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Soul Survivor
hi guys

was wondering if anything worth buying out there thats a flowering booster for plants grown in soil, as like the pk13/14 is for hydroponics

cheers

plants will be grown in allmix
Electric man 2
QUOTE (Soul Survivor @ Oct 9 2009, 10:50 PM) *
a flowering booster for plants grown in soil,



Growshop superstition

You simply need biobizz grow and bloom, no boost follow the OT feed chart

Easy peasy
Soul Survivor
can you give me a link to his chart pls
181
B.A.C do an organic PK13/14.
Soul Survivor
QUOTE (181 @ Oct 9 2009, 11:03 PM) *
B.A.C do an organic PK13/14.



was just reading upon this

couldi use it in conjunction with bb grow and bloom
Grimweeder
i use it in organics anyway just normal cannal pk13/14 it works fine the plants seem to like it, you only feed for a week anyways so it doesnt bother me if its organic or not, it ends up only bein fed it 2 maybe 3 times
being using it for a few years, i usually use it in coco an not organics but am often using it in allmix aswell an organics just lately an it still seems to work fine
Scribb|e
Bone Meal works as a soil additive that boosts Phosphorous and Potassium - contains a fair bit of Calcium, too - it is quite alkaline, however, and needs to be rotted down by a microherd before the plants can use it. wink1.gif
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Halfatree
I've been using the stuff advertised at the bottom of the page as my boost... Called Bloombastic by Atami..

Seems to make a good difference.. and is supposed to be a little stronger than PK 13/14 .. off the head I think has a 18/19 pk ratio, along with lots of other goodies in there.. Don't think its organic though and is quite expensive..

Edited to say.. it works in all mediums.. soil and hydro..
Tutu
What's worng with plant magic

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=186804

I can't say what factor is making my grow my most successful yet but I defintely noticed a difference when I added the bloom boost.
Scribb|e
¿Who said there was anything wrong with PM? unsure.gif

The only think I can think of is that it's not organic AFAIK. wink1.gif
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181
I used plant magic bloom boost there and it seemed very good, i didnt mention before because this was in the organic section i think.
mr rhino
I use piranah+tarantula and see good results.
bizzaro73
grower ark do a bloom boost pk 13/14.
Reckons its soil or hydro,..ya just dose differently.
sky
QUOTE (Electric man 2 @ Oct 9 2009, 11:02 PM) *
Growshop superstition

You simply need biobizz grow and bloom, no boost follow the OT feed chart

Easy peasy


its not superstition if it works , g+b isn't the only thing you need for all people.
eri
Boosting may result in higher yield, but it's likely to negatively affect the taste of your bud.

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its not superstition if it works , g+b isn't the only thing you need for all people.

It's all you need thumbsup.gif
Grimweeder
yea pk13/14 had been proven to work an give better results but as eri said it can have a negative on the taste especially if you dont flush well enough
some of the expensive boosters dont actually make any difference ort not much for the cash paid for em but pk is the one that many people use an its not expensive
sky
QUOTE (eri @ Oct 10 2009, 10:09 PM) *
Boosting may result in higher yield, but it's likely to negatively affect the taste of your bud.


It's all you need thumbsup.gif



don't forget the epsoms!!!!!! lol.gif

OT's preferred method isn't the be all and end all of canna growing ! wink.gif
if like a lot of people you want a little more from your plants then why not use proven additives? ..... oh, the taste thing! but then 99% of the time with small scale growers its irrelevant as most wouldnt tell the difference and it's burnt way before it gets a chance to cure anyway rofl.gif
eri
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oh, the taste thing! but then 99% of the time with small scale growers its irrelevant as most wouldnt tell the difference and it's burnt way before it gets a chance to cure anyway

I disagree man, I think anyone could tell the difference. There's a distinct and unpleasant aftertaste that just doesn't seem to exist otherwise.

Each to their own though, we can all grow in whatever way we like wink1.gif
Arnold Layne
I have been testing Plant magic's "Bloom Boost". It has certainly given me denser, chunkier buds. I shall be flushing soon, harvest in 2 weeks. It'll be interesting to see how the smell/taste and kick have been effected by it.
Tutu
Never used a booster before but a good flush I'm sure it'll be fine, Pretty certain most commercial crops in the dam will be grown with pk13/14 boosters and they taste fine to me.

Still going to better than the dog weed going around (My mate asked why I call it dog weed, because it tastes like a dog pissed on it!)

My experience is similar to arnie's but only at day 28 today noticed a dramatic growth spurt since adding it and the control plant I didn't use it on is obviously packing less bud on even after only 1 week of use.
eri
I will be tuning in for that smoke report Arnold.

I know you can't fully flush chemical ferts out of soil (only soluble salts, isn't it?) so I'm guessing you're not going to be too impressed... but I guess it depends how much of the nutes the plant metabolises before the finish?

All I know for sure is that after smoking some organic pot and trying some non organic after, I told myself never again... but i'm sure it depends more than partly on how well you guess what the plant is going to use up.
sky
QUOTE (eri @ Oct 11 2009, 09:56 AM) *
I disagree man, I think anyone could tell the difference. There's a distinct and unpleasant aftertaste that just doesn't seem to exist otherwise.

Each to their own though, we can all grow in whatever way we like wink1.gif



i think the chemicals you get from the baccy mix will hide any pk taste issues lol.gif . seriously though as tutu points out compared to most of the commercial junk going about its going to taste like it was picked from the garden of eden lol.gif
eri
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i think the chemicals you get from the baccy mix will hide any pk taste issues

It would if I used baccy wink1.gif

Another excellent reason for smoking pure smile.gif
Arnold Layne
Eri
I don't agree - I've got a friend who grows non-organic and if you place his weed next to my organic grown weed, there is no difference. Taste and smell are the same. Properly done, chemical grows are no different from organic ones wink1.gif And badly grown organic crops can taste just as vile as badly grown non-organic crops too.
I prefer organic, solely on ethical grounds really.

I found that my last crop burned and tasted poorly. That was due to over-use of Bio-silicon; I had not noted the flush advice, and had also over-dosed quite badly through stupidity. I've smoked weed grown properly with the same product, and it tasted divine!

Afaik, chemical salts can be flushed from the compost. But they cannot be flushed from the plant, once the plants has taken them up, that's it. Flushing in compost simply means that no more is taken up, and that the salt load in the compost is diluted and flushed out slowly. That's my understanding, but be aware I am no scientific grower, I grow by instinct and feel.

Given that a decent aroma and taste is as important and maybe even more important than raw power in the hit for me, this is a hugely important test. If I've cocked up, or if PM products are less than said on the tin and result in acrid aroma and bitter/sharp taste, then the crop is fekked. I'll still smoke it, of course. But it will be, IMO, a crop of crap. I am very, very picky about my pot, and very stern in judging it. I take no prisoners, I accept no imperfect taste of smell. PM have taken a huge gamble asking me to test these products, and I'm well impressed with their balls for that yes.gif They've asked an essentially organic grower to test it, when asking me. I think that says a lot about them and their confidence.

wink1.gif See you at the Smoke report stage, then! smile.gif
eri
Yeah, that is exactly what I meant by judging the quantity of nutes the plant will need... the non organic stuff I had was probably not grown very precisely at all.

I think you can flush soluble salts from the medium, but is that all the chem. fert is? I dunno...

I've read a few of your smoke reports in the past, I'm sure you will be discerning and give us the full story. Looking forward to it thumbsup.gif
sky
QUOTE (eri @ Oct 11 2009, 10:52 AM) *
It would if I used baccy wink1.gif

Another excellent reason for smoking pure smile.gif


lol.gif i smoked a good bit of last years outdoors pure and it was so much better than mixed! but i've taken my tolerance right down \/ and don't want to go back up.
Tutu
QUOTE (sky @ Oct 11 2009, 10:51 AM) *
i think the chemicals you get from the baccy mix will hide any pk taste issues lol.gif . seriously though as tutu points out compared to most of the commercial junk going about its going to taste like it was picked from the garden of eden lol.gif


My mate scored for me last night, snap crackle & pop. I think I'd have to use it triple strength and then dip it in superglue to get my crop to their standard, it's so bad I'll end up binning it.

Garden of Eden indeed, I'll have you know Eve wanted Adam to pick the apple but Tutu had already cut the tree down and built a McD's there and the snakle well he made a nice soup.
dogzilla
QUOTE (Arnold Layne @ Oct 11 2009, 10:16 AM) *
I have been testing Plant magic's "Bloom Boost". It has certainly given me denser, chunkier buds. I shall be flushing soon, harvest in 2 weeks. It'll be interesting to see how the smell/taste and kick have been effected by it.


Yeah but what is making it denser? Lots of people claim they are getting more weight but unless that means more of the good stuff surely it doesn't matter? (unless it's commercial of course)

It don't matter if you get 1g or 1.2g if the end result from both is the same.

Very interested to see what you think as i know you grow for quality first smile.gif
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