitate resin glands themselves under magnification (the stalkied trichomes that look like tall mushrooms - stalks with balls on the end). When over half of these have started turning milky coloured instead of totally clear and see through, but not amber coloured (I am talking generally here for most strains rather than the odd few that are better when they start turning amber), then they are ready to crop. This usually coinsides with the changing colour of the hairs on the buds, but not always. You can use this as a rough guide though - when two thirds of the hairs have turned from white to orange and shrivelled up a bit, the plants are round about ready to crop if you fine tune by looking at the resin glands themselves.

I hope that this helps and clears up a few things, and that I haven't confused you even more!

Ask away if you want me to explain anything in more detail or clarify anything.

Good luck with the grow and happy hash making if you go down that route.

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Edit: To tidy up spelling/typos a bit!
toker316
just a quick thanks for the above mate. thanks. peace
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