I am a middle aged woman and am disabled by chronic ill health. My life was never spent in the traditional ways of home and raising a family as you might expect of a woman my age. I was always too much of a free spirit to really stay put long enough. But a rule I lived by – no matter where or when – was to always try to be respectful of others and lead an honest life. Now, because of illness I am a criminal who breaks the law daily.

In 1995 I was diagnosed with M.E…. Five years later, after being critically ill with meningitis/septicaemia, I began experiencing worsening neurological symptoms. I had (and still have) poor balance, poor coordination, cognitive problems, burning and electric shocks in my limbs and face, vertigo, sleep disorder, muscle fatigue, muscle spasms, muscle contractions, bowel and bladder problems, visual problems, exhaustion, etc. I was living abroad then and was sent for an MRI and lumbar puncture. The neurologist diagnosed M.S. because of the results but further tests were “inconclusive”. Amongst other medications I was given a neuroleptic and an SSRI. I was neither depressed nor psychotic but like a good girl I obeyed the doctors and began taking the medications not knowing the negative impact they would eventually have on my health. Eventually I came home to the UK.

Since then I’ve been diagnosed with even more illnesses – from the autoimmune disease Sjorgren’s Syndrome to PTSD, and more. Last month I was told I have beginning stage Glaucoma.

So where is this long post going? I am tired, disabled and very angry. I am not so much angry at illness as that is just part of life isn’t it but………….

I am angry that the one medication, cannabis, which helps many of my symptoms - especially the myoclonus - is illegal.
I am angry that for the last months I’ve been going through hell withdrawing from the evil neuroleptic which I never should have been put on. Why is it legal and cannabis not?
I am angry that to grow my own medicine makes me a criminal.
I am angry that because it is illegal I must find a way to build a proper grow space hidden in my tiny bedroom in my tiny flat.
I am angry that because it is illegal I do not have enough space to grow as much as I need.
I am angry that I am struggling with stealth planning of flat packs and drills and saws and electrics of which I know nothing about just so I can grow medicine.
I am angry because what happens if I am caught growing? Will I lose my DLA or my flat?
I am angry because I should be able to go to the chemist today and pick up my prescription for cannabis.
I am angry at the medical profession.
I am angry at the pharmaceutical industry.
I am angry at the laws in my country which prohibit me from legally having the one medication which helps my disabilities.

Thank you for listening to my angry rant. One thing I am most grateful for is this forum. My life changed for the better the day I found UK420. Thank you to all who post here, for the information shared and advice given.

Just because they say your a criminal, doesn't make you a criminal. I would be extremely surprised if you got much grief at all for getting caught growing. Certainly wouldn't be turfed out of your place for a few plants. Don't worry about the illegality. It doesn't matter what they say you can or can't do. You know better. I agree though, it is a shame how things are and that you and others in similar positions have to provide your own medicines, while doing it illegally with risks and extra stress as a result. The government understand the plight, they aren't prepared to do anything right about it though. I think the best thing for you is to not care (mind you, this seems a hard thing for ladies to do). That added stress isn't good for you, or anyone else really but especially people with illnesses. Try not to care. Do what you know is right for you. Your not a criminal and your doing nothing wrong, morally, ethically or in any other way. I understand your anger and share in huge doses of that myself. Not really for me either. More for you and people like you who are in similar positions. It's the government and all in bed with them who are in the wrong. I'm angry at them too because they have created and are sustaining a huge injustice. Just try not to worry. You would do well not to care and if you can follow sibs third, I'm sure it would do you some good. I seriously believe your worries are far worse than the consequence if you get caught too. Just do all you can to protect yourself and don't worry.

blayzed said it better than I could. If you set up a tent in your bedroom and take all necessary precautions, you won't get caught.
As i'm just finding out now, odour control is a must, especially if you live in a flat with a shared lobby and you don't know your neighbours.
So sorry to hear about all of your health problems, never hesitate to come on the forum and have a good vent whenever you feel like it.

Breaking their laws does not make it morally wrong.. Good luck

Hi Little wing
If you can find a way to let it go ....... anger is of little use in overcoming nasty symptoms.

here, cop an internet hug:


I just Pm'd you but it probably makes no sense!

Bad laws are meant to be broken.. Why obey an unjustifiable law that has its roots in ignorance, racism and corruption; when common sense tells you otherwise.

It would take around a kilo of cannabis to kill a laboratory rat, you would have to drop it on the rat. It is a plant, its not a drug, drugs are powders and baking soda and shit. You plant cannabis and it grows, and if you happen to set it on fire..it has an effect...

420 hugs all round little wing and welcome - it's 'their' unjustified law's not yours you rant all you want.

little wing ,
I understand your anger .
Id call it righteous indignation.
As the others have said , the best thing to do is to simply ignore their law.
You ARE NOT a criminal,
you are simply taking responsibility for your OWN health , because (some of ) the health 'professionals' you have been advised by have been worse than useless.
Do try to let it go , your anger might not help you as much as putting all your energy / time into something else .
I sincerely sympathise with your situation , and you'll hopefully find that just having somewhere to vent (ie here) may help a little too.
Big hugs from here too,
keep your chin up , and I hope your grow turns out well.
(Im sure a small space will be able to support your herb needs , just have a look round for advice)

REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT A CRIMINAL , THEIR LAWS ARE THE ONLY 'CRIMINAL' ASPECT OF YOUR STORY .

love
geeeeep

With your obvious medical need i really wouldnt be too concerned about growing maybe 6 plants in an organic compost, very low tech. Its arguably cautionable (with no previous convictions) and a moderate fine at magistrates court if they intend to pursue you. I fear the benefit outweighs the risk

I feel so sorry for the pain and suffering you have to endure on a day to day basis, i can only try to imagine how much anger you must have inside you. I too have never seriously broken the law before and feel racked with guilt from time to time.

When I do i just try to remember that there's countries i've been to where you are able to grow and use cannabis for your own consumption, and the beautiful city of Amsterdam doesn't have the problems we have in our major cities, it's filled with professional, well balanced, respectful people..... unlike here where 100's of police are needed each weekend to try to control the 1000's of drunken yobs coming out of clubs who think they've turned into Arnold Schwarzenegger directly because of alcohol.

I think about the human and commercial cost of the tobacco industry and the strain it puts on the national health service. I think about the fact that these are both big money earners for the government and both are legal, yet something proven to be less harmful than coffee but with the amazing benefits that it does for sufferers of so many illnesses is considered illegal??

I think about the fact that this law is upheld by some of the most corrupt people in the country who don't really live in the real world and only know the crap we're fed via the media let alone see the benefits. I'm all for law and order, without it we'd be knackered because of our own greed, but the law is wrong on so many different levels where cannabis is concerned.

I think about the fact that it's illegal is the only reason it has a value (financially and in terms of paranoia felt by otherwise law abiding citizens) and a lot of people are making lots of money out of it because of that reason alone. Why should i pay money that could potentially end up swelling the coffers of some crime ring when i can produce and consume far superior product for far less money in one room of my own private house and ensure 100% that no-one else is affected by what I do?

I think that i am not going to be told that I can't do something without a plausible/rational reason too. I think that you are doing nothing wrong, but certainly not morally, in fact you have much more reason to be doing what you do than many of us on here and like you say, you sould just be able to go out and buy it from Bargain Booze along with the addictive stuff that kills you!

Keep stealthy and safe and do what's best for number one. Lots of love and cuddles. SS

Don't let it grind you down LW!

Forget about the unjust judicial system, fuck em. Grow on, just be careful of odour control and I sincerely hope your growing is a monumental success as I'm sure does everyone here...

One love LW...

Peace

Hi guys........... thank you. Today you have really touched my heart. Usually I try to be upbeat about all this health stuff but this morning I woke after a rough night. I'd run out of weed a few days ago so the symptoms are worse........ and yes, everything was making me angry! I'm 7 weeks into flowering in the small server case so a little help is on the way eventually.

Blayz'd - you put it so well "Just because they say your a criminal, doesn't make you a criminal." which others have echoed. I did need to hear this because in my heart I know I am doing nothing wrong - yet and so why judge myself and my actions by their rules and laws?

For your support and hugs.......... thank you. I am more at peace, really, having read your replies. And I feel a bit more defiant and determined now - I mean in a good way - to do a proper grow in the bedroom. If I had room for 3 to 4 plants I should be OK. I'm not sure yet how I'll go about it. The bedroom is the only room which I keep private even from my part-time carer so it is the safest location. While a tent would be too obvious if the council or carer needed access to the room, I am looking into a wooden cabinet, height 83cm, or a wooden wardrobe, height 180cm. When it comes closer to building it I'll start another thread - assistance will be needed!!!

Again, thank you - you've given me hope and courage today. I can't begin to tell you how much that means to me.

Hi Little Wing,

Just a message of solidarity. I'm in a similar position, but I refuse to be angered by it, and I don't entertain becoming intimidated or scared by the authorities. We might be physically compromised, but our principles are inviolate - we refuse to be criminalised for our choice of drug. Nothing beats the power of standing up in court and telling the truth!

Ed

Sorry i can't do or say more to help you Little Wing, all i have to offer is my best wishes, healing and loving vibes.

And a huuuge



xxx

Hi LW...(coolest name on here btw )

It might me illegal but it is morally sound. No judge in this country would send you to jail for growing weed to medicate yourself with. Technically they can, but they don't/won't because they know it's immoral too.

So relax on that front, and use your energies to help make yourself more comfortable and feeling better.

Very best wishes,

GN

Little wing, I'm sorry for all of your problems, medical and otherwise.
I feel that your first post (in an appropraitely worded way) should be sent to newspapers to publish and politicians to read and discuss. If the normal people get to realise through the media that it is we, the normal people of the UK who use Cannabis responsibly, maybe the change we all wish for will come. Of course it would have to be an anonymous letter, and you'd probably not get a reply being anon.
Best of luck with your coming harvest. Hope it's a weighty one.
Regards, Jim.

Exactly.

You'll be alright.

Sure there will be loads of help here for you when you need it.

My best wishes to you. How about venting your frustrations here: http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...l=fuck&st=0!

im pretty sure that the people who made this law have a grow or two in one of their three/four houses that they have!!!!! you have every right to be angry but the energy can be better spent!!! i wish you all the best with your grows and for happy,peaceful days!!!! much love weedlover808

Hi Little Wing

I am sorry to hear about all your problems, like others have said on here you are not a criminal and you shouldn't feel guilty about it one little bit, if the law won't let you get what medicine you need then you have got to produce it yourself.

I read in your first post that you are planning a grow room in your bed room and that you are struggling with stealth planning of flat packs and drills and saws etc.

I reckon you would be better off getting your self a little grow tent instead of trying to build a room in there, I have one and they are really easy to put up, I can erect or take down mine in around 20 minutes if need be. I had to take mine down a few weeks back as I had a visit from the gas man.

I have a Darkroom 80 which is nice and small 80cm sqaure and 160cm high, the Darkroom tents are really well made and seem to be the best around, you can get them from Greens cost £100. I have a 400w HPS, 4inch intake fan and 5inch extraction fan, its just the right size for 4 plants. I always grow 4 plants in there, I top them all 1 week before flower which works great for the low head room, my usual yeild from 4 plants ranges from 8oz to 12oz, more than enough to keep you in medicine for a good wee while.

Doing it this way could make it easier for yourself and you haven't got to worry about carrying flatpacks and drilling and sawing things.


Cheers

SB

Hi little wing , sometimes it's good to have a rant , let it all out and feel better after


I really hope you can manage to get a decent grow on , this country and the laws
make me sick sometimes but you know you can always come here to get support
and help from the good people of UK420 , I doubt you would 'meet' a better lot
of people anywhere

u brought it home to me the plight of some 1 who needs wot i have for joy u need for pain.lots of kind uk 4.20 members will be only too eager to help u with ya grow to get the best relief from ya pain.lets hope that ya crop is top notch i better join in never gave a hug on the net before

No wonder you're angry, the law's , an ass and a fool It's ridiculous that we should be criminalised for growing flowers

Take care and all the very best with your grow

i am sooooooo infinitely cheered by all your support thank you! if i haven't thanked you personally it is not cause i haven't appreciated your comments and hugs i'm just a bit short on energy at the moment.... no wonder considering how angry our government makes me with their anti-stance on medical mj. but you are all correct to say - time to let go of the anger and just move on with a larger grow. the anger isn't doing my health a bit of good.... nor is worrying about what could or couldn't happen if i got caught.

so........... now to make plans for drobe or tent.

i am on my second wee grow in the server box which fits into my small bedroom but means not enough light, or space, or bud, to last me till the next harvest. everything is just way too small. however i am getting much better with the LST and am feeling a right dominatrix when it comes to tying the poor wee girl down. though it is amazing that it is possible in something so small to grow bud at all - no matter how horizontal......

if i managed this correctly there should follow a pic of the wee grow in there now which is nearly ready. sorry for the colour, the light was on which makes the leaves look a bit washed out. mostly what you are seeing are the small bottom buds of the plant with the main cola to the back right side of the photo ...........


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Hi Little wing, hang in there. Everything your friends at uk420 have written on here is the truth. If you take care of our own business you will not get caught, and if you do get caught your condition and the fact that the government so obviously fails you will stand to your credit and its v unlikely you will get a conviction.

I grow predominantly for pain releif and as a sleeping aid. i also live in a small flat. I also manage to grow enough to see me through 10 weeks while the next crop is budding and i do this on less that half a metre square. I do keepm my own mothers which i understand you might not have space for but i just wanted you to know that it is entirely possible to grow a decent ammount of weed in small space.

Stay positive and good luck
D

Hi Little Wing,

Sorry to hear about all your medical problems, but I'm glad that the herb gives you some relief. Don't feel bad or guilty about growing it. Those of us who know better know there is nothing wrong with cannabis. It makes me so angry when brain washed idiots start spouting about the evils of the drug when they have no personal experience of it, they just believe the propaganda. I am a middle aged woman too. I grow it to help with pain from a damaged spine. And I don't feel one bit guilty about it (though I am careful not to get caught). I don't believe anyone has the right to tell me what I can or can't put into my body. So lift your head and be proud of the fact that you have the brains and the guts to know what's good for you, and to do something about it.

Little wing, "it is a just person that disobeys an unjust law" - Plato,

Hang in there,

..... keep smiling littlewing and don't let em get you down



big hug to you ....................

greetings again

mygarden - i'm glad that weed can help ease the pain from your damaged spine. you are spot on - no one has the right to tell us what we can put in our bodies! i do regret that some years ago i blindly followed doctors "orders" and just started swallowing all the pills they gave me. i thought they knew best - BAH!!! the neuropletic really messed with my brain and body - and for what? it was a med i didn't need. it took 8 months of hell to totally withdraw and my body is still trying to put itself back together from it. that is what outrages me the most - while i am sure it does help people who need it, i didn't need it and this legal med damaged me - while a natural plant which hasn't damaged me is illegal.

chewie.......... going to put that quote here on the monitor so i can see it every day! or maybe it should go on the drobe?

hey rip..... thanks for the hug. nice to see you here.

organic jim wrote that he felt my first post on this thread should go to our newspapers and politicians to discuss. if there is anyone on the list who has the capabilities to help me do this or make it happen please PM me. i can rewrite it, add some researched mj-medi facts, or expand on it. if i could use my ill health in any way to benefit others, to help get medical marijuana use in this country legalized, then so be it.

Is Britain a democratic country anymore? I don't think so, I always thought democracy meant freedom and equality.... We certainly don't have that. How can a government voted for by the people of the nation DICTATE to us what rules we have to adhere to, it should be us telling them what rules they should be implementing. A government that has scientific advisers on the effects of cannabis, telling them it is ok to use and and a lot less harmfull than the cocktail of chemicals a GP can prescribe you for ailments, with massive life changing side effects. But the government chooses to ignore these advisers and they think they know better without any explanation to us!!!
Why is it legal to use alcohol and cigarettes? Both of which are the 2 biggest killers in the world of drugs.
Is cannabis more of a danger to society than alcohol?
I was on anti depressants for a few years and the side effects were so bad I had to stop taking them, as they were making me seriously ill, my GP just kept suggesting taking a new one till he got it right!!! Playing Russian roulette with my brain cells.
I don't mind if it isn't completely legalised, but for sufferers of serious health problems like the young lady here who has a very poor quality of life and the only enjoyment and relief she gets is from cannabis, why can't the government just let her have what she wants and needs. How can it possibly make her life any worse?
I don't expect to see coffee shops in my High street, selling it to any Tom Dick or Harry in the near future, but for people like 'Little wing' they should make exceptions and grant her, her basic human rights.

And if that twat David Cameron becomes PM we're truly fucked.

Here's a few of our countries laws that might make you think 'Fuck it' when growing weed:

It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament.
It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British king or queen's image upside-down.
If someone knocks on your door in Scotland and requires the use of your toilet, you are required to let them enter.
In the UK a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet.
It is illegal not to tell the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing!! (my fave).
It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament wearing a suit of armour.
It is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls of York, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow.
And it is still illegal to commit suicide .

ahhh, they're all pretty funny, but "it is still illegal to commit suicide"! fucking priceless.

Little wing, having read your post I was as angry as yourself. You may well be writing about myself, I have to say Bud has always been in the background within my heath care , my consultant didnt like it, but admitted it was not as bad as some of the drugs I had to take Including chemotaxins.

I have a script for Sativex and this was given for the untreatable arthritis I have, even states this on the script, the side effects of Sativex was

increased awareness and interest in life

controlled sleep better

pain management

enhances the allopathic drugs I have to take

enhanced quality of life which is a bonus with ME/CFS

If you got sativex it also enhances the bud effects so you not need as much.

Little Wing

One of the main reasons I grow is for my partner who I allow to have a puff on my Joint. She had a car crash 15 years ago and the engine of her car came in on her lesg and feet. She is only 45 and is riddled with Arthritis. No drugs help her and after a joint she feels a lot better and can sleep better. I also have RSI from being a Cabinet Maker all my life and working with tools have given me Clicking and Cracking Joints that are painful.

Our thoughts are with you for what you are going through and as we are both Directors of a company we realise what we have to lose if we get caught. But who gives a shit eh

We only live on this planet once and we are not going to let a bunch of Dictators stop us from smoking a plant and nor should you.

Keep your head up Little Wing

I can but echo and agree with what has already been said. big hug from Mr & Mrs Sparkle

Mainly though I agree with Arnie. Try not to be consumed with anger, it's self-destructive. Use it or let it slide and If I were you I wouldn't worry too much about the consequences of being caught. I very much doubt you would lose your flat or DLA, as others have already said.

When it comes to stealthy growing in a small flat though there are issues. If you don't have or can get to a separate room/cupboard/loft i.e. your having to do it in a bedroom for example, then I believe true stealth is very hard to achieve, unfortunately (also probably more messing about and DIY than you want).

To grow safely and well you need an appropriate light (I know you mentioned you feel your current light is inadequate) and ventilation plus odour control is an absolute must. The running noise/heat/exhaust draughts from this is very difficult to conceal in a small space.

I guess what I'm getting at is that even in a wardrobe or cabinet, all wood fronted and looking normal, will still only fool a very casual observer. I considered all these things for my current grow (rented house) and in the end I've gone with the tent option like mentioned previously by other members. It's less easy to fool a casual observer (impossible actually unless they are blind ) BUT a tent can be quickly dismantled.. they are also a LOT easier to erect than flatpack wardrobes and have all the necessary hangings, duct holes, intakes etc.

The only problem you have then is what if you have to dismantle for an inspection by the council or whatever when in full flower.. what to do with the plants. Short answer is there is nothing you can do.

I would suggest maybe thinking about getting a tent, maybe a full ready to go kit from say greens or something, and fitting a lock to your bedroom door if necessary. If theres no gas meter or boiler in there then noone needs to inspect or go in. If they insist get mardy and stall until the crop is done.

I think I'm right in saying that everyone is right behind you, and whenever you are ready to plan a setup that will provide you with a good supply of medicine there will be no shortage of help and advice.

all the best

Mr. Sparkle

For the one off grow I did in a bedroom, a cheapo security bolt saved my bacon a few times. The type that has a star bolt as the key, usually sold for added security on back doors.

They can be opened with a screwdriver by the determined but for our purposes they are ideal in preventing accidental door opening by a guest looking for the bathroom. A small hole under the door handle is all that shows.

Hiya Little Wing,

I feel for you my friend I really do and wish I had the answers for you.

Good luck,
GG

It is a massive pain in the butt when you get busted and im afraid i have been 3 times over the years! I use the herb medicinally and have always found the courts to be ok about medicinal use as long as you cooperate and its genuine. I never grow more than 6 plants and like you have an accepted condition.. God bless

Sorry when i said cooperate i meant you admit its for your self medication etc.. obviously dont snitch..

Hey Little wing

hope your feeling better,,,,,,,,its crazy that this wonderful plant is still illegal,,i know about sativex and stuff but you cant beat fresh grown cannabis bud,,,,,my old mum has a puff now and then cos of her illness,helps her sleep and reduces pain.I grow just because i love the bud so much,,

as for being a criminal well,,its not like i go round pulling guns out and robbing people or intimidating anyone.....no
all im doing is growing a plant,,,to me its like magic,,,watching a little seed grow into a beautiful plant that will help people with pain or just to help chill out.so i dont lose any sleep by being a criminal and nor should you,,,

all the best

high little wing, hope you are doing ok?. I would consider sativex and would say stuff the law and just forget about it. well to a point anyhow. I mean take precautions with security and dont tell people your plans, but let them nick you if needs be. I am also in a small flat at the moment and have just started my second grow, damn shame its just a small closet because I need the relief cannabis provides some of the health problems I have suffered with over the last few years. Following a motorbike accident theres pain and regular migraines, but the doctors just dish out painkillers like tramadol etc. all that pill junk tires ya out after a while.

this doctor swears that cannabis is a great medicine and works with gw pharma on sativex. hes got a point about how people in remote lands and jungles use plants for many reasons including medicinal ones. I also thought he had a point about the goverment needing to test other ways of administering medical cannabis, and how they are wrong to even use the smoking thing as a reason to ban it. yeah it may well be bad when smoked..but theres other ways to take it and they dont mind ciggies do they..ummm

check out www.maps.org/media/potpioneer.html and www.maps.org/mjrusso.html for more info on this docs work.

well if it wasnt illegal my whole flat would be covered in plants. but the mrs wont have that while its illegal. women and that common sense thing . over ruled on this one . she worries incase theres a bust and she gets arrested. she doesnt even smoke weed and doesnt mind getting a caution for a little grow..so suppose thats fair enough really.

anyhow we hope you find a way to get your meds. good luck with your future ventures, try not to worry and stay lucky.

hiya toker many thanks for your reply and the links - i'd not seen one of them before!!!

i'm going to harvest today it's just the one plant but i am so totally chuffed. i've got the next plant already started, ceres orange bud. i couldnt agree with you more - if it were legal my flat would be full of plants! hopefully by the beginning of the year i'll be set up for a larger grow.

you're right about not to worry.... it took me awhile to get my head around it. i'm going to stay as safe as i can. no one knows. not even my best friend.


m2j - thanks for your thoughts and support on this. much appreciated.

mr sparkle......... shaker, maryjane, green goblin and everyone............. thank you all for your ideas and support on this. i feel very encouraged.

They're not junk mate
Some of us would have serious difficulties witout them, because for us Cannabis alone offers no analgesic power. In fact, from a strictly analgesic viewpoint, Cannabis is a "junk weed" as you might put it. But of course, it isn't a "junk weed", and neither are prescription medicines "junk pills".
In my situation, its not a question of either pills or pot. Its a case of both of them. Remove either, and the other is less useful, maybe even useless. But together, they offer extremely good analgsic control.

Glad you find pain-relief from it though

each to their own when it comes to health matters. whatever helps helps, I just dislike some of the side effects from some of the pills. From the sound of it the over use of little wings meds could have contributed to further ill health. In others of course the opposite could be said and the pills help em live stronger and longer. Tests using marijuana on pain sickness etc have been carried out and most show weed is beneficial for pain, sickness and more. The analgesia tests are limited from what I can see and most results state that cannabis is helpful but only to a degree. man im such a geek . well whatever works works

anyhow glad you have managed to get yourself a nice little smoke little wing. take it easy, peace

Toker316, Yup, indeed it is true, "Each to their own" - I agree. What works for the individual, is all that matters. Which is why blanket "cover-all" statements about meds are so unhelpful.
Yes, cannabis is a pain-killer, but tests (and they are not so limited as you seem to think) have time and again shown that the analgesic potential of cannabis is roughly equivalent to a mild dose of Codeine. Now for day to day aches and pains that is great news. But for those with chronic pain issues, something a little stronger is most definately called for. I personally believe that when Cannabis is accepted back into the Pharmacopeia, we shall see preparations that contain balanced ratios of Cannabis and Morphine, because together they are far and away the Gold Standard of analgesia. Maybe even Diamorph and Cannabis for those with acute/chronic pain.
If you're a geek, I dread to think what I am!

Little Wing, I hope you post a report on the strains you grow. Doing so would help us build a valuable resource here at UK420, enabling medi-users to see what has and has not worked for others with their condition and symptoms

to be fair I should have made it a little more clear about the levels of pain helped by weeed. And yeah man morphine etc is strong all by itself. mixed with cannabis the effects would of course be much stronger. The treatments this mix could be used for would probaly also increase due to its extra strength. Personally I use weed to help with the migraines I get several times every month. one type of migraine I have is known by the suicide headace, or more commonly cluster headaches. Dont really know what the others ones are but they half kill me. I really really reallly doubt they are in the same league has say cancer or aids..but it is an on going regular pain, so I dont think I'm engaging in general chit chat. And there was no cover all statment saying yeah use cannabis because it cures every single problem medical or otherwise!!

Anyhow I dont mean to sound like I'm going on one mate. not in the least. its just for me the effect of cannabis is much stronger than any co drydamol or codeine tablets Ive ever had. tramadol is a fairly strong painkiller, especially when taking them months after month after month.. for what its worth, imho cannabis is still reletively untested. there a so many chemical compounds in weed im sure atleast a few uses have been missed. Even Doctors here in the UK ask me lots of questions about my views on weed, simply because some dont know and some like the first hand information. come to think of it I'd like to contact Dr Russo, the nutter in the link and have him take a look a my head. yeah he's a weed loving neurologist and much more by the sounds of it.

well finally going so take it easy mate

peace

No mate, its cool, you don't.


That's excellent news, and I'm well chuffed for you, you're very lucky to be so sensitive to cannabis.



My experience cofirms yours. I've had lots of really good chats with Specialists and Consultants, one even offering to hook me up with a "Chap on our street who sells the stuff"!! Same Consultant was "very relieved" (his term) to hear I was smoking only neat, organic grown buds.
One Pain Management Consultant offered me a hospital prescription for Sativex, but said with total conviction that "the stuff you're growing is much, much better". That, after watching patients in his clinic taking either Sativex, or home grown buds.

Today, my pain-killers ae less effective than usual. No dope to smoke for a few days, as I'm waiting on a harvest. Its a marked reduction in effectiveness, too. Same goe s the oher way, no prescription meds, and the cannabis is around two thirds less effective. But together ..... Bingo!

Between us, we have wandered well off topic I suspect. My apols to Little Wing - sorry!

LittleWing, how are you today? I hope you are enjoying a calmer, more comfortable day.

hey you're most welcome to take the thread wherever you want

thanks arnie. today is ok, i've slept a lot, which in itself is very healing. plus i had a walk (more like a stumble with stick) around b n q this morning and am feeling quite the little diy goddess at the moment. don't laugh, i'm making a carbon filter for the server box out of two peanut bird feeders, activated charcoal and a pair of tights. practising stripping electrical wires is much easier than dealing with tights! man, how do women get these things on? i know i know i'm a girl and should know!!!

but i'm of the birkenstock brigade..... these things sort of passed me by eons ago.

oh.... and the chopped crop from sunday is hanging in the airing cupboard. it was big bud but i'm thinking of renaming it big mistake. won't go there again.

i will take your advice and post reports on the strains i grow and how they help, or don't. i have two strawberry cough seeds that i am impatient to try next but have restrained myself till i get a tent. somehow trying to grow them in a server case seems way too sacriligeous!

3 more months till i can afford a proper tent set up. now, that will be a nice way to start the new year!

Don't you dare

strawberry cough! in a server case ye gods!


of course they are your seeds and you can do what you want with them. But I'd give my right arm to grow the cough and probably wouldn't in my tent as its only a 1.8m tall one


glad you had a reasonable day, sorry to hear about the renaming to big mistake

Glad to read you're feeling a bit more upbeat LW



Love it, I nearly bought Birkenstocks, but instead I've opted for Crocs. Never out of 'em now. I think when we all pass a certain age, we opt for the more comfortable footwear. I used to go everywhere in slippers, but they kept wearing out, so I'm hopeful these Crocs will last a little longer. At that price, they bloody well better do!

hiya mr sparkle.

i took on board what you wrote earlier - about how a wardrobe is always a wardrobe but a tent you can take down and store away. until a week ago i was sure it was ikea for me - but now that makes no sense. so - i'm looking at the budbox medium - 75x75x200. anything larger in my bedroom and i'll be sleeping in the hallway with the cats.

maybe with some creativity the two strawberry cough can call it home for 9 weeks?

oh... and i mistyped my big mistake. it was big bang not big bud. i was supposed to go for the big bud but ordered the big bang by mistake. whooops.