plenty420
Sep 4 2009, 04:49 AM
This is advanced nutrients new formula that claims you can throw away the pens, or ph papper away, this formula feeds to the exact needs of the plant... so has anybody heard of this and what do you think??
plenty420
Sep 4 2009, 07:12 AM
(i need an expert to watch this video) www.spam.com/ph-ppmperfect (here is the video enjoy and let me know what you guys think)
plenty420
Sep 4 2009, 07:19 AM
i asked and i got this response from advance nut member..."The ppm-pH perfect system is the pH regulating components that will be added to the base nutrients (Sensigrow and bloom, Grow-Micro-Bloom and Connoisseur).
Added to the new formulation of the base nutrients will be amino acids, humic and fulvic acid and surfactants.
The new nutrient/supplement bundles are intended to be used with the base nutrients. The first bundle contains the basic supplements, the second bundle is to be used if you are using the first bundle, the third bundle is to be used with the first and second and the fourth bundle is to be used with 1,2 and 3.
The bundles are 3 or 4 products in one box and you essentially get one of the products for free when you buy them together.
The new products and the ppm/pH perfect base nutrients were expected to released already but although some of the new products are already available, I don't expect to see the ppm/pH perfect base nutrients on the shelves for another month or so"
plenty420
Sep 4 2009, 07:26 AM
this was a feeding question that i feel is applicable to the nutrients at question....
" I can run a little higher on the BigBud and less Sensi Bloom with this schedule.
One more question. I'm only mixing up 4l at a batch so I'm only using a small amount of Big Bud powder. I've been making a solution of 140ml water to 5g of powder so I have a solution of 0.5 g/10 ml. The solution doesn't seem to keep. It get's all snotty with bacterial growth and a bit of mould after a couple of weeks. Is this a problem?
"response from a member from advanced nutrients...
"If I understand your post, you're pre mixing powdered Big Bud with water to make a solution that you add to your 4 liter reservoir when you mix up a new batch of nutrients. Is that correct?
If so I would recommend that you just add powdered Big Bud directly to your 4 liter container every time you mix a batch.
I only mix up enough nutrient solution that I can use in a week. For organics I only mix up enough for the feeding. If I'm feeding from a reservoir then I only mix up enough for 2-3 days.
Big Bud contains amino acids and proteinates and can form strings if left to sit for a while in certain conditions but there's really no food for bacteria in either Sensi Bloom or Big Bud.
You may want to wash out the container you're using between feedings. A clean reservoir will help prevent bacterial blooms.
plenty420
Sep 14 2009, 07:26 AM
ok, so we need molases or carbohydrates,
grow a and bloom b
also aditives,
microbs, , advanced nutrients have so many lines like= cannuasur line part a and b ,
also thares= sensi grow and bloom,
also thares = micro grow and bloom 3 part feed,
so wich one, whats better?? thers also additives like big bud, increasing bud ratioo...weight.. thares grandma eggys f1 (folvic acid) also grandma eggys humic acid,dont know what the humic acid does,
iam going to get the f1 it was super reccommended,
also another additive is a leaf penatrator called wet betty,i feel like after the penatrater i should mist the leafs with something ealse after the leaf opens its pors.. anybody know why you would get a leaf penatrator to open the leaf ??, so after the penatrator you should mist with... something.?anyone??? mybe voddo juice or turantula, thare another additive...
do any of these names sound familiar???? in a nut shell, please give a reccommendation on having all of these incorparated, i think this is the recipe for the best dense sticky bud, and co2 of course makes it complete..frosty, i heard of co2bost a microb compost co2 system that sprays.. i feel like advanced nutrients has it all its just how to incorprate such a divers line, i need someone to throw down some wisdom on the right stuff feeding wise, lavishly feeding, of course after i will use final flush to flush all the crap out...
Joint hogger
Sep 15 2009, 04:00 AM
i use the 3 part micro grow and bloom & a fresh air intakes is all you need to get the best dense sticky bud
as for co2, it has its benefits but your growing cab has to be set up right.
plenty420
Sep 17 2009, 06:37 AM
Exellent, micro grow and bloom seems right, co2 will be added,also additives??? what to use thares sooo many additivs,have you heard of scorpion juice!!! its exclusive and it supposed to be the top notch!!
plenty420
Sep 17 2009, 06:42 AM
lets keep this topic alive!!! anyone use advanced nutrients?? it seems to be the top of the top product!
Randalizer
Sep 17 2009, 06:58 AM
this commercial brought to you by...
masteryero
Sep 17 2009, 03:57 PM
a few people i know use the AN line and the never want something else...
the taste of the buds is sweeter and the quality of those buds are much sticky !!! and it gives u a bigger yield...
but the prices of AN doesn't lie

if you buy the WHOLE LINE IT COST U OVER 300 EURO
giri69
Oct 29 2009, 05:14 PM
I use super bud blaster as an additive to bloom fert works great thick buds well happy
Tremont-Salby
Oct 29 2009, 05:44 PM
QUOTE (Randalizer @ Sep 17 2009, 06:58 AM)

this commercial brought to you by...


strange,aint it
i use no boosters or snake oil and also get big fat buds
Cambium
Oct 29 2009, 06:02 PM
There is an article (*cough* advert) in the latest weed world. It gives a medi-user perspective on setting up a grow room. It is written to be aimed at sick people. It is a little lacking in content and very wispy. The only brand name that is mentioned is AN. Not only is AN mentioned, but specifically their connoisseur range

For medi-users!

For anyone!

It's something like £80 a liter ffs

Article my arse.
Owderb
Oct 29 2009, 06:06 PM
QUOTE (Tremont-Salby @ Oct 29 2009, 05:44 PM)


strange,aint it
i use no boosters or snake oil and also get big fat buds

Me too....funny that, and my entire feed for a grow doesnt come to the price of 1 of their so called wonder nutrients
Owd
happybonobo
Oct 29 2009, 06:13 PM
it seems that a propper statistical national debate should be organised concerning AN.
I get good results from bigbud and overdrive, but I used carboload and other stuff and I think I might just as well piss in the tank, at least is organic.
Truth is my final buds seem bigger and kind of "finalised" when I have used bb and o/drive
zaaboot
Oct 29 2009, 06:14 PM
same - I have gone through a few over the years - but as Owd said, never have \i spent as much as that on a full selection including, grow, bloom, boost, root thingy etc....Am seems bloody expensive to me, never tried it, but the last time I did single stems they were mammoth - al for less than 80£
Joint hogger
Oct 30 2009, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (masteryero @ Sep 17 2009, 03:57 PM)

a few people i know use the AN line and the never want something else...
the only reason i use them was cause the guy in the hydro recommened them,
just grow, bloom & micro & i've been using them ever since in hydro, 3 x 1lts at £7.50 each.
dogzilla
Nov 4 2009, 12:58 PM
I'd love to see a scientific study on all of these nutrients...
Talking 100% controlled environment, following manufacturers recommendations to the letter.
Let's see what happens then...
Right now, people buy nutrients, they get good bud and they think WOW it must be the bullshit I added.
Why doesn't anyone try growing with just water... guarantee you will get some nice bud too.
plenty420
Nov 5 2009, 07:07 AM
QUOTE (dogzilla @ Nov 4 2009, 04:58 AM)

I'd love to see a scientific study on all of these nutrients...
Talking 100% controlled environment, following manufacturers recommendations to the letter.
Let's see what happens then...
Right now, people buy nutrients, they get good bud and they think WOW it must be the bullshit I added.
Why doesn't anyone try growing with just water... guarantee you will get some nice bud too.
If you go to spam.com you will see the scientific studies.Just becuase you cant affored it doesnt mean its bad.Put it like this if you put umleaded gas in your car it will still run,if you put super premium gas,it will run better.You can drink tap water,or you can drink arrowhead water..etc..
You ever score sour deisal that was alright...airy,non sticky,wack diesal... well this theory applies, now have you ever had super sour diesal.... must be the nutes , iam happy with paying about 6 dollars more per bottle...i am not a jew but thats cheap if you complain about quality.keep get with the times and science..advance our self..brought to you buy advanced nutrients...jk..
GreenNinja
Nov 5 2009, 01:35 PM
The only reason a UK grow shop would recommend AN nutes is profit imo.
Why?
- plenty of alternative hard water nute formulations to suit UK water (v. hard in places)
- massive expensive range of products in their system (i.e. more sales, more profit)
- big spend on marketing (e.g. Weeds)
I see AN as a supplements company and am guilty of using a few of their products (Carboload, Hammerhead) but this PPM-PERFECT stuff is just pure vapourware. Anyone who grows hydro or coco and doesn't know their EC/PPM isn't growing anywhere near optimally, and is growing on guesswork rather than fact. The worst part is, the cost of an EC/PPM meter is around 60 quid for a Bluelab and is a one off purchase....so why the hell spend the rest of your grow buying pre-EC'd nutes at a cost greater than the cost of an EC meter???!!!!!! And it's like driving an automatic rather than a manual, or even on autopilot/cruise control.
The only part of AN's bullshit I think I might agree with is their 'stepped' view of nutrition: more nutrients = more yield. Sounds controversial I know, but imagine each of those supplements gave a 1% increase in yield and you add 20 supplements in to get 20% increase. The cost of that 20% increase is where Big Mike makes his money, but I think anyone can get results equalling 80-90% of theirs using 20% of the cost. i.e. not worth it, unless you're just plain stupid.
Big Mike is a cnut. This is your mantra for the day

GN
greenrave
Nov 5 2009, 01:51 PM
i used to use sweet leaf and c.load..
but cant get sweet leaf no more and thers no chance im buying budcandy

fkn joke£££
so just going try ghe 3parts..
Owderb
Nov 5 2009, 01:56 PM
QUOTE
"throw your ppm pens away and ec pen..
I'll keep mine thanks and you can keep your nutrients
I spend £12 on grow which lasts 3 grows, so thats £4 a grow, £12 on bloom, £20 rootstim which lasts 3 grows, so £7, £12 on Boost which lasts 4 grows so £3 a grow
I make that that £26 a full grow and if you care to check my results are fine....Approx 20oz+ from 1 bulb
So now you may understand why I think AN among others are a total rip off trying to get the inexperienced and gullible to buy stuff they just dont need
£300 for a full set my arse
I remember a while back saying it will guarantee you a gram a watt too
Get in the real world
No wonder folk fuck their grows up trying to add shit they dont know nothing about and dont know why they are adding it
Good marketing though cos they know them sort of folk are out there
Stick to basics and you wont go far wrong
Owd
smokie1 b c f c
Nov 5 2009, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Owderb @ Nov 5 2009, 01:56 PM)

QUOTE
"throw your ppm pens away and ec pen..
I'll keep mine thanks and you can keep your nutrients
I spend £12 on grow which lasts 3 grows, so thats £4 a grow, £12 on bloom, £20 rootstim which lasts 3 grows, so £7, £12 on Boost which lasts 4 grows so £3 a grow
I make that that £26 a full grow and if you care to check my results are fine....Approx 20oz+ from 1 bulb
So now you may understand why I think AN among others are a total rip off trying to get the inexperienced and gullible to buy stuff they just dont need
£300 for a full set my arse
I remember a while back saying it will guarantee you a gram a watt too
Get in the real world
No wonder folk fuck their grows up trying to add shit they dont know nothing about and dont know why they are adding it
Good marketing though cos they know them sort of folk are out there
Stick to basics and you wont go far wrong
Owd

well put owd
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