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Dr Trichome
Greetings fellow hobbyists

I am thinking of growing a "tree" of a plant. This is purely for fun, just as an experiment to see what the max you can pull off 1 plant is (and because i have a room 3.5m tall and its been playing on my mind). Im thinking along the lines of 2000w surrounding it (above and sides), 200lt (yes 200 ha) pot filled with a 50/50mixture of coco and perlite, and optimum environmental conditions.

I am normally a coco grower. I am adding perlite because im thinking of weight of all that substrate is gonna squash air out big time. Im thinkin let the bad girl get to about 2m tall before inducing flowering, and its obviously gonna be mega wide. Hopefully finish no taller than 3m (in trouble if does ha)

Obviously i am aware this is not gonna be a very efficient grow lol.gif, but im hoping to get 1kg by the time i saw it down shouting timber!

Whats your thoughts on this? anyone ever known anyone do something similar?

Ps Forgot to mention, think going with pure power plant for yield and sativa influence
Cambium
Lucky sod!!! lol.gif

Big pot....check

Big light....check

Big veg = Big fun!

Lucky sod!!! lol.gif .......3.5 mtrs 34.gif
mokum777
with that height you could grow just about any strain. shit, you'll need a ladder to check on it!
GreenNinja
Whatever you go for, go with something with good mold resistance....with an indoor monster even with amazing ventilation you've gotta be thinking about bud rot and powdery mildew. It would be a tragedy to grow this massive girl only to lose a lot of it because of the ventilation needed to keep it ALL well aired (i.e. a massive tree with massive buds might not be a great plan, whereas a massive tree with decent buds could be more practical indoors?).

Are you going to handwater this monster, or do drippers or something? (even flood and drain coco might be v. cool on this)

GN
potsmoker93
QUOTE (Dr Trichome @ Sep 24 2009, 03:19 PM) *
Greetings fellow hobbyists


Whats your thoughts on this? anyone ever known anyone do something similar?


Ps Forgot to mention, think going with pure power plant for yield and sativa influence


Iv done power plant with 1800w, well 3000 watt but the other two bulbs were 2ft away, infact iv got 1800w on one plant now at week 8, week and a half left, i made a drastic mistake however in my vertical grow, would certainly use vertical for maximum yeild. I basically sat the bulbs next to other in a row of 5 and expected the light to penitrate all six plants 3 each side, however the back of the plant got little light so basically wasted shit loads of light from not spacing the bulbs better.

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if you look at this pic you an see the bulbs in a row and the cola trying to get to the light, with 3000w my temps are only 24c because the bulbs dispuse very little heat unlike shades which warm up, had i placed bulbs either side of plants i would of got a more efficiant grow, as it is iv messed it up and proably lost half the total yeild expected from each plant.

Next one is going to be different, 5 bulbs placed in a fiqure X so each one gets 1200 either side of plant and the middle gets 2400w on all sides of the middle plant. lol.gif

Powerplant is a lovely strain and lovely smoke also, monsters, infact probably one of my favorites, this one is blueberry in the photo, medium yeilding strain.
potsmoker93
hoping this picture is slightly clearer, bloody infraview lol.gif.

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Tutu
Why not use a super wide pot, that way the weight of the coco will be less and compacting will be less, give you more grow height as well.

I was considering doing 1 plant under 1 1000w light in 4 foot by 4 foot probably using either 1 110 litre tub from wilkos only 1ft high but 2ft by 1.5ft with MPC and plant magic everything or maybe a waterfarm/aerofarm or maybe even just in the old amazon.

Using a tent which limits it to 2 mtr's but at a push I could build a quick plywood GR and get 3mtr's.

You really want to grow a tree go buy a 2000w MH would be a pain to actually make a GR that wasn't an oven but the light penetration would be awesome.

I believe you can buy 4kw ones as well, probably need 7 mtr height would be something else and I'd be using IBC's as pots, maybe the biggest bubbler ever!

I want
Dr Trichome
QUOTE (GreenNinja @ Sep 24 2009, 04:37 PM) *
Whatever you go for, go with something with good mold resistance....with an indoor monster even with amazing ventilation you've gotta be thinking about bud rot and powdery mildew. It would be a tragedy to grow this massive girl only to lose a lot of it because of the ventilation needed to keep it ALL well aired (i.e. a massive tree with massive buds might not be a great plan, whereas a massive tree with decent buds could be more practical indoors?).

Are you going to handwater this monster, or do drippers or something? (even flood and drain coco might be v. cool on this)

GN


Well ppp is good strong all round strain so should be good for this i reckon smile.gif . And ventilation and circulation are gonna be sufficient. should be fine on the mould front i think as long as keep an eye out for potential dead/dying bud terminals hich are probably more likely on a plant this size.

It ll be on drippers i think, got a lot of tinkering to do to work out how many litres a time tho, and dont think ill be running off on every feed, maybe just the last each day. Not really into flood and drain, especially with a pot this size because id imagine toxic salts may become an issue, cheers for the thought tho dude. I m still questioning top feed run to waste but think its probably the safest bet

Dr Trichome
QUOTE (potsmoker93 @ Sep 24 2009, 04:56 PM) *
Iv done power plant with 1800w, well 3000 watt but the other two bulbs were 2ft away, infact iv got 1800w on one plant now at week 8, week and a half left, i made a drastic mistake however in my vertical grow, would certainly use vertical for maximum yeild. I basically sat the bulbs next to other in a row of 5 and expected the light to penitrate all six plants 3 each side, however the back of the plant got little light so basically wasted shit loads of light from not spacing the bulbs better.

if you look at this pic you an see the bulbs in a row and the cola trying to get to the light, with 3000w my temps are only 24c because the bulbs dispuse very little heat unlike shades which warm up, had i placed bulbs either side of plants i would of got a more efficiant grow, as it is iv messed it up and proably lost half the total yeild expected from each plant.

Next one is going to be different, 5 bulbs placed in a fiqure X so each one gets 1200 either side of plant and the middle gets 2400w on all sides of the middle plant. lol.gif

Powerplant is a lovely strain and lovely smoke also, monsters, infact probably one of my favorites, this one is blueberry in the photo, medium yeilding strain.


Ha ha great! What u hoping for this one in week 8? Were you not turning them on the one with six? Turning them a quarter turn every 2 days makes a big difference to even growing and yield. I agree.... pp is great, one of my favs too!
Dr Trichome
QUOTE (Tutu @ Sep 26 2009, 03:36 PM) *
Why not use a super wide pot, that way the weight of the coco will be less and compacting will be less, give you more grow height as well.

I was considering doing 1 plant under 1 1000w light in 4 foot by 4 foot probably using either 1 110 litre tub from wilkos only 1ft high but 2ft by 1.5ft with MPC and plant magic everything or maybe a waterfarm/aerofarm or maybe even just in the old amazon.

Using a tent which limits it to 2 mtr's but at a push I could build a quick plywood GR and get 3mtr's.

You really want to grow a tree go buy a 2000w MH would be a pain to actually make a GR that wasn't an oven but the light penetration would be awesome.

I believe you can buy 4kw ones as well, probably need 7 mtr height would be something else and I'd be using IBC's as pots, maybe the biggest bubbler ever!

I want


Yea mate that did cross my mind, good thinkin but the root structure of ganj grows down alot more than sideways, so wouldnt wanna upset it.

4x4... so cropped with loadsa tops?? Sounds good! Aerofarm would be summit else, that could be the answer for me actually because im worried about the weight of the coco, ill look into it!

MH front..... im gonna go with 6 250's. 2 above on very slight angle, the rest up the sides vertically and space them more as it grows, keeping it as even as possible. And ill be keeping the reflectors on because there wont be any other plants on other sides of bulbs. Then when swith to 5 400w hps for flowering, all vert with reflectors on running up sides of the plant.

"7 mtr height would be something else and I'd be using IBC's as pots" Putting dreams in my head mate!!!! I f**king want too!
jaysee
QUOTE (Dr Trichome @ Sep 24 2009, 04:19 PM) *
Greetings fellow hobbyists

I am thinking of growing a "tree" of a plant. This is purely for fun, just as an experiment to see what the max you can pull off 1 plant is (and because i have a room 3.5m tall and its been playing on my mind). Im thinking along the lines of 2000w surrounding it (above and sides), 200lt (yes 200 ha) pot filled with a 50/50mixture of coco and perlite, and optimum environmental conditions.

I am normally a coco grower. I am adding perlite because im thinking of weight of all that substrate is gonna squash air out big time. Im thinkin let the bad girl get to about 2m tall before inducing flowering, and its obviously gonna be mega wide. Hopefully finish no taller than 3m (in trouble if does ha)

Obviously i am aware this is not gonna be a very efficient grow lol.gif, but im hoping to get 1kg by the time i saw it down shouting timber!

Whats your thoughts on this? anyone ever known anyone do something similar?

Ps Forgot to mention, think going with pure power plant for yield and sativa influence

ive been growing a monster all sumer in the biggest pot i could find, in my conservtory, so it gets even light i have made an electric turntable which the pot sits on and revolves at 1 RPMish i thoght it might be a good way for yo to cut yor light bill down a bit or just get better coverage
Dr Trichome
QUOTE (jaysee @ Sep 27 2009, 05:09 PM) *
ive been growing a monster all sumer in the biggest pot i could find, in my conservtory, so it gets even light i have made an electric turntable which the pot sits on and revolves at 1 RPMish i thoght it might be a good way for yo to cut yor light bill down a bit or just get better coverage


Nice. Well im using 2k watts no matter what so bill would stay same but good idea for even growth, which is gonna be essential. Any ideas how i could build one for this size? Gonna weigh a ton! Ha ha
jaysee
QUOTE (Dr Trichome @ Sep 27 2009, 05:13 PM) *
QUOTE (jaysee @ Sep 27 2009, 05:09 PM) *
ive been growing a monster all sumer in the biggest pot i could find, in my conservtory, so it gets even light i have made an electric turntable which the pot sits on and revolves at 1 RPMish i thoght it might be a good way for yo to cut yor light bill down a bit or just get better coverage


Nice. Well im using 2k watts no matter what so bill would stay same but good idea for even growth, which is gonna be essential. Any ideas how i could build one for this size? Gonna weigh a ton! Ha ha

Yes! as it happens! ive used a round plastic Tv turntable from focus, ive had it a while so cant remember how much it cost, just a few quid i think, this fits nicely into the lid of a large bucket with enough space around the edge to drill some holes to allow run through water to drain into the bucket, on top of the TV turntable i have placed a old record player turntable (just the round metel record base part) which also has holes in for the drain water,and a grooved channel for the drive belt on the underside, this all fixes to the lid of the bucket with one screw through the middle.
On the side of the bucket i have fixed a 12v motor which has a old Rc car wheel on its shaft ( without tyre) this makes a good channel for the drive belt, which fixes around the grooved channel on the turntable, on the 12v supply to the motor ( old charger ) i have fitted the volume control from the stero i busted up, this acts as a speed controler.
sorry i havent got any pics to put up, havnt got around to the whole cleaning the info off them yet thing!
also hope i havent made this sound complicated, its was really easy to do, and like i said i have a monster!! 18 FOOT around! six foot high nine with the bucket and pot and the growth is very even and full! im watching countless buds swell and sway as i typeI
I think i will try and grow a big one at home every year!
potsmoker93
QUOTE (Dr Trichome @ Sep 27 2009, 04:39 PM) *
? Were you not turning them on the one with six? Turning them a quarter turn every 2 days makes a big difference to even growing and yield. I agree.... pp is great, one of my favs too!


Not sure what ya mean, can you elaborte matey?

soz felling dense. rofl.gif
Tutu
Use higher wattage HID's and the light penetration will pay back big time, 250's would have to be a major scrog.

2 1kw lights or 4 600w (Nice big square then) is how I'd attempt it, and now I really do want to grow something like this, it's kinky if nothing else.

I've pondered this for sometime and I think bubbler is the way forward, I'm sure the aerofarm just doesn't have the root space for 2kw of lighting. One hell of a bubbler made from 210ltr barrel using airstones mounted at various heights in the barrel, maybe 16 6 inch ones. Wouldn't hurt to put some sprinklers amazon style higher up so you can lower the res level as the roots grow down.

Air compressor a must, if not use MPC, granules and perlite because it's so forgiving and cheap.
Dr Trichome
QUOTE (potsmoker93 @ Sep 29 2009, 01:50 AM) *
QUOTE (Dr Trichome @ Sep 27 2009, 04:39 PM) *
? Were you not turning them on the one with six? Turning them a quarter turn every 2 days makes a big difference to even growing and yield. I agree.... pp is great, one of my favs too!


Not sure what ya mean, can you elaborte matey?

soz felling dense. rofl.gif



ye no... Turning your plants regularly so lighting is even
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