Hi Folks, could anyone say if it would be beneficial to finiish
them with MH or HPS, currently at week18.?

Click to view attachment OT1 Haze @ 18weeks

these are also in the growroom, up higher on a shelf
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Thanks in advance

appologies if it's in the wrong dept.

The answer is out there somewhere
but can I find it?

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where to look

Nice plants but it s not ready IMO, might get some more pictures to see it clearly or get a magnifier to see trichom condition...

pm OT sure he will now or Dubi from ACE,btw one off strangest looking strains/planst i have seen,but i never grown haze or anything over 10 week flowering period so cant really say is it close to end

here is general info where it states 18/24 weeks off flowering http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...l=oldtimer+haze

try here too http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...l=oldtimer+haze

good lock mate seems you are about to get some trippy smoke,use MH if you have

Cheers Herbal, can't pm yet need 50 posts and would feel like the new boy going to see the headmaster
so ok to swap HPS for MH for the last month or so. Trichs. aren't in great numbers but that's probably down to my inexperiance, but what is there is jam packed with pscho active substance,
great woodstock vid btw, turned it right up

Timescaper i admire to your will to wait 20plus weeks off flower you deserve a god puff for that and i hope thats wha you get


If it was me growing it it would go to fower soon as clone would potted,maybe a few days to ensure he makes it.And simply put 10 or 20 off them ,even pot them in flowering wich most will say is ridicules but with amount off streach that plant gives sure you would end up with nice cola per pot ,but that just my inpatience

As for Mh sure Ot recomends ,i had my doubts about lightning when i joined but he set me straith ,here a quoute from Ot /

Cannabis is a plant that likes the high energy spectrum, ie blue light, its worth changing to a 600w halide for the last 3 weeks or so of flowering, if the potential is in the strain you are growing, it will repay you with more potency and psychoactivity. /

So its due strain you are into ,thats why i grow all ugorg with atleast trace off mh in it,try sunmaster Mh i like it more than osram mh

As for 50 posts ,its a long night get down to bussines

greetings mate,and yea its amazing amount off briliant bands and individuals that were on woodstock simply stunning IMO.

Hiya Timescaper, welcome to the site

They look really healthy to me for 18 weeks flower Good stuff mate I'm no expert (longest I've flowered is a paltry 13 weeks) but if it was me - having come this far - I'd finish under MH (for the enhanced psychoactivity)

I'll watch this un closely if I may

Enjoy the flight

It's even longer with that trippy hippy weed
nice one Herbal many thanks
for those links

Little while to go yet mate

They're looking great. Now they've recovered a bit from your nute mistakes, I would go back to giving them that bloom every watering (if you haven't already).

Good luck for the last few weeks man! Get a little magnifier if you don't have one already, although it will be obvious when they're getting closer to the right time

Arbuscule , thanks for the warm welcome, greatly appreciated, 18 weeks in a cupboard
gets a bit lonely Yes they do look healthy but they continue to amaze me, as I mentioned to eri they looked like gonnas a while back due to various faux pass. You're more than welcome to watch, but be warned ,
they ain't in no hurry oh yes the flight , takes you far from the madding crowd, and comfortably
far from numb



eri, they've come on splendido since your help, see them long new leaves , they're still growing
and it's autumn, methinks the end of nov?
The question here was regarding MH or HPS,
Herbal and Arbuscule have sorted the question.

Many thanks guys, made my day.

Awesome man, keep us updated with pics!

And yeah, end of Nov seems likely dude. If they keep growing and growing after a couple of weeks, flip that light cycle to 11/13 if you haven't already

nice one .

Morning folks, would it be ok to use Plant Magic's BS on these or
would they stretch to much ?

Theyr'e around 16 inch and growing like mad things again

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thanks in advance folks

are you feeding these mate ?

Hi jiffa, nope, nothing yet,.... but I've just remembered I did add a little guano (powder slow release form)
when they were potted on.

They're clawing up a bit there man... Assuming your watering routine isn't any different for these ones, it looks like they're overnuted

I've not used Guano but it says online it has high levels of N and phosphurus in it. They defo. look like they have too much N. What was the stuff you added the Guano to?

Sorry, can't comment on Plant Magic BS stuff, I've never used it.

Hi eri, same thoughts here, was thinking of removing some of the soil , perhaps trimming the roots like
you do with mums but not sure what's for best
The idea was to keep them in small pots for a while without any feed but may have overdone the guano.

Any suggestions appreciated folks.

Just about to go to the grow shop
BS anyone?

First time i've heard of doing that. looks like i need to do some reading.

look ere Goodtimes http://www.cannabase.com/cl/pages/mums/mums.html

Timescaper,there was no need to add anything at that point,just potting would do fine/only fish mix in veg for me in small amount .So my guess is pretty much with eri/overdose off some sort .Really dont now would buying some stuff would help anything ,maybe just to change compost if they didnt root it out already and wait for them to recover hopfully.IMO but am no expert.

not sure how would they react on trimming/cutting half of roots at this point as they are suffering from OD prolly, and they are pretty big plants already,i never did it.Ask some more expirienced if you think to go with it.Or if you must do it with just one clone and see if he makes it first

Take a clone or two more just in case,they will need some time to reveg doh

Use fish mix in veg. in future ,its great foliar or just normal way. forget guano/maybe in flower its good but you must now in what amount per litter off compost to add it /i dont now its a strong stuff

ok 5th edit for post down / for mother plant care Bio Bizz Fish mix is best IMO look in that cannbase archive

Hi Herbal, methinks you're right but I read best keep 'em in small pots
for a couple of months and thought it was slow release guano
Read the BS strenghens the stems and such but don't know if it will
make 'em eat more as well.

other clones
ready and waiting

so the question is BS or not ? repot or leave
them alone ?

Put Q. about BS into Plant Magic section ,they will now better what it can fix.

About re potting i really have no idea what to say,just wish you asked beffore adding guano this would be avoided. I have never been in that situation .Check the roots ,how they look if they are fried there is not much use from that plant IMO.It will never reach its full potential once it has been fried even if you fix her .

If you added guano day or two ago id be tempted to change the medium as a last option.Personally i think its a waist off time.

Start again with fresh clones you have while you playing with sick ones and trying to save them...and this time just pot them in time or treat with fish mix.\

What are you intentions with sick clones,did you want to make mother out of them or flower them?

Hi Herbal, I've had a look at the roots still nice and white and filling up the pot, with only early signs of over
feeding I'll just let then be for a while,they will be topped for more clones, we'll see how they get on, from past experiance they are tough plants.

Having read several differant methods of growing these long flowering sats. I didn't know if they would survive for two months without feed, hence the added guano, just didn't expect it to be available so quickly, seems you can read to much sometimes( or not read correctly) but all is not lost, all the others are looking fine . They are all in JAB with added JI.


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Thanks for all your advice Herbal,
nice one

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One more with slight signs of over feed but this one has had nowt 'cept
compost....I'm gonna leave 'em alone and stop
worrying

Why were you trying to keep them in small pots for a long time with no feed?

And how does using guano help towards the reason you were doing that? I mean... if you added guano, you obviously wanted them to have nutes, so why not just do it as and when they needed it?

JAB w/JI is strong stuff anyway, the guano probably tipped the levels over the edge.

Give them a nice organic mix next time instead

Hi eri, it's what dubi advised once but I probably miss-read it
he did say tho' they don't like liquid nutes, hence the added guano,
is there a worry ward in here for nubes
live and learn eh

dubi certainly knows what he's talking about. I wonder if it's the combination of that particular MP and Guano that did it... did he tell you how much to use and whether it was for chemical MPs, or organic mediums or what? How much did you use?

I've been tempted by Guano, but as I think I said, I worry about the bats' habitats. It is supposed to be great for Hazes.

And yeah, I wouldn't worry too much man, just don't give them anything else

here's a post from dubi
I got lost in translation

"We recommend put straight haze rooted clones to flower. Flower them in small pots for 1.5-2 months, then re pot to bigger pots for the rest 3 months of flowering. It's the best way to control haze size indoors and to provide them with good amount of nutrients for 2/3 of the flowering."

It's a good job the stuff works, even at 18 weeks
despite my novice efforts

Oh right, so they're flowering too? I didn't realise that

That post doesn't really mention Guano, - did he mean to add the Guano on the repot after initial few weeks of flowering then?

And your older plants are looking great man, don't put yourself down! Or smoke too much of it yet haha, it will only get better

I don't know what he meant thinking about it
bit like a poets guide to haze is that post
it can mean what you want it to

bye the way eri , found a bag of trim from them taken ( at least 4)weeks ago when they had a prune
beautiful

Yeah man, I couldn't believe it when I smoked mine... absolutely incredible flavours and high, well worthwhile

Ou they are in flower ,good you mentioned now i kinda figure that guano move

that's 'em in post #1 Herbal
on the top floor
looking rather nicely today Click to view attachment
touch of bs seems to have ironed out
a few wrink's
early days yet tho' guys,

take care out there.

ed.spell.

Looking great mate,seems all sorted by BS

e2a post 1 info is a bit upside down to figure what s what

Appologies Herbal, I need to brush up
on editing, will try not to do any more
upside down posts, MH sorted.
thank you,

No need for that mate

Any new close ups off haze>?

have a good one

No..


Click to view attachmentstarting to look juicy, with beautiful aromas of ripe fruit.

Nice. Thanks for the pictures mate. Always nice to see a haze growing away.

Cheers Blayz'd,

here they are @ week 20Click to view attachment
Still showing signs of ......?...early browning, dying leaves, probably to late to do much but be useful to know just what it is to hopefully prevent the same happening to the clones, any ideas anyone?
My guess is a root prob, but tis only a guess.

Another showing Click to view attachmentthe problem, buds coming on nicely tho'.

Nice 20 weeks in already Admire your patience

No idea on your question sorry

That would be my guess too man, I really wouldn't worry about it, they probably want more space and if you gave it to them, they would be too tall to manage

They look great, don't worry

my thoughts exactly. maybe give em a root drench with some essence or similar, help prevent/fight off any infection. give em any fresh soil and they'll start throwing new shoots out like a mad thing. i never give hazes any ferts with high N in, just mild rock guano tea's, don't worry about yellowing leaves to much, as long as they've got P & K the buds will develop, as you know, they really don't need anything in the way of N, just burns em ime. e2@: i also give em some potash, to help bring the K more equal to the amount of P, dunno if it's helped, but hasnt ever done any harm

Exactly what i've found man... this is why I recommended he only use bloom (which actually contains a bit of N anyway)!

These OT Haze are incredibly sensitive to N and can go off like rockets when you feed them

They grew up with some Kali Mist and Jacky White Arbuscule so the wait was cut in two, so to speak,
only a month to go




H i eri, seven foot aint exactly easy, but yes they eat nitro. like rocket fuel.





Cheers Scraglor, some interesting points there.




Oh shucks , I've given 'em some Plant Magic Boost today, after a drench with Essence ,thinking I'd best feed the funghi,
I'll have to prune 'em , just aint got eight foot space ....should they take off......again!

Thanks for looking in guys , appreciated

Pic of cupboard. KM, OT1 Haze clones in pots and the Harlem Globe growing variety
Click to view attachment it's getting busy again.

Not so much a worry eri more curious as to what's eating at the roots.
The over and under feeding was due to not knowing what the cause is,
be good to know incase it re-appears in the clones.
Any ideas any one?

Cheers

As we've already said, it's probably just because they're restricted, and not your fault. Nothing's "eating" the roots, they just want more space! I had exactly the same kind of thing when I grew it.

It's a vigourous land race sativa, and I'm sure it would be happier in the ground somewhere in Spain or California, free to spread those roots out as far and wide as it pleases.

As scraglor suggested, something to invigorate the roots would probably help them out, but ultimately it's never going to be perfect keeping something that huge in a pot. You aren't going to achieve perfection indoors with a real Haze, you have to compromise a little.

It's not really like over and under feeding, as that's something you can act on. If you really want to fix this one, you'll probably need to move to Spain

Start worrying if it becomes more pronounced, spreads or the other leaves start to show symptoms... if it's just the odd leaf here and there, don't worry about it

I wish you'd told me that before now ( maybe I missed it)

gonna let them roots be

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cheers

ps , prefer roast beef to paella

Well shiver me timbers old friend

You finally got them going then and they do look lovely, like everyone else I certainly admire your stamina and suspect you'll be handsomely rewarded at the end of it

I'll be following this one

Hi there Felix, the buds are well above the yard arm
'n been so long I can't remember
which way they are supposed to grow Click to view attachment
some looks like they's growin' down
due to being long n leggy like
I know it's foolhardy to count your buds before they bloom
but looks like they're gonna grace a few jars before
the year ends,.....er...I hope

cheers for looking in.