cassidy2004
Oct 2 2009, 04:04 PM
What size of pots does every1 use?
I'm just about to get my pots and other odds and ends I need for my 1st grow so was looking to find out what kind and sizes every1 recommeneds,ill be useing soil for my grow!
toastedsuppy
Oct 2 2009, 04:07 PM
there is so many factors mate keep searching on here and you will find i am sure
in a minute someone will put link to a thread for u i cant cause im shite on pc
toasted
high and dry
Oct 2 2009, 04:14 PM
hi
you will need about 3 sizes start them of in small pots and pot on to a bigger pot then do the same again to there final pots! my final pots are 11L 2ND was about 8inch and first pots where 5inch seeds were sown in a 5.5ich
cassidy2004
Oct 3 2009, 02:59 AM
QUOTE (high and dry @ Oct 2 2009, 05:14 PM)

hi
you will need about 3 sizes start them of in small pots and pot on to a bigger pot then do the same again to there final pots! my final pots are 11L 2ND was about 8inch and first pots where 5inch seeds were sown in a 5.5ich
Cheers dude much appreciated.
Just wanting to know what others use gives me a better idea of what to go for myself.
GreenNinja
Oct 3 2009, 03:02 AM
I'm in coco, so I typically keep my pots smaller than most dirt growers.... 3" -> 1ltr -> 3.6ltr.....or more recently larger pots....3" -> 3.6 ltr -> 6.5ltr (or 11ltr).
GN
woodbutcher32
Oct 3 2009, 07:31 AM
1ltr- 3ltr- 6.5ltr- 11ltr
Woody
compostverte
Oct 3 2009, 08:46 AM
For my most recent grow - 8 weeks' vegging - repotted every other Saturday (for my convenience)
Seeds sown directly in 7cm square (0.26 litres)
11 cm - (1 litre)
15 cm - (3.5 litres)
25 cm - (11 litres)
I chose these sizes because it's more difficult to repot from 13 to 18, and 18 to 25 ... the 2 weeks in the 11cm pots was a bit of a squeeze at the end. I don't recall, without looking, how well the 13cm had worked previously ...
Arnold Layne
Oct 3 2009, 09:01 AM
1L
2L
6L
hantshaze
Oct 3 2009, 09:43 AM
I only use the biggest 20 ltr ones when I'm growing under 7 plants.
Hantshaze
bushtuka
Oct 3 2009, 10:00 AM
15 litres straight in. no fucking about.
agito
Oct 3 2009, 10:04 AM
mate i either use 2 rule of thumb formula's for best results either a gallon for every month of growth say 4 weeks veg and 8 week flower 3 gallon around 14 litres or a gallon for every ft of growth, coco may be different but not 100% you will need to have extra if using perlite
syanide
Oct 3 2009, 10:15 AM
u should poy up not just go straight to ur final pot
R.I.P Tupac
j'mapplepot
Oct 3 2009, 10:27 AM
I would say you should decide how big you want the plant to grow, if your growing a sativa in a big pot you'll get a maaaasive plant (unless you tie it down).
Good luck with the grow!
bushtuka
Oct 3 2009, 10:30 AM
QUOTE (syanide @ Oct 3 2009, 11:15 AM)

u should poy up not just go straight to ur final pot
R.I.P Tupac
yeah i've heard that a lot but i can tell you that in mine and friends experience it has made absolutely no difference in the end. I do like to veg for a while tho so dunno if potting up makes a difference if your rushing things.
I get the feeling that potting up gives people a feeling that they are "doing something". How many times i've heard the plaintive cry on here " i messed up when repotting and damaged the rootball" or some other such disaster story. Some people just can't help but mess with it and thats fine. it's a hobby. Some people often try and complicate things as much as feasibly possible..again fine by me if it keeps things interesting for you. At the end of the day it's a fucking weed and is a piece of piss to grow if you have half a brain. I'll probably get some stick for this but imo restricting the plants growth, disturbing of root systems and messing about with the plant will more often than not be counter productive. Especially for a beginner.
Gets Tin Hat, Stands back

It's really not difficult to pot up, i don't know how the hell people damage them doing it

Whatever works for you though bushtuka.
Personally i like to get quite a few pot ups in, i use different size finals so my potting sequence does vary a bit.
cube/pellet---1L---3.5L---7.5L final
cube---1L---3.5L---6L---12L
3 inch pot----2.2L---5L---10L (or 12l)
I do like the pot ups
weedmonsta
Oct 3 2009, 10:46 AM
i usually start in a 3" pot them pot up into a 4" then a 9" then either flower in that or as for the 1st time this time round im finishing in a pot thats 13" across and 18" deep
bushtuka
Oct 3 2009, 10:55 AM
it is indeed very simple to pot up. i have a nice vegetable garden. do i keep repotting my cabbages up from 2,6, 8 litre pots? do i fiddle with my leeks?

no i do not. they are grown in seed trays, hardened off and go into the ground. some things....get this for radical...get planted straight into the soil. its a weed man. whats making the plant half root bound, if not fully, gonna do for ya?
e2a grammar
I think the difference with cabbages is they are not pot plants

If i was growing cannabis outdoors in the soil then no i wouldn't pot up.
You'll find potting up is a common practice for alot of gardeners (growing in pots) not just us cannabis growers. It gives a much fuller rooting in the centre rather than just the outside of the rootball. I've tried missing potups before and have certainly lost some yield because of it ...like i say whatever works for you
leepy
Oct 3 2009, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (bushtuka @ Oct 3 2009, 11:30 AM)

QUOTE (syanide @ Oct 3 2009, 11:15 AM)

u should poy up not just go straight to ur final pot
R.I.P Tupac
yeah i've heard that a lot but i can tell you that in mine and friends experience it has made absolutely no difference in the end. I do like to veg for a while tho so dunno if potting up makes a difference if your rushing things.
I get the feeling that potting up gives people a feeling that they are "doing something". How many times i've heard the plaintive cry on here " i messed up when repotting and damaged the rootball" or some other such disaster story. Some people just can't help but mess with it and thats fine. it's a hobby. Some people often try and complicate things as much as feasibly possible..again fine by me if it keeps things interesting for you. At the end of the day it's a fucking weed and is a piece of piss to grow if you have half a brain. I'll probably get some stick for this but imo restricting the plants growth, disturbing of root systems and messing about with the plant will more often than not be counter productive. Especially for a beginner.
Gets Tin Hat, Stands back

Bro i must agree with ya on this one iv only recently like the last 2yr or so started to pot up from small to medium then final pots but b4 i started doing it this way my plants went straight into 14ltr builders buckets as soon as the clones were rooted and to be really honest i CANT say iv seen any loss of yeild by going into the final pot from clone
willowisp
Oct 3 2009, 12:14 PM
This is something Ive never understood - why bother going up in sizes gradually, why not just put em in the biggest pots straight away?
Basically when you pot up the roots will hit the sides, then will start forming in the middle. As you have done this many times, the middle of the rootball is much denser with roots (you can see this when you come to pull the rootball apart).
I can see why people don't bother if it doesn't affect their plants health and yield. Less hassle is always a good thing!
Maybe it comes down to the medium they use
Owderb
Oct 3 2009, 12:20 PM
Its a no brainer really....How can you water a newly rooted clone properly when in an 11ltr pot
You have a tiny root system in all that medium, so the chances of that said medium becoming stale is high, or getting a salt build in hydro
Plus the roots would stay sopping wet seeing that they have no size to use all the moisture
So the chances of root problems is far greater
Thats without mentioning getting a dense rootball from the off
Owd
Potting up means you have greater control of water and oxygen supplies to the roots.
Another advantage is you can have more plants under a smaller light source ie 20 3inch pots under a 250w hid rather than 4 in 11litres .
drfish
Oct 3 2009, 04:20 PM
I've had a situation where I went from 2litre to 11 litre, and when I cropped, I removed the root ball, and on a couple it had basically only used about half the pot. The roots won't go to the sides in some cases, so you are basically making them root bound. By potting in stages, it also helps eliminate this.
spankydemonkey
Oct 4 2009, 10:20 AM
its an easy experiment for n e grower, why not pop one plant in its final pot, and the rest how you normally do it with potting up, and see if there is a difference at the end.
yayaya
Oct 4 2009, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (bushtuka @ Oct 3 2009, 11:55 AM)

it is indeed very simple to pot up. i have a nice vegetable garden. do i keep repotting my cabbages up from 2,6, 8 litre pots? do i fiddle with my leeks?

no i do not. they are grown in seed trays, hardened off and go into the ground. some things....get this for radical...get planted straight into the soil. its a weed man. whats making the plant half root bound, if not fully, gonna do for ya?
e2a grammar
as im only new i wont say to much just incase i wrong but im guessing that after 3/4 weeks you have to feed your plants were as when i pot up i dont have to feed mine till 2 weeks into flower. I mite be looking at this wrong but it also saves me shitloads on plant food
drfish
Oct 4 2009, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (yayaya @ Oct 4 2009, 02:54 PM)

QUOTE (bushtuka @ Oct 3 2009, 11:55 AM)

it is indeed very simple to pot up. i have a nice vegetable garden. do i keep repotting my cabbages up from 2,6, 8 litre pots? do i fiddle with my leeks?

no i do not. they are grown in seed trays, hardened off and go into the ground. some things....get this for radical...get planted straight into the soil. its a weed man. whats making the plant half root bound, if not fully, gonna do for ya?
e2a grammar
as im only new i wont say to much just incase i wrong but im guessing that after 3/4 weeks you have to feed your plants were as when i pot up i dont have to feed mine till 2 weeks into flower. I mite be looking at this wrong but it also saves me shitloads on plant food

Bang on mate. I never feed til week 2 of flower. they've usually been in final pots 3 weeks or so at this stage. Compost holds more than enough nutes to keep a plant going for up to 6 weeks really.
woodbutcher32
Oct 4 2009, 04:52 PM
I always tear my rootballs apart when I crop and I know for a fact I get better rootballs If I pot up in stages, If I didn't I wouldn't fuck about doing it.
As Owd also says how long would it take a freshly rooted clone to drink 11ltrs. of liquid in coco? 2 weeks as opposed to 2 days that's how long, It isn't healthy for you roots to sit saturated for that long a spell.
Woody
QUOTE (woodbutcher32 @ Oct 4 2009, 05:52 PM)

As Owd also says how long would it take a freshly rooted clone to drink 11ltrs. of liquid in coco? 2 weeks as opposed to 2 days that's how long, It isn't healthy for you roots to sit saturated for that long a spell.
Woody
got me thinkin this, I sieve my compost, so wot if you didnt water the compost/mix (compost is usually wet, if its not, use a water mister and spray in layers as you fill the pot) and wait for the plant to wilt, surely the roots would grow to find water, filling the pot with roots quickly..thoughts
woodbutcher32
Oct 4 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (lez @ Oct 4 2009, 06:22 PM)

QUOTE (woodbutcher32 @ Oct 4 2009, 05:52 PM)

As Owd also says how long would it take a freshly rooted clone to drink 11ltrs. of liquid in coco? 2 weeks as opposed to 2 days that's how long, It isn't healthy for you roots to sit saturated for that long a spell.
Woody
got me thinkin this, I sieve my compost, so wot if you didnt water the compost/mix (compost is usually wet, if its not, use a water mister and spray in layers as you fill the pot) and wait for the plant to wilt, surely the roots would grow to find water, filling the pot with roots quickly..thoughts
It's a dangerous game to play imho. I usually water when the pot is almost dry, never totally dry. I reckon there's a lot less room for error potting up, you've got to be pretty ham fisted to damage rootballs in the process, either that or people are potting up to early before the rootball can hold itself together.
drfish
Oct 7 2009, 07:02 PM
The issue is more the type of root. Granted, you'll get some fat tap roots, but next to no hair roots coming off them. that in turn will not present as a root ball, more of a clump of roots stuck together with compost. A good solid root ball with have little compost in it. You'll only effectively achieve this by potting up in stages.
bushtuka
Oct 8 2009, 09:18 AM
2 things needed. 1.The right size pot for the job and 2. Time .
If you get the right size pot and leave it long enough it will fill out with roots. Obviously the longer you want to veg the bigger the pot you start with.
when watering a small plant in a big pot you would only water in the middle , not around the outside.
Arnold Layne
Oct 9 2009, 06:33 AM
I used to use the "one pot from start" approach. Things went wrong due to sour compost. Now I pot up in gentle stages, and find plants are much healthier and fruitful.
Why risk sour compost?
And no, its got bugger all to do with wanting to feel like I'm doing something. I'd rather be doing nowt, trust me! But sour compost aint worth the risk.
I don't think its so much about this method being hugely more fruitful or anything, its about compost management, and trying to eliminate all and any risks of pathogens getting a foothold, or compost becoming stale and therefore toxic. I view it as being somewhat similar to grow-room hygiene.
I also happen to find my plants are more fruitful grown this way. But that was never the aim, risk elimination was the what I was aiming at. And I find I've pretty much hit it, and as a side issue my plants are indeed heftier come harvest. Which is nice.
But of course it stands to reason that a gently potted-up plant is going to have a more dense rootball. And since roots = fruits, well you can work the rest out for yourself really.
I don't think there is a right and wrong here. More a case of building on the foundation of centuries of horticulural wisdom garnered from experience. Its not something one wants to toss aside casually.
Can one grow a plant in only one (large) pot? Of course one can, and with a fine result, too!
However, the risk is there, and one day the odds will not be on your side.
My money says, don't gamble, be wise
bushtuka
Oct 10 2009, 03:34 PM
Thats fair enough Arnold. I was just trying to point out that it's not compulsory to pot up as some people seem to say. The OP did state it was his first ever attempt at growing.
mr rhino
Oct 10 2009, 03:42 PM
4" brown pots for my little ones then straight into 15L
compostverte
Oct 10 2009, 04:01 PM
I think anyone advising putting plants straight into big pots should state how many grows they've done and whether they tried it the other way to compare ....
I confess I was somewhat guilty before I came here - (and me with 20-odd years' gardening experience - let alone growing this particular plant

) - but it was effectively SOG, and I was also diluting my compost with perlite - so the water didn't hang around long enough to get stale.

All I can say is I wouldn't
dream of doing it any other way now and I will be taking what I have learned here back to my other gardening.
(I used to repot - but only to save room in the greenhouse)
Tutu
Oct 11 2009, 11:12 AM
My final pots this time are 35-40litre wilko's planters, potted 11cm square -5 inch sankeys ->11ltr atami's to wilko's planter for 2 weeks then flower.
Never done better, the more root space the better IMH. I would never go straight into there final pots again because I made that mistake the first time and yield was utterly shite. (Could be any number of factors)
Pricie
Oct 11 2009, 06:34 PM
5ltr for me.
its all about the space you have and the size of plant you can manage.
Much like a goldfish..... they only grow to the size of there container.
elmingo
Oct 11 2009, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (bushtuka @ Oct 3 2009, 11:00 AM)

15 litres straight in. no fucking about.
I must have read this thread 5 times and i still lmao at that
Thanks dude
Not being a bitch bud ,just like the way you said it

e2a I grow and flower in the same room and dont grow feminized .
I start usually with 12 seedlings and finish in 11 ltr ,but i dont have room for 12x11ltr pots so have to pot up.
Works for me!
dogzilla
Oct 19 2009, 04:20 PM
My first grow I went straight into 10litre pots and they worked out fine. Obviously didn't put 2-3 litres of water in, I watered around the stem area only so I didn't have 10litres of soil just getting manky and old.
Second grow I potted up twice, and now on my 3rd grow I've potted up a total of 4 times. On the final pot up I literally had complete white all around pot... probably left it a bit too long but now the root's are completely fat and strong. So hopefully works out well

Using 11litr pots.
Stealth67
Oct 19 2009, 06:43 PM
25L pots and 4 weeks vegging under the big HP's.
troy
Oct 20 2009, 09:27 AM
jiffy - 4" - 6 1/2 litres (wilma type)
i finish in 6 1/2 litre pots and am finding they get stressed and a bit yellow after potting up. However after two weeks they are nice and green and raring to go. When i used 11 litres pots i found they didnt use up the space in the coco and it seemed a waste of medium. I would rather have a nursery with small pots that needs less light and space and then move to a different area. I would imagine its easier to overwater with large pots and restrict oxygen supply to the roots.
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