Greetings from an ageing hippie,. anyone know if smoking the gange everyday can cause high blood pressure?

Not as far as I'm aware - I think it is the opposite. Mixing it with tobacco, maybe?

Aside from a subjective change in perception, the most common short-term physical and neurological effects include increased heart rate, lowered blood pressure


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29

It lowers it eating it definitely, I've checked before and after on several occasions. It's always considerably lower

Evil caffeine will though.

what about low blood pressure? ive got this thing when i stand up (every time i stand up quickly now) i get a slight black out feeling, eyes go colorfully blind, muscles weaken for no morre than 5-30secs... i kinda enjoy it most of the time but not when it makes me feel liek im about to let one rip everywhere! hmm

Weed definitely *lowers* blood pressure, hence the red-eye and occasional dizziness etc..

Weed lowers it, ALOT.

Smoking Tobacco is EVIL I quit recently I had a relapse for 12hrs after 2months off, I smoked about 15fags.

I have low blood pressure and checked it after this smoking session, it was SO high, tobacco is EVIL.

Could feel the pulse in my head, tightness in my heart, headache and I had cold feet and hands (tightened arteries, high blood pressure but no flow).

Made me NEVER want to touch the evil killer tobacco ever again.

Seriously the best thing you can do is quit that shit. If you smoke tobacco thats why you have high blood pressure.

Im usually 60/110 or less

I felt ILL after smoking again physically I felt AWFUL. Never again, ever.

Whilst it's true that nicotine increases blood pressure, your reaction to it sounds like it that severe because you'd lost your tolerance to it - it doesn't have quite that much effect in regular tobacco smokers.

I agree sure, but I have quit for a while now and I notice I don't get as cold, my hands, feet, I notice alot of positive effects....

I never used to get cold before I smoked etc.

I think you just get used being poisened an feeling awful? and on a one-way road to a horrible and early death?

I noticed that I am never aware of my heart beating now too..Also things like my nails are growing thicker and faster...

Rather like Hash Plant, the better the flow of oxygen the better things are?

I stoppped smoking cigarettes and my blood pressure went sky high for about a 3 months. Doc wanted to put me on meds wouldn`t take them, everything has returned to normal now .... no need for meds

that happens to me aswell when i stand up to fast i start feeling dizzy some times though everything goes white and i have to sit back down kind of wierd i put it down to the blood rushing out of my head

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I get that too Diggle.. i think we got weeditis... means you need more lolol

Cinderella

Oddly I never get the occasional "grey outs" I used to get since I quit Tobacco

Ye same here, if i stand up fast i drop to the floor but it's annoying when you hit into something like a table but u dont feel the pain.

My mum has high blood pressure/angina and they give her lots of pills like hydrocyroide etc (lots of special names i can't even type let alone pronounce)

so you should ask your doctor to fully understand high blood pressure with cannabis, the pills are helping she said.

i had a medical every 3 years on my last job, my blood pressure has always been normal, i was tested this year and its still normal. i suppose it depends on the individual, i can eat anything i want without problems. i have never had a day without pot for over 30 years.

I'm the same as you 60+ and high BP, take the pills, smoke the dope and have high BP, however when I DON'T take the pills and STILL smoke the dope I still have high BP. So, I think what the f**k I must be pretty high in there somewhere bom Shiva

Oh yeah, I've just had a pipe and I don't smoke tobacco bom Shiva

smoking and eating pure cannabis will lower your blood pressure

with cannabis your blood pressure gets lower and your heart rate increases

if like a lot of Uk stoners you say you smoke cannabis but actually smoke spliffs i.e. tobacco with a little cannabis added, then I would quit tobacco

tobacco increases your blood pressure and roughens and hardens your arteries... which causes cholesterol and fat to stick to your arteries... which increases your blood pressure more and can lead to a heart attack when lumps of hard fat and cholesterol break off and stick in your heart... or gvie you a stroke etc.

tobacco and nicotine will fuck your whole body up...

smoking pipes of pure cannabis will still fuck your lungs, so do bongs though much less --- but both are very likely to give you cancer due to free radicals and tar... but most of the active organic natural chemicals in cannabis have positive effects on your body, and some even counteract tumour formations....

whereas most of the natural and unnatural shit in tobacco will fuck your body sideways in pretty much every way you can think of

nicotine constricts your arteries which is why your limbs get really cold when you smoke a cig on a cold day, and it also constricts your lung volume --- not just cause of the tar, because that is a short term effect of nicotine

a short term effect of cannabis is to expand your lungs

tobacco blocks the arteries to your cock too

whereas anyone who smokes cannabis pure can tell you it increaes the blood flow to every bit of the body ---

I like to trek and I can smoke pure dope all through a trek even at 3500m... one cig and I am wheezing like an old duffer

fuck tobacco it is rank shit

I'd still grow good old fashioned Nicotiana rustica, but not the newer Western varieties --- definitely "bad medicine"

that happens to me aswell when i stand up to fast i start feeling dizzy some times though everything goes white and i have to sit back down kind of wierd i put it down to the blood rushing out of my head





I get this too but not too much at the moment, I wonder whether its strain dependent?

Do you go dizzy in the morning after that 1st fag ? If the answer is yes, then you've high BP

It's tobac, not Mary Jane

You my friend have orthostatic or postural hypotention, have a word with your GP, its unlickely to be herb related (so dont mention it), unless it only happens when your baked Im only mentioning it because its only a matter of time before you have another of these vaso-vagal type episodes, and your face gets a painful introduction to the corner of a dining table.

Cannabis is a Vaso-Dilator, it lowers your BP, thats why you whitey when your pissed

YASM

shit this is too much I'm going for another pipe .................then I'll take my BP cos if I worry about getting too stoned then I'll only get 'high' BP and then I'll have to have anutha pipe to bring my BP down (well better than bringing myself down) bom Shiva

If i toke or not my blood pressure is smack on every time i think its because i'm a long term toker 30+ yrs ish the system seems used to both states now although i do prefer the toked state more than the un toked state.

Hey, wow (my heart sinks in)...

Atleast from reading up slightly on this thread i may not be the only one :$

Can you give me a quick rundown on what that entails? im gonna google it now too. I cant remember the last time i went to my GP something apart from asking for all my notes. When i done a year at uni i had to move to the oncampus general practition so they refused to even give me my notes and said they'll send em direct. Not spoken to anyone since..

Alright, just to clear up, it never 'used' to happen to me per say, but now it happens to me,almost,all the time. Not even when i've smoked a spliffy (i dont do bongs,no1s shown me the ropes,or reason why instead of J's. do you get more high? or spend more cannabis per session?). Sober or not, it's in my nature, i suppose i've become slightly accustomed to it and have learned to live amonsgt it on a smaller scale?

Sometimes when i havent eaten much and i've lit one up, its most prominent, so im guessing lowering my already low blood pressure induces it. But regularily it happens on a small scale, i have to think about standing up before i stand up, to slow my self down standing up so i can continue too stay standing up

I do admit once, i smoked some 'supposed g13 haze' quite recently from a D and i was sat down the whole time, got up in a rush because i heard my name being called and i had this episode that was longer in time about 1 minute and ended with a 3-fold spew up!!

What's wrong with me....

are you taking any anti depressants. specifically tri-cyclics?

Nothing apart from bud. I take no medication,ill or not,no calpol,no paracetamol etc either...
I just been reading on the wiki about it. Somewhere it mentions to stand up,slowly. Due to gravity on blood when standing up then vascular has to commence its state to help thrust that blood up etc. Its quite common to anorexia people..which might be me,but im not a self profest anorexic,however i might be..? I eat alot, eat whatever i can find infront of me..for the most part.

diggle and cindie, whats your take, has it happened recently?

e2a Ruderalisman im guessing you may have 'had' it too on a mild case? Strain dependant maybe the contributing factor to what makes it more prominent... I don't think its directly related to bud thou...

Cheers!!

I'm 64 next May I'll spend crimble in the 'Dam (I used to live there in the 60's) and I've been toking since I was 14, growing for the last few years and my BP's High ........................................




........................and I still have to do something.................can't remember wot tho' .................




....................oh, yeah - get wrecked bom Shiva

Its hard to say mate. Anaemia, Diabetes or simple dehydration amongst numerous other things can cause it. If its really worrying you have a chat to your gp and hell just do some routine bloods prob an ecg and go from that baseline. Personally i'd just go because Im far to good looking to risk breaking my mug on something very hard!!! But its entirely your decision.

i'm 64 in a few weeks, i had 2 problems when i was young, constipation and some type of virtigo. when i was 30 i started eating bran, not bran flakes just bran, i cant go a day without it, then i find what wonderul food it is, probably why i dont have blood pressure. i started smoking cigs when i was 6, always made me dizzy, so i never smoked heavy and stopped smoking tobac 11 years ago, i never liked the taste of alcohol and being drunk i thought was the worse feeling iv'e ever had in my life, i would sooner die, merry was fine, i stopping drinking alcohol 35 years ago, i never use legal medicine and its 30 years since i had any illegal drugs. i do a 6 day week on my job and i get lots of excerise. iv'e never had indigestion i think i had heartburn 3 or 4 times last year. i'm thinking growing old is easy so far.

I think its more to do with smoking tobacco than the herb. Tobbaco and incidentaly alcohol, all cause a rise in BP in most people. Mines borderline at the moment and i smoke spliffs but dont use alcohol

iv been smokin a good old while now, Iv had low blood pressure for as long as i can remember so I wouldn say so xx

Smoking weed can cause erectile difficulties due to it's blood-pressure lowering effects in the same way that beta-blockers like Propanolol etc. can. Conversely, drugs like Viagra make the blood pressure shoot right up which can lead to dangers with some people who take it.

I agree with kurtzlich, it's yer tobac habit - just toke the herb


My GP knows that I toke and it helps him to factor this in when he ladles out my pills. I go from the 'Between me an my GP it's private', so he won't say anything - remember, at your age you're the Victor Meldrew, to old and incorrigable to be changed.

i been smoking since i was 14 & taking blues & dex. i'v got high blood pressure & taking pills for it, doc knows & said i'm to old to stop. 62 now

YEAH, boogie on dood we must have the same doc, mine said a similar thing.

And mine!
Blues & Dexies .... Man, that takes me back. Bombers & Hearts too, no doubt.

2 bob for 50 hearts in the chemist legal to buy. my p.t. teacher first gave me them when i used to take a note in saying i was to ill to take part, never missed a games lesson since.

Oh fer the 2 bob daze again saw many a band in Middle Earth, I wuz blitzed, they wuz blitzed, everyone woz blitzed thank fu*k I'm not the ONLY borin' 'ol fart left

dont 4get the mandies to crash

far effin out

from medicine.net

"As you probably know, sildenafil (Vig) is a relatively new, quite effective, and highly publicized treatment for ED. Yet, this question of safety is pertinent and logical since both sildenafil and many anti-hypertensive medications work by opening up or widening (dilating) certain blood vessels. Sildenafil dilates vessels to increase the blood flow to the penis, while the blood pressure medications dilate certain vessels to lower the blood pressure. Thus, the question arises as to whether it is safe to combine these two different medications (sildenafil and the various anti-hypertensives). Since they both independently dilate the blood vessels, it is conceivable that together they could lower the blood pressure too much."

we talking blood pressure not an area for getting it wrong but it does cause soething to shoot right up

Right on, man; keep on truckin'!
Plenty of us old farts around BB, plenty of us.
Leeds University SU Bar, 1967-70 .... Awesome!! The nearest thing to legalised dope dealing you ever did see. Any other survivors??

Indeed they were!
After brekkie, I'm going to have to tidy this thread up and split some of us off from it. Being grumbly old crusties, we've tottered right off topic, and now stand in need of an "Old Farts Thread".
It will appear, soon. But first, Brekkers......
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My thoughts as well, I was thinking that apologies were due to Grimreefer for High Jacking his #.
There should be 'Grumblie 'Ol Farts CS' somewhere around here, then we can all sit and mumble to each other and you can only get in if you show your buspass at the door and put your dentures in

Ok, here we go:
UK420 Old Farts Club

Maybe this thread can totter back on topic, whilst the aged old hippie types among us can all go and snooze/remember forgotten stuff/grumble about our aging organs and bodies/laugh at weak weed smokers/long for the old days etc etc etc.

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Nothing apart from bud. I take no medication,ill or not,no calpol,no paracetamol etc either...
I just been reading on the wiki about it. Somewhere it mentions to stand up,slowly. Due to gravity on blood when standing up then vascular has to commence its state to help thrust that blood up etc. Its quite common to anorexia people..which might be me,but im not a self profest anorexic,however i might be..? I eat alot, eat whatever i can find infront of me..for the most part.

diggle and cindie, whats your take, has it happened recently?


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Hey babe... im SO sorry to hear your health problems.... as far as blood pressure goes... i know i have a low blood pressure.. one time i was in hospital and i asked my buddy to bring me in some special yogurt..lolol (i know amma bad girl)

Anyways, i was hooked up to the heart machine at night time an i scoffed my yogurt and i watched, on screen, as my blood pressure fell to a point where the bloody thing was beeping and all the fecking nurses were running about in panic.. weed DEFINATELY lowers your blood pressure

Im wondering though , how can you be anorexic if you eat everything you can?? I dunno much about the disease but i thought it was when you DONT eat?? BUT IF you dont eat, you KNOW thats gonna drop your blood pressure too...

What i wondered is... can your blood pressure be TOOO low??

Hope you get some relief from your symptoms and im sure the guys here at 420 will help you all they can..

Cinderella Ninetynine