hiya guys,
im doing a grow in the basment and its hard to find somewhere to duct to, the only place i can think of is at the end of the basement near the back window, but it will be blowing into the back garden and into that end of th basement,
hmm.. soo anyway ive researched quite a bit and was wondering if i got a few meters of ducting, filled one length of ducting up with activated carbon in bags,
and put a few of those smelly christmas tree scents ya use for in your car in the ducting too and hook it to a fan with lots of ducting tape and finally have negative ion generator in the room aswell, would that work at hiding the smell? (grow room 9ftx 7ft)

It`s not worth the risk mate.

No.

If you can't afford a carbon filter, then put your grow on hold until you can.

aww, i was thinking of allsorts like, venting into the toilet stack outside the basement ? would that even work?

I made a carbon filtre a few years back out of a bit of plastic ducting. some metal fencing, carbon filtre out of and Air Con unit I found at work it was 40mm thick and some charcoal it worked a treat and cost me nothing.

I've had a similar problem before too. Are you able to leave this little basement window open 24/7? Or is it like a little grill. If so you COULD wall mount some ducting to the grill/window. If you think people will be around, you could get some PVC tubing and put it up along side the house and vent the smells up into the sweet sky.

Also, With a room of (grow room 9ftx 7ft). You defo want to invest in a rhino filter or something. Don't skimp on it or you will get caught eventually. that size of a room can skink up a street, even in 2 weeks of veg depending on the strain.



Yes that does work, the viet Cong, vent into a C02 pump underground. If you want to link it to the toilet pipe, Put a small hole. drilling at an angle downwards, you'll need to find some tubing to link pipes to together ect. but it does work. Requires planning.

yeah 24/7 for tha cat , hmm yeah maybe pvc pipe running up the side of the toilet stack great idea!!!

a co2 pump? underground whooo that sounds good, have ya got any nfo on them mate? cheers

In your basement somewhere.. should be a slab-like-door on the floor, it might be covered by gravel or something. It's access to a sewer pipe. You might not have one, but you should

all the basement floor is sandstone slabs, so maybe theirs a swer pipe their somewher?
hang on in my back garden i have a big slab with two rusty handles on it..

not possible in my opinion...

yup thats it. I don't know what i can tell you to expect if you open it. but i dont think it will smell nice or look nice. if it's in your garden doesnt look like an option.

running PVC pipe upside the house is a safe option

right ill check it all out tomorrow and asess where the pipes going to go and how im goint to connect it to the pipe from the grow room without having ducting coming out of the window or somthing that might look out of place, i have to think too because the boiler is right on that back wall that i need to send it out of, so ide be fooked if the boiler went dodgy and hade to be replaced, the plumber would be curiose as to where the pipes going, tricky tricky tricky

You dont have to drill into the wall to mount your PVC pipe up the wall. You can use Zip-ties and attach it to an existing pipe already. Decently safe, costs like 3 quid for a bunch of zip ties

yep my first thaught was duct tape but that sounds much better!, im just lookin on b+q website to see if they do pvc pipe and how much im gonna have to spend thanks mate your a real help to a real situation!!

bonus its only £1.58 a length 40 mm and a strap on boss is £3.48, hmm so if i boss the pipe onto the stack angled upwards to avoid backflow then angle it to go in just above my basement door and attach it to 100mm ducting above th basement ceiling it will seem like its for the kitchen upstairs, a bit of drilling and bobs yer uncle job done!

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you need 4 inch=100mm
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a lot of fucking about going into the soil stack imho
a second one would look well suss .

and if the breeze blows the smell in a downward direction


Get a Carbon Filter

40mm not an option unless your grow room is a shoebox. shit pipe is way too expensive in b&q , go to a builders yard for it.

i did 3 good size grows without a filter (extracting into chimney) but its not advisable good advice in your own sig

nah mate, go down the junk yard or skip and u can find em for free and often better quality.

Get a budget fan and filter, google it for best deals.Much cheaper than solicitor's fee and court fines if you don't.

mate, a ton spent on filtering your grow is only the price of a few street bags of weed...
why risk it at that cost?
you have the potential of quality, home grown weed for evermore by remaining stealthy from the start..
dont fuck up at the first hurdle bud.
wait and save your pennies is my advice, be safe.Desmo.

if you put a vent into your shit pipe dont angle it up! you will end up with a growroom full of piss and shite

This thread is way better than telly!

Just to reiterate, save the pennies and buy the best filter you can get, its all very well doing the research but nothing counts for experience mate, unless you have the relevant experience and know exactly what to do leave the sewers alone its far more trouble than its worth, although running a dummy vent stack parallel is not a bad idea as you can say you've had a downstairs loo fitted, you will still need a filter anyway ime, theres nothing worse than the combination of a cold still night, late flower and no cf for getting suspicions up, a growroom full of flowers doesnt just smell dude it absolutely reeks to the intolerant nose, it takes one miserable weasel to phone plod and you can kiss it all bye bye, you just got to ask yourself for the sake of half oz or so is it worth the risk, just think of it as an essential like the lights and water

Rj

hehe thankyou

ha if i angled it down i would get a growroom full of piss and shite, i fit kitchens for a living so i know all about that side of things

i mean up in to it , isnt it in a basement?

yeah you are right experience does account for everything, i have been thinking alot alot about it and a good carbon filter will be my best bet instead of all the drilling the wind direction, and the fact that theirs a bloomin lintle above the basement door too..
is a 100mm carbon going to be ok for a room 9ft x 7ft full of flowering plants? or do i need to spend even more on a bigger carbon filter do ya rekon?

yeah its a basement but the soil stack is just outside the basment and i was gonna boss lower than the point i was going to take it into the wall to the grow, sorry i dont think i explained it enough my bad

- Not a chance in hell, mate - you're looking at least a 200mm maybe a 250mm fan/CF combo.

ot oh, im really going to have to save my pennies, i am quite suprized at how carbon filters work .. so theirs negative pressure in the room soo all the air is forced through the carbon filter.. but surely some of the smells should seap into the ceilings or walls?,
i really will be amazed with it when im in flower, kitchens extractor fans use cf if ya can't duct to the outside and they recirculate the air but i dont think they work too well.. but then again i suppose ya dont cook in a box thankya for that vital bit of information, how many plants can a 250 mm keep quite?

Phat 10" (250mm) Carbon Filter for A1 Fan = £190.00
VK 250mm fan = £100.00

£290.00!!.. arghh

i really can't afford that kind of money, id'e get my arse kicked if i spent that.. ooooooo what am i to dooooo

If you can't afford the big carbon filter, fan etc. Why don't re-size your room a bit? few sheets of plaster board and some black and white sheeting. You should be able to knock up a decent size box cheaply, Then you will have an enviroment that fits your budget.

Ok your not gonna be able to grow so many plants, but it's better than getting busted for the stink!

Good advice - The Basics of grow room design are that your fan + filter needs to match your light and space. They are all interconnected, and should in turn be based on how much you need to yield per 3-4 month grow.

Some rough ideas to get you started.

Space 1.2x1.2 x 2m = 600w HPS and 6inch HP Fan Filter/Combo. Yield 12-16oz per 4 months.

Space 0.9x0.9 x 1.8m = 400w HPS and 5inch HP Fan Filter Combo. Yield 8-12oz per 4 months

Space 0.6x0.6 x 1.6m - 250w HPS and 5inch HP Fan Filter Combo. (You may get away with a LP 5 inch or a 4 inch). Yield 4-6oz per 4 months.

you can get drobes from charity shops for £25 then you could use a 4" ryk100 with c/f to with a 250W. This would be a good starting point with options to upgrade. £150 would sort the lot just to start 2nd grow you might want a 400, use the 250 for veg and . .. . ..u get the idea

You'd better have a re-think and scale down your grand plans for the grow - a 9ft x 7ft grow room is a bit of a massive undertaking for someone who's just starting out, and I don't think you have any idea just how much a room of that size full of flowering plants will stink.

¿You know how when someone walks into a room or even a bar with some really nice dank bud in their jeans pocket inside a ziplock plastic bag and then someone will pipe up asking who's got the weed? Well imagine that x1000 for a room of that size packed with budding girls.

I'm afraid that negative ion generators, those smelly tree fresheners for cars or 100m budget carbon filters don't have a hope in hell of even making a small dent in that kind of stink.

As others have suggested, wall off some of your space, and work within a much smaller area to start with until you've got a few grows under your belt, and you've saved some coin to get some proper equipment.


e2a: Maybe a smaller grow tent in that space would be what you need to start you off - if you get bigger later on then you could use it as your veg area.

As scribble said, you can wall off some room, I did this also, simple sheet of mylar cutting the room in half. which will get rid of your light spread problems if you are going going to grow a limited amount of plants.

dont skip on carbon filter's, you'll end up with one no matter what

hmm.. i started with one plant as a mother in a cooker housing i got from work and it didnt really smell, then i put her outside on her regen in march and got some really nice bud, then some time later i had 6 plants in veg in a bedsit in the shower(i used the communal shower ), i used a re-curculating fan and the extractor fan that was in their originaly,
it only really smelled towards the end of flowering, which i came very close to getting caught when i came home from work one day and my landlord was going in next door to collect rent, i pretended i was looking for my keys (thinking oh no oh no) and he said to me "a few people have been complaining about a smell"(my heart sunk)
so i said "hmm thats strange i wonder where its coming from"(noticing a bright orange glow coming from a seam in the door!) then he suddenly said "hey i have another bedsit further down the road if you want to take a look",
and i replied "yeah that would be great"(shit shit shit ) so i went to look at it and told him ide move in their tomorrow, when i got back into my flat i had the whole setup down and all the buds in a bin liner in about 5 minuites , omg that was the biggest buzz i ever had heart pounding the works!,
anyhoo so yeah i ended up moving into this other bedsit for the same amount of money and it was aweful the kitchen had been their since 1800's, infact i nearly got set on fire when the fuse board started flaming, ohhh what a nightmare that was,
so the moral here is "listen to the experts!"
i really appreciate all of you guys help and i will have to save for a while to get me a carbon filter and fan i will start germination and get vegging, and by the time their anywhere near flowering i hould have the money for a carbon filter

Edit: oh and in those days i didnt have tinternet and that was when i bought my 400w and my 600 watt hps about 5 years ago an they still work well yey!

sounds like a good idea, you can keep them in Veg ontil you get sorted. and if worse comes to worse and you gotta keep them in veg they will turn into MONSTA'S!

if those lights are that old i would consider some new bulbs m8..... i thought mine was ok...then changed the bulb for a new one.. and was very surprised how ineffective the old bulb was compared to the brand new 1..

upsides for me with a new bulb were:
Faster flowering
Tighter buds
less stretch
more buds per plant
more crystals on buds.....
less leaf in buds

get em changed m8... your plants will love you for it

yup make my mother plant i had had a huge stalk on it and like bark on the stem very healthy root system i could keep trimmiing them and allsorts, but yep ill have to save deffinatly. i left my lights on first time lastnight too to check the environment as it is and i was worried about humidity becouse it was 90% all the time after lastnight though it went to a cool 40% lovely jubbley

yeah ill get a new bulb for the 400w but the 600 only got used for flower for 2 months so it should be okies but yeah your right they dont last forever heh

Filtered or not, you'll need to expel the stale air plus the extra moisture.

I once did a fanless test grow in the cellar, 8 clones in bubblers forming a circle around a 400w hps hanging vertical. The yield was pitiful, they don't need much fresh air to give you a decent yield, whatever gets drawn in because of the extractor fan will do but without any fresh air at all the grow isn't worth doing.

yeah your right ill hook somthing up with some spare soil pipe i have get some stacked 120mm fans in the end, for the time being anyway, bloody hate not working anyone need a joiner for a loft conversion?

Im getting the 1m x 1m x 180 tall budbox with a 600w and a 6" carbon filter - will that be ok?

yeah i rekon so after what bluepixies posted , learning all the time, their are some real pro's on here!!

just eat a load of beans and hopefully you will fart alot.. might cancel out the weed smell eh?

hahaha yeah that sounds about riite i could get my lass to eat some too and we can overpower it together haha

Brilliant

i know this threads old but ozone would have sorted the smell inline with the ducting