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2hi2try
sorry this isnt in the hash/oil section but how much gas should one put through your trim/bud. I'm using a honey bee 3/4 full i've used about 2.5 tins is it worth putting more gas through?

About half bud half trim

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2hi2try
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this was the first run
Mr Mullen
Very nice...

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2hi2try
thanks mr m but im still a little in the dark about how much gas before im not extracting any goodness
Mr Mullen
Do a second run next time, Just in case your missing some oil ....

Peace & Light

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2hi2try
thanks ive still got all the bit n bobs so ill give it another run
GreenNinja
I'm pretty certain that the oilmaster himself (HMK if you know him) says something about getting minimal return for 2nd and 3rd runs (something like 20% of a 1st run for a whole can...i.e. not worth it).

Don't forget to give that a good purge....either with a blowtorch, freezer or whipping, or all 3 smile.gif

GN
2hi2try
sorry GN dont know what you mean with the whipping, frezzing and blow torching
Weedsmoker
T get the rest of the impurities out.

I just wack it in freezer for a bit, let it freeze then take out & let defrost. I did this couple of times (not sure if supposed to do more or not Im no expert on BHO). More info in oil section on this.

Other people put on a glass cup mat or something similar, put a candle under it and whip it up with a match or pin. This turns it into more of a solid...often called budder.

I like to mix mine with grinder crystals (to make it easier to handle) and make jelly hash.

Whatever you do Im sure it will be great. Nice looking oil mate.

Weeds
speedemon
freeze and defrost 3 times mate to remove the butane traces, according to Grobag who is a BHO whiz.
Weedsmoker
Yeah grobag is the man at BHO, if he says 3 times then do it!
GreenNinja
QUOTE (2hi2try @ Oct 3 2009, 07:20 PM) *
sorry GN dont know what you mean with the whipping, frezzing and blow torching


As the others have explained....the only other one is blow torching, where you lightly run your torch over the surface of your oil (before you scrape it) to burn off butane bubbles. As you've already scraped it, I'd do a bit of whipping and freezing to get it clean of butane.

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GN
2hi2try
all clear now thanks for the advice guys
Ganjaman
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2hi2try
a little update i tried another 2 cans through the bud/trim and got nothing worth mentioning. As for the smoke its very nice gives you that insta-hit feeling, not sure how other folks smoke it but i've been putting a blob on a joint a tipping it down as i take a drag, didn't fancy putting it on some tin foil rofl.gif

i also didn't scrape all the bits from the side of the rounded pirex lid untill it was dry n crystaly and its like hard toffe now
judd77
QUOTE (2hi2try @ Oct 8 2009, 06:32 PM) *
a little update i tried another 2 cans through the bud/trim and got nothing worth mentioning. As for the smoke its very nice gives you that insta-hit feeling, not sure how other folks smoke it but i've been putting a blob on a joint a tipping it down as i take a drag, didn't fancy putting it on some tin foil rofl.gif

i also didn't scrape all the bits from the side of the rounded pirex lid untill it was dry n crystaly and its like hard toffe now


hippy crack it mate... put some ash in a bong bowl, add BHO and fire it up wink.gif

if you are having trouble getting the toffee like bits from the sides then you could try heating it slightly to get oil a bit smoother then scrape quickly - or even use iso

nice looking oil btw

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speedemon
QUOTE (2hi2try @ Oct 8 2009, 06:32 PM) *
a little update i tried another 2 cans through the bud/trim and got nothing worth mentioning. As for the smoke its very nice gives you that insta-hit feeling, not sure how other folks smoke it but i've been putting a blob on a joint a tipping it down as i take a drag, didn't fancy putting it on some tin foil rofl.gif

i also didn't scrape all the bits from the side of the rounded pirex lid untill it was dry n crystaly and its like hard toffe now

does it stay in liquid form then?? I thought it sets like a plasticine then you can just roll a thin sausage and place it into the spliff?
2hi2try
i dont own a bong or pipe, my lungs just cant take that abuse, i almost gave up smoking(green) a few weeks before i chopped my 1st plant. Happy to say i can load my joints now and haul hard, dont even want to think what i was smoking before
2hi2try
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the stuff on the right is the dryer crustyer bho, some was dryer than other bits but i mixed it all up i also think it improves with a little time
geeepwr
i definitely agree that it improves , in fact i actually think leaving it to evaporate all the butane , then mixing it up a bit (i use a pin), then leaving it to go hard , like the toffee bits in the post above , makes it a more pleasant smoke , easier to handle and better looking too.

Failing that (and im rarely patient enough to let it sit in the shed for long) mix it with the goodness from th bottom of a grinder , then you have a much more easily handlable piece which you can worm up and put in a joint .

(also , and probably because im a bit kakhanded i think if youre gonna smear it on a joint , use a bit of ripped rizla to smear it on then stick that to the skin you'll use , that way you dont rip the skin , and its much easier to roll your zoot)
peace
enjoy that blobby goodness
geeep
GreenNinja
I like putting it down a joint...and lots of it.... smile.gif

Here's a few shots of my various oil j's from BHO and QWISO....I personally prefer it this way....tastier....
2hi2try
thats the one GN the tip n haul, down for in up for out rofl.gif

although i like putting a big blob on a teasing back a fourth
grobag
Hiya. Nice results. wink.gif

Firtstly, how much butane. With a honey bee extractor they are not very big so 2 cans should be plenty. I personally don't like the way it all just drains stright out of the bottom so I use a container like a coffee pot where the trim sits in the liquid butane for a while to make sure that all of the goodies dissolve in the butane before I filter it. Saying that though - honey bees are less of a chore as there are less stages through it filtering it itself.

Budder. I'm no expert with this but I'll try it out next week when I crop and post up my thoughts next weekend. To reiterate what I've said before though - I don't really think that I'll get on with it. I see it as a way to try to speed up the curing process and I've never been one for adding heat to speed up a process with hash making. But that's my thoughts.

Solidity of oil. Obviously it is more runny when it still has traces of butane in it. As mentioned freezing it, taking it out and tacking it about a bit and repeating a couple of times gets rid of all the ramaining butane. It is still quite hard to handle then though. As the oil ages it gets harder and forms a budder all by itself - I think a better process. Leaving it in the dish before scraping up so that it is in a really thin layer and letting it dry for a while changes it too, as you have seen. Then when you scrape it up it is in crystal form but warm it up and it turns liquidy again.

Rolling. I don't like smearing it on the inside or the outside of papers. Again personal choice but I don't think it smokes very well like that. I lay out a joint as normal with the skin, roach and backy/weed. Then I tack a bit of oil on a knife and warm it from below, taking care not to let it bubble - just turn more liquidy. I then smear that on to the backy/weed and roll it up. This makes the oil in the centre of the joint and it burns better. There are pictures of all of this in the 'hippy crack' link in my sig.

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2hi2try
QUOTE (grobag @ Oct 10 2009, 12:17 PM) *
Hiya. Nice results. wink.gif

Firtstly, how much butane. With a honey bee extractor they are not very big so 2 cans should be plenty. I personally don't like the way it all just drains stright out of the bottom so I use a container like a coffee pot where the trim sits in the liquid butane for a while to make sure that all of the goodies dissolve in the butane before I filter it. Saying that though - honey bees are less of a chore as there are less stages through it filtering it itself.

Budder. I'm no expert with this but I'll try it out next week when I crop and post up my thoughts next weekend. To reiterate what I've said before though - I don't really think that I'll get on with it. I see it as a way to try to speed up the curing process and I've never been one for adding heat to speed up a process with hash making. But that's my thoughts.

Solidity of oil. Obviously it is more runny when it still has traces of butane in it. As mentioned freezing it, taking it out and tacking it about a bit and repeating a couple of times gets rid of all the ramaining butane. It is still quite hard to handle then though. As the oil ages it gets harder and forms a budder all by itself - I think a better process. Leaving it in the dish before scraping up so that it is in a really thin layer and letting it dry for a while changes it too, as you have seen. Then when you scrape it up it is in crystal form but warm it up and it turns liquidy again.

Rolling. I don't like smearing it on the inside or the outside of papers. Again personal choice but I don't think it smokes very well like that. I lay out a joint as normal with the skin, roach and backy/weed. Then I tack a bit of oil on a knife and warm it from below, taking care not to let it bubble - just turn more liquidy. I then smear that on to the backy/weed and roll it up. This makes the oil in the centre of the joint and it burns better. There are pictures of all of this in the 'hippy crack' link in my sig.

Happy oiling thumbsup.gif


tried smearin in on the inside 1st - what a mess. In the end i had to fold it over like a 12yr old
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