hi,
i noticed i had cobwebs in my tent the other day so went on the search for spider mites, dint find any tho. the cobwebs were quite strong n thick, does that sound like spidermites.

all seemed good that dint find a spider BUT, seen some black dots on my leaves with white patches then seen some lime green things crawling about, would ya say that sounds like thrips?

i thought i had these before but turned out to be springtales but seems like i have em now, whats best to use? im not in flower yet.

and should i get summet for mabye spider mites even tho i not sin any yet.


sick as fook of gettin pests, how do i stop em gettin in?


dan

pet a ladys tight on your intake maybe to stop them ?

i just use the passive intakes on the side of my tent, its got netting over it, mabye the holes arnt small enough

get the hoover out quick

what stage of growth are you???

you can use provado bug killer but only in veg

the black dots sound like they are spidermites.
as for the lime green things, i dunno.......when i had thrips, they were more yellow, and when you put your finger near them they take flight and move to another leaf.
have you got a loupe or pocket microscope to have a good look at the mutha's.

Hey Dan, Hows it going fella, hope you keeping all well.

Get some picks up Dan it will help to identify. Also i agree with Spanky the blackdots with white patchs and webs sound like spidermites, although that means they are well on there way, and have been there some time to settle in. As for the green things.. im unsure.. Get some picks up fella.

Sticky

good luck

thanks for replys.

@bigleeks, hoover? should i give it a good hooverin like?

@New Flow, im in veg, about a week away from switching to flower, im avin a look to b&q at weekend to see wat can find, this is what ive found out, that provado wat u said, scotts bugclear and westlands bug attack, which ya think would be best?

@spankydemonkey ya reckon spidermites then, ive not seen a spider yet like, but the lime green things were wrigglin about under the leaf, the was only 3 so i just squashed em with ma fingers. yeah got a loupe but not seen anything since.

hey sticky, yeah alls good, cheers, apart from the hiding pests, ha, ill go sort some pics now before i forget what did u use to get rid, if its spidermites?

cheers billybigbud sounds like ill need it.


thanks

dan

if its thrips get either provado bug killer or scots bug clear

ther kool to use in veg

i had thrips myself used the provado bug killer and all looks good

good luck m8

them fukers munch your plants quick time

heres some pics, the best i could get, the white patches have tiny black dots round an on them.


only seem to be attacking my smiles, after finally gettin 2 fems

e2a: cheers new flow, hopefully will get some at the weekend

That doesn`t look like spidermite to me

cant seem to find any pics of what damage the do to leaves but i did find this which is from thrips.

ya think this is what it could be?

yeh i agree, it does'nt from the pics.

danku.....you need to look at the undersides of the leafs.
if you see anything there, just watch it for a while, you should see the bastards moving.


if you can, try and take some photos of anything you find underneath.

spidermites are tiny, like pinheads, the younger ones are black in appearence, the adults look more red/orange in colour.

kool bro

that does look like thrip damage is there small caterpiler things on the leafs ???
there quite hard to see

but yeah if it is get sum provado or bug clear spray down

veg for another week if you can

then you shud be good

peace

thats all i seen on the underside of the leaves the little green things but killed em as soon as a sin em an not seen anything since.


an yeah new flow, the looked like tiny green caterpilers wriggling about under the leaves.

another week veg will be fine if needs be

if i see anything ill get the cam out

You wont go far wrong blasting them over with a mix of water and soap (fairy liquid is adequate)

All insects breathe through ventricles in their skin, and fairly sticks to these like shit to a blanket. Basically will suffocate most insects. And do no damage to your plants as long as you dont go silly with it.

Spray the underside of the leaves predominently, then a good blast over from above. Do this every morning for a week or so, and that'll help kill the fekkers.

an that'll be fine with the plants doing that yeah? ill keep that in mind cheers. i ended up gettin some westlands bug attack from b&q for £3 odd, forgot what was best, all the ones mentioned were same price but got westlands cos said thrips and spider mite on front, im sure the all as good as each other.....i hope.


anyway i just sprayed with essence yesterday cos had abit of a LSF coming through on some of my plants, avin a bad un at min , would it be ok to spray with bug attack today??


cheers


dan

DanKu
Sometimes its best to stop, and stand back. Before you spray anything else, try and get a real ID on your bugs. By all means spray the Essence for your LSF problem, but let's try and get a real view of the pest and whatever it is that is causing the webs you speak of.
So can we see, if possible, a really good and clear picture of the underside of a leaf that has the spots and so on? And can we also see a pic of the webs and how they are on the plant?
I have SBPI at hand in case of Spidermite infections, although I've not needed to use it for a year or two now. But it does, for me, work perfectly. Three applications, problem gone. Folks complain about it deforming leaves etc, but I've only seen it do that when over-used. It is strong, it works, When I use it I use it very very carefully.

Sounds like you have a recurring problem? If so, there is need to address that. It is important first off to kill all bugs. Then you have to sterilise your room. Then you need to ramp up your hygiene programme. Its amazing how many folks dont have a hygiene programme (= a regular cleaning discipline), and then wonder why they have probs like fungus and pests.
And then you need to ask "Why?"
But maybe the answer is not so far off.....

I never use nets/nylons or anything. Seems pointless to me, when every day you are going to open the door anyways. But that's not a debate for now - what I think is maybe worth thinking about is an inline fan to act as intake. Get more fresh air in there.
Ventilation/environment!! Its impossible to over stress the importance of this. Insufficient ammounts of slow moving or stale air in a growroom are a disaster waiting to happen. You need maximum extraction and intake. It was when I learned this (the hard way) that my growroom at long last began at least to look half way "dialled-in", and I began to see the back of bug-ridden, fungus covered, crispy and burned looking plants at harvest.

Hi arnold, thanks for the reply.

the only bugs i saw were the 3 little lime green caterpiller looking things which i squashed straight away, ive not seen anything since, and the damage to the leaves seemed to have stopped was just gonna spray as a precaution, and the cobwebs i seen dont seem to have come back either, the wernt all on the plant, the were more in the corners of the tent and odd bit on a plant, the next time i see some ill take a pic. but ive searched every plant when giving the essence and seen nothing yet.

not heard of SBPI, ill have a look at it cheers.

i do clean my room after every grow, but dont have a inline fan for intake, ya think that could be the problem on LSF, one of my Kllers got LSF an the mother seemed to be infected, ive tried to keep on top of it but thought i got rid but seemed to come back so was thinking that might of been the reason for the LSF, most of my plants cuttings end up in the same room at some point so that could be the problem also, trying to keep on top of it tho to get rid, but if ya think its my ventilation ill get a inline fan for intake. i thought it was best to have passive intakes for some reason, than to push air in, but dont have any reason why i thought that.


ill have another good look round see if can see anything, if not i wont bother spayin, just wanted to do it before i go into flower ya see, incase the was summet still in their.


thanks

dan

ive switched to flower now, cant seem to see anymore damage from the pests, had a good look under the leaves on all the plants, still nothing, and not seen another web yet either, so dunno wat the crack is. must of only had the 3 little green things nibbling on my leaves which i squashed. touch wood.

still having a few probs with the LSF tho. gonna keep treating with essence while removing any infected leaves an see what happens, hopefully will get it under control.

could be my environment as arnold mentioned, will have to look into it. i have my extraction fan on and just the passive air flap thing open, the tent is...cant think of the right word, concaved is it?? well the walls are sucked in so ya can tell fan is on, temps are from 20 - 27 deg C. got 2 fans blowing inside. would ya say i some little fans for the intake would be a good idea to try an solve the problem.


cheers


dan

ez now dan , had a sim prob a while back and used plant vitality , worked a treat , one treatment
of dreanchin the plants , also washed down the room and equipment with a lite soloution at the same time
and boom , thrips gone !


Farmer

Is the cobweb's really sticky and concentrated in one place and was the green crawly thing caterpiller like could be a leaf rolling caterpiller/moth. the black dot's take a look with a loupe mag glass could be egg's or poo egg's are smooth poo is lumpy it the silk is in one place look for a pupae
I had something similar a while back, http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...=195428&hl=

cheers Farmer G, think i might get some of that an clean ma room down when finished, or just some anti bacterial stuff.

@groovelick, that sounded about right an went on the search for a caterpiller or summet alike, but then found this cheeky fooker below ive had no more probs with the black dots since i killed the 3 green things either, hard to believe there were the only ones, but hopefully the were.


thanks agen


heres the culprit