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judd77
alright then, i have been reading through grobags threads and have been inspired by the legend himself to post my method at a qwiso run. this is only my 3rd time at qwiso so hopefully by posting this not only will it help others thinking about doing some qwiso but i hope to get some tips myself.

BE CAREFULL, ONLY DO IN WELL VENTILATED AREA - AND NO SMOKING!!!

what you will need to get started...

some iso propanol alcohol
some trim/popcorn/bud
coffee filters
couple of sieves
plates or preferably pyrex dishes
empty pickle jar

okay here is the initial goods...

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the trim/bud...

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squeeze into empty jar...

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add iso level with trim...

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now it is time to quickly get the lid on your jar and shake the jar like a polaroid picture for 30secs - i actually time my 30 secs from the moment my iso is in the jar. dont let it go longer than 30secs or apparently it may take some potency out of the oil (?)
after 30secs are up then quickly grab the other sieve and pour trim with iso out of jar and over sieve so the liquid then goes through coffee filter and into dish - because i only have so many hands i couldnt get pic of this part!!

the liquid going through filter into dish...

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at this point i can now go and head through to the back room for a joint and let the stuff run through naturally and check back in 10mins

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judd77
okay, joint finished so time to go and check on it...

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thats fine, as you could see all iso has run through and left all the crap on filter, time to move the dish away for better ventilation - i put them next to an oscilating fan blowing towards open window

on with the 2nd wash (this is optional)...

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same method as before but here is a pic with me straining it this time...

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notice the difference in colour this time around??...

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the two washes left to be evaporated overnight...

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will give an update next few days on the scraping process

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SuburbanGrowBroths
Hey judd77!

Can't wait to see how your oil will turn out within the next days! The first run looks very good!
You used some nice buds aswell! Enjoy your work!

SGBs
Ganjaman
Nice man hopefully you get a nice bit of oil from it spliff.gif
atoadstool

Hey Judd
You are a busy little bee. How do you find the time and energy.
You deserve a joint of that stuff (shared wi yer mates ov course wink.gif ) for your efforts
Great informative post with good pics.
Good to see you blacked out the batch number and supplier from your IPA ,like i have said before , I like your thinking clapping.gif
judd77
QUOTE (SuburbanGrowBroths @ Sep 9 2009, 01:57 PM) *
Hey judd77!

Can't wait to see how your oil will turn out within the next days! The first run looks very good!
You used some nice buds aswell! Enjoy your work!

SGBs


cheers SGBs. yeah, they buds were better than what i have used before but they were still just bottom buds that i couldnt be arsed with and i knew some iso was on its way so stuck them in freezer for bit wink.gif


QUOTE (Ganjaman @ Sep 9 2009, 06:37 PM) *
Nice man hopefully you get a nice bit of oil from it spliff.gif


cheers ganjaman, its looking good oil so far mate thumbsup.gif


QUOTE (atoadstool @ Sep 9 2009, 06:54 PM) *
Hey Judd
You are a busy little bee. How do you find the time and energy.
You deserve a joint of that stuff (shared wi yer mates ov course wink.gif ) for your efforts
Great informative post with good pics.
Good to see you blacked out the batch number and supplier from your IPA ,like i have said before , I like your thinking clapping.gif


cheers atoadstool buddy...
i find my time and energy is purely motivated by all things weed orientated mate yes.gif
and my mates will be over tonight to sample some that i made last week, in freezer ready to toke spliff.gif
judd77
okay then, here's some picks of the evaporation stage

about 18hrs later...

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the first wash...

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the second wash...

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as you can see the second wash aint evaporated yet - i was also doing other qwiso washes with different trim/bud and i will always just put the second wash in the same dish so that is why its not fully evaporated yet... not long though people!!! yes.gif
judd77
and here is pics of them dry...

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the first wash...

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the second wash...

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the second wash is actually looking quite good as it usually looks alot darker than that once it is dry - it may well be due to the buds that i used was better quality than in the past, not too sure but find out once its smoking spliff.gif

i've not much time for the scraping process but that will be done tonight when the boys come down for a smoke - grab a plate lads stoned.gif

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judd77
on with the scraping process now, i will only show the first wash as it is just the same method i use for the second wash. grab a stanley blade for this part - it'l get messy so i would advise latex gloves (not that i had any, though i wish i did!)

start by scraping together the middle of the dish...

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then gather all the oil from the sides using a curved craft blade if possible...

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scrape all oil together...

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place on mylar and put in freezer for a half hour or so...

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when oil is not so runny - but still sticky - roll around with fingers to make a ball...

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put back on mylar and store in freezer till you feel like getting blasted!!!...

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this little guide is by no means the only way to make qwiso but as i mentioned before i am quite new to it and any hints and tips on the way i have done it would be much appreciated

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TweatiePie
Pretty easy isn't it smile.gif

Lucky I can get pure alcohol from a friend.

I once cleaned my grinder with it, metal one, got a nice nugget, it got me totally trashed smile.gif
judd77
QUOTE (TweatiePie @ Sep 14 2009, 01:32 PM) *
Pretty easy isn't it smile.gif

Lucky I can get pure alcohol from a friend.

I once cleaned my grinder with it, metal one, got a nice nugget, it got me totally trashed smile.gif


yeah mate, its totally simple - if i could manage to get some nice oil from it without messing up anyone can!!!

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Mr Mullen
Hello Judd,

Your QWISO looks heavy dude yes.gif ,

I do mine the same nearly but leave the trim in the ISO for 15minutes,

Mine comes out nearly black lol.gif, not as clean as yours mate thumbsup.gif

Enjoi you oil mate haha....

Peace & Light

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TweatiePie
I'd be tempted to follow Mr Mullen, leave it longer, as the THC etc will be sitting in the alcohol for hours anyway. Can't see it effecting anything. Alcohol is very gentle and clean.

I intend to this with ALL my trim from this grow, after a quick shake to get some dusthash anyways, I think its an excellent method of getting all the THC out, bit like cannabutter etc...I think though it needs more than 30secs and shake.

I even got impatient and lightly heated my sauce of alcohol at about 60C for 30mins to evaporate it. One of those need a hit now moments.

I add that the stuff on my grinder was 2years old smile.gif I found the grinder in a box had been heavily used when I grew my haze was plastered with resin...The effect was different than the plant matter, but even after 2years it was potent.



judd77
QUOTE (Mr Mullen @ Sep 14 2009, 02:01 PM) *
Hello Judd,

Your QWISO looks heavy dude yes.gif ,

I do mine the same nearly but leave the trim in the ISO for 15minutes,

Mine comes out nearly black lol.gif, not as clean as yours mate thumbsup.gif

Enjoi you oil mate haha....

Peace & Light

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hi mrm, i have heard of leaving trim in for longer but at the same time i have also heard conflicting stories about it reducing the quality of the oil.
i'm quite new to the oil process though and i'm by no means a chemist unsure.gif but if your oil is coming out nearly black then it sounds similar to the way my second wash comes out. thats assuming you just do the one wash mrm


QUOTE (TweatiePie @ Sep 14 2009, 02:55 PM) *
I'd be tempted to follow Mr Mullen, leave it longer, as the THC etc will be sitting in the alcohol for hours anyway. Can't see it effecting anything. Alcohol is very gentle and clean.

I intend to this with ALL my trim from this grow, after a quick shake to get some dusthash anyways, I think its an excellent method of getting all the THC out, bit like cannabutter etc...I think though it needs more than 30secs and shake.

I even got impatient and lightly heated my sauce of alcohol at about 60C for 30mins to evaporate it. One of those need a hit now moments.

I add that the stuff on my grinder was 2years old smile.gif I found the grinder in a box had been heavily used when I grew my haze was plastered with resin...The effect was different than the plant matter, but even after 2years it was potent.


hi tweatiepie, i think that the idea of leaving the trim to soak in iso longer comes from just doing the single wash - that is you will not be doing a second wash for any remaining good stuff so leaving the trim soaking longer will, i assume, have more time to extract the goodness.
by doing two washes i have found that i seem to end up with 2 grades of oil - the first wash which is stronger but less quantity and the second wash which is larger quantity wise but less quality (still good smoke though) spliff.gif
judd77
here is some pics of me purging the oil even more, also a little pic of the other qwiso batches i done that night too (all oil is from first wash, never took any pics of the second wash as i just totally forgot)

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a pic of its little friends!!!...

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grobag
Nice results - excellent. guitar.gif

Just to clarify, by leaving it in the alcohol for longer in one wash you will extract more THC than with a short wash but you also extract loads of contaminates that you don't want, making it taste a bit rank. That's why you QWISO - Quick Wash ISO - you extract just the goodies with less contams. Then you second wash to get everything out but also get a load of crap with it - hence it being a darker colour.

atoadstool
QUOTE (TweatiePie @ Sep 14 2009, 02:55 PM) *
I'd be tempted to follow Mr Mullen, leave it longer, as the THC etc will be sitting in the alcohol for hours anyway. Can't see it effecting anything. Alcohol is very gentle and clean.


From what i have read on the U.S boards, 20/30 secs in the IPA is ample , leaving it longer will start to extract the chlorophyl(sp?).
This would result in a much blacker oil rather than the nice clean stuff judd is producing with his first washes.
judd77
QUOTE (grobag @ Sep 19 2009, 07:02 AM) *
Nice results - excellent. guitar.gif

Just to clarify, by leaving it in the alcohol for longer in one wash you will extract more THC than with a short wash but you also extract loads of contaminates that you don't want, making it taste a bit rank. That's why you QWISO - Quick Wash ISO - you extract just the goodies with less contams. Then you second wash to get everything out but also get a load of crap with it - hence it being a darker colour.


cheers grobag, it was reading your step through's on the BHO that gave me the idea for a qwiso one - also noticed your not so keen on the qwiso compared to the BHO... its BHO next time around for me though, just hope to get same results i'v seen you achieve wink.gif
and yeah, your right about the second wash, still gets you quite blasted but not as strong or good tasting as the first wash. sure i'v still got some 2nd wash from last batch i made unsure.gif



QUOTE (atoadstool @ Sep 19 2009, 09:02 PM) *
QUOTE (TweatiePie @ Sep 14 2009, 02:55 PM) *
I'd be tempted to follow Mr Mullen, leave it longer, as the THC etc will be sitting in the alcohol for hours anyway. Can't see it effecting anything. Alcohol is very gentle and clean.


From what i have read on the U.S boards, 20/30 secs in the IPA is ample , leaving it longer will start to extract the chlorophyl(sp?).
This would result in a much blacker oil rather than the nice clean stuff judd is producing with his first washes.


think the next time i do a qwiso my first wash is only going to be 25secs, then maybe a longer 2nd wash... mind you that wont be for a while yet as i'm almost ready for a BHO run!!!

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ps
got to say guys that i have been messing around with a few bits, getting the oil to the jelly form - little update on the smoke so far - fecking amazing... lasts for a good 2hrs after a bong and joint spliff.gif
judd77
little update on the oil, been messing around with it more - getting it to the jelly feel... much easier to handle and play about with!!! i have been purging the main lot and adding the crystal bits with little keif for last week or so.

some pics...(about a week ago)

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from my little play about last night...

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judd77
here is it ready to go away in the freezer for the night... (sorry about crappy pic tho!!!)

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almost ready peeps wink.gif
internewt
I think we're all familiar with people posting pictures of bud porn on these forums, but is this QWISO pawn?


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judd77
QUOTE (internewt @ Oct 4 2009, 01:12 AM) *
I think we're all familiar with people posting pictures of bud porn on these forums, but is this QWISO pawn?


I'll get me coat.... pinch.gif


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anyone up for a game???

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judd77
okay, so the bad news is my last crop produced quite a few buds which had started to hermie sad.gif and i had to go through and pick as much of the bad buds out as i could - big pain the arse!! however on the upside i have had more stuff than i thought to oil up in the last week or so smile.gif

so i ended up with just more than an ounce of seeded buds - half of which QWISO'd and other half i BHO'd

the qwiso was done same way as above and bho done by the thermos flask method, anyways i just thought i'd share a few pics of my results with everyone...

QWISO...

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BHO...

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should keep me happy for a while!!!

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Mr Mullen
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