Sorry guys n gals didn't know where to post this but at Poundstretcher they are selling 5x14watt cfls for 50p and they are philips. They will only sell you 5 @ a time so i went twice .

i hear that you need at least 100w per plant?

Which socket ec or es and whats the colour temp?

Tesco's 5x20w CFL's warm white's £1 bayonet fittings.

I bought a fivers worth (25 bulbs) for my house, got so many HPS's I would never consider using these for anything other than cloning.