Hello i want to start this topic so when i find good strains to cross outdoors in the uk i want to create a strain of my own thats acclimatized to my area and thinking of making a batch of feminized seeds so i dont have to worry about males or cuttings in the future.
ive heard the way of stressing a female till she bears male flowers to seed herself ,then using the pollen on a unstressed female to get feminized seeds but this can give hermi offspring.
i then heard that greenhouse seeds removes the male chromosome altogether some way and the seeds dont hermi .
so my question is does anybody have a clue how this is achieved ?
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Hi mate, it might be possable to make reliable fem seeds from home?? I think colloidal silver generator is probably what you're looking for/thinking of, do a search on google, might be a bit of a mission to pull off though!!
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hiya matey, yeah collided silver and to make 100% fem seeds, you need to stress lots of different female plants to see wich do not turn hermi, the ones that do not turn are 100% female plants, it is somthing to do with the genetics of the plant changing over a long period of time, but the true 100% female gene is out their somewhere. 
I thought you needed gilbraic acid to make femmed seeds?
sounds easy but the risk of them becoming hermi is a little high ? but then again this is how the seed banks must do it and they dont all hermi right ? or maybe its just the chance we take.
i have some feminized seeds from greenhouse and i wanted to cross them with a hollond hope so they will grow better in overcast days that we have here but will be stronger then the hope
but ive read that not to use feminized plants to make seeds from has they are more prone to hermi
but greenhouse says there seeds will never hermi no matter how stressed they may become
so by useing a feminized seed from greenhouse without the hermi trait and useing it for seeds will not have a problem of hermiing ?
last year i did a cross of a male thai/superskunk with and feminized auto ak i have a good 100 or so seeds
i grew 4 of them out and they were all males what a bummer could this be a problem from useing feminized seeds for seedv to that the ratio of males will be higher ? can anybody help with this ??????
i have some feminized seeds from greenhouse and i wanted to cross them with a hollond hope so they will grow better in overcast days that we have here but will be stronger then the hope
but ive read that not to use feminized plants to make seeds from has they are more prone to hermi
but greenhouse says there seeds will never hermi no matter how stressed they may become
so by useing a feminized seed from greenhouse without the hermi trait and useing it for seeds will not have a problem of hermiing ?
last year i did a cross of a male thai/superskunk with and feminized auto ak i have a good 100 or so seeds
i grew 4 of them out and they were all males what a bummer could this be a problem from useing feminized seeds for seedv to that the ratio of males will be higher ? can anybody help with this ??????
G life take your 100 seeds and be glad you dont have to buy so many next year!!!
They are obviously viable if you have grown some out already so I would look for ways of maximising the fem/male ratio you are getting. Do bear in mind that you will get many different phenotypes from these seeds in that some will be more thai than auto and vice versa which will probably finish at different times some may or may not autoflower like the parent plant.
The real trick is to breed the earliest flowering plants indoors overwinter to get a strain that will finish nicely in the uk outdoors which is advice which I will be putting into practice myself this winter
They are obviously viable if you have grown some out already so I would look for ways of maximising the fem/male ratio you are getting. Do bear in mind that you will get many different phenotypes from these seeds in that some will be more thai than auto and vice versa which will probably finish at different times some may or may not autoflower like the parent plant.
The real trick is to breed the earliest flowering plants indoors overwinter to get a strain that will finish nicely in the uk outdoors which is advice which I will be putting into practice myself this winter
QUOTE (Indicaderek @ Oct 11 2009, 10:49 PM) 
G life take your 100 seeds and be glad you dont have to buy so many next year!!!
They are obviously viable if you have grown some out already so I would look for ways of maximising the fem/male ratio you are getting. Do bear in mind that you will get many different phenotypes from these seeds in that some will be more thai than auto and vice versa which will probably finish at different times some may or may not autoflower like the parent plant.
The real trick is to breed the earliest flowering plants indoors overwinter to get a strain that will finish nicely in the uk outdoors which is advice which I will be putting into practice myself this winter
They are obviously viable if you have grown some out already so I would look for ways of maximising the fem/male ratio you are getting. Do bear in mind that you will get many different phenotypes from these seeds in that some will be more thai than auto and vice versa which will probably finish at different times some may or may not autoflower like the parent plant.
The real trick is to breed the earliest flowering plants indoors overwinter to get a strain that will finish nicely in the uk outdoors which is advice which I will be putting into practice myself this winter
yeah my plan is to find the auto male to cross it back with an auto ak to get a batch of more autos then find the auto out of that batch and coss it the another auto ak and then im hoping they all will auto flower and find the early flowering no auto and depending if its early enough to bud up in time capture and isolate that cross or cross it with another indca
i dont have the room here to do any indoors but can you tell me how by doing them indoors over winter helps them to grow better outdoors in the uk ? sounds interesting
QUOTE (wakenbaker @ Oct 11 2009, 11:05 PM)
yeah that's the info i'm looking for when i was looking on here about breeding feminized seeds i couldn't find any i must of been looking in the wrong place .
its seems easy enough to do but how can i stress my girls outdoors to see if they are hermi prone or not as indoor is not an option ?
QUOTE (guerrilla_life_uk @ Oct 12 2009, 01:54 PM)
how can i stress my girls outdoors to see if they are hermi prone or not as indoor is not an option ?
The only thing you could do is give them an hour of darkness in the middle of the day by covering them up. Weather this would work im unsure.
i could try that ive been reading that indcas stress less, i could just try it without stress testing them if there indcas
maybe none will hermi well im defiantly looking forward to putting it into practice
maybe none will hermi well im defiantly looking forward to putting it into practice
All this trial and error, when you could just buy them and clone many more?
100% femail and no probs.
£30-£40 for 5 fem beans, I got nearly 60 clones after 7 weeks vegging. Not bad for 5 beans.
100% femail and no probs.
£30-£40 for 5 fem beans, I got nearly 60 clones after 7 weeks vegging. Not bad for 5 beans.
QUOTE (Stickybud73 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:01 PM)
All this trial and error, when you could just buy them and clone many more?
100% femail and no probs.
£30-£40 for 5 fem beans, I got nearly 60 clones after 7 weeks vegging. Not bad for 5 beans.
100% femail and no probs.
£30-£40 for 5 fem beans, I got nearly 60 clones after 7 weeks vegging. Not bad for 5 beans.
yeah i know i have used cuttings in the past but next year that will not be a option for me so this making my own seed thing is worth it for me and its more fun
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