Full Version: Nastey Water,cleaning My Tap Water With Oxy Plus?
hi all,i have sum large amounts of chlorine in my water ,and its basically making my bud taste funny,ive been stiking to ot1s feeding wiv b b bloom and grow,and its working but its the taste,i have been using 15ml per 30l of water of h/peroxide to clean out any stuff from the water.i am feeding only water now as im at the end of buding a few girls.any1 use this stuff in there water ,and any tips on using it or not using it?
QUOTE (smokie1 b c f c @ Aug 24 2009, 04:42 AM) 
hi all,i have sum large amounts of chlorine in my water ,and its basically making my bud taste funny,ive been stiking to ot1s feeding wiv b b bloom and grow,and its working but its the taste,i have been using 15ml per 30l of water of h/peroxide to clean out any stuff from the water.i am feeding only water now as im at the end of buding a few girls.any1 use this stuff in there water ,and any tips on using it or not using it?
I don't think hydrogen peroxide is going to help with chlorine?........
Bubble your tap water for an hour or so before using it should get rid of chlorine.
How do you know you've got lots of chlorine? Do you know if it's regular or chloroamine?
allways used water strait from the taps. A mix of hot and cold no standing or bubbling and have had no problems or bad tasting bud. You sure its not the h/peroxide your using thats giving you that funny taste.
Hantshaze.
Hantshaze.
QUOTE (hantshaze @ Aug 24 2009, 06:47 AM)
allways used water strait from the taps. A mix of hot and cold no standing or bubbling and have had no problems or bad tasting bud. You sure its not the h/peroxide your using thats giving you that funny taste.
Hantshaze.
Hantshaze.
Me too....
QUOTE (BluePixie @ Aug 24 2009, 08:10 PM)
QUOTE (hantshaze @ Aug 24 2009, 06:47 AM)
allways used water strait from the taps. A mix of hot and cold no standing or bubbling and have had no problems or bad tasting bud. You sure its not the h/peroxide your using thats giving you that funny taste.
Hantshaze.
Hantshaze.
Me too....
pretty sure h2o2 will kill all the friendly stuff living in your compost 
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As you'ved bubbled the water for 24hrs, the chlorine would of dissipated 
Personally, I've not had much problem with taste/tap water (I do bubble mine too)
The only thing I can suggest is use one of those activated carbon water filters, I've of people using these for home brewing too... as the quality of the water = shit pint
RO would be your next option.
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Aerate/Age the tap water
This approach has long been used by aquarists. Fill a barrel or bucket with some tap water and let it sit for a day or two. In this way, the temperature will be close (room temp), and the chlorine will dissipate from the water. Adding an airstone or powerhead to create water movement speeds the dissipation of chlorine from the water. This is simple, cheap and very effective when dealing with chlorine.
If your water system uses chlorine, this is a great way to go. There might be times when you need to add some water right away, and don't have any already aged. So that's one problem with this method. The bigger problems is that this approach doesn't work for chloramines. Thats one of the main reasons that chloramines are being used instead of chlorine. It's more stable, and won't dissipate as easily. Some report that aging chloramine treated water for a week will eliminate the chloramine, but several water treatment websites suggest that isn't always true.
This approach has long been used by aquarists. Fill a barrel or bucket with some tap water and let it sit for a day or two. In this way, the temperature will be close (room temp), and the chlorine will dissipate from the water. Adding an airstone or powerhead to create water movement speeds the dissipation of chlorine from the water. This is simple, cheap and very effective when dealing with chlorine.
If your water system uses chlorine, this is a great way to go. There might be times when you need to add some water right away, and don't have any already aged. So that's one problem with this method. The bigger problems is that this approach doesn't work for chloramines. Thats one of the main reasons that chloramines are being used instead of chlorine. It's more stable, and won't dissipate as easily. Some report that aging chloramine treated water for a week will eliminate the chloramine, but several water treatment websites suggest that isn't always true.
Personally, I've not had much problem with taste/tap water (I do bubble mine too)
The only thing I can suggest is use one of those activated carbon water filters, I've of people using these for home brewing too... as the quality of the water = shit pint
RO would be your next option.
QUOTE (sky @ Aug 24 2009, 09:20 PM)
pretty sure h2o2 will kill all the friendly stuff living in your compost ?
?h202 converts into oxygen when it goes into the water.
very doubtful it would kill any microlife
QUOTE (d|t @ Aug 24 2009, 09:23 PM)
QUOTE (sky @ Aug 24 2009, 09:20 PM)
pretty sure h2o2 will kill all the friendly stuff living in your compost ?
?h202 converts into oxygen when it goes into the water.
very doubtful it would kill any microlife
are you sure?
i was under the impression that it helps water contain/maintain oxygen levels?..
its used to sterilise things ... well i think it is ..... i'm off to google 
"a powerful bleaching agent. It is used as a disinfectant, antiseptic, oxidizer, and in rocketry as a propellant."
i know its used in hydro to add oxygen but im sure its not good for micro monsters and fungi
i know its used in hydro to add oxygen but im sure its not good for micro monsters and fungi
we i know for sure that it fookin burns your skin....
its an acid
i always let water stand for 24 hours before use, that way the chlorine dissipitates.
so how does people get around it when there water supplier uses chloramine in the water?
so how does people get around it when there water supplier uses chloramine in the water?
Bubble your water for 24 hours....it'll get rid of the chlorine as everyone else has said.
As for H202, it will affect your microherd if you're using one. Unless you have a specific reason to use peroxide, I wouldn't (good reasons are in low doses in hydro to keep roots white and lovely).
If your bud tastes bad it could be the drying, curing, flushing and any other additives you've put in (I don't use Ripen any more because it definitely messes up taste, even with a good flush afterwards).
GN
As for H202, it will affect your microherd if you're using one. Unless you have a specific reason to use peroxide, I wouldn't (good reasons are in low doses in hydro to keep roots white and lovely).
If your bud tastes bad it could be the drying, curing, flushing and any other additives you've put in (I don't use Ripen any more because it definitely messes up taste, even with a good flush afterwards).
GN
Personally as an organicish compost grower I don't give a toss about chlorine except for seedlings in diddly little pots. My understanding is that the amounts that are in tap water are destroyed within seconds of coming into contact with organic matter so any chlorine should be nullified by the first inch or so of compost, or even by your organic nutes when you mix them up. If really concerned just bubble for an hour or so.
Essence (bacterial fungal stuff) can thrive in tap water bubbled for about 1/2 hour or so I doubt tap water is doing any damage to plant roots. I'd only be concerned if your tap water suddenly starts smelling like a swimming pool (does happen sometimes if water companies panic in hot weather and add shit loads more chlorine).
Might be a different story for hydro.
Essence (bacterial fungal stuff) can thrive in tap water bubbled for about 1/2 hour or so I doubt tap water is doing any damage to plant roots. I'd only be concerned if your tap water suddenly starts smelling like a swimming pool (does happen sometimes if water companies panic in hot weather and add shit loads more chlorine).
Might be a different story for hydro.
i bubble water for an hour then add grow/bloom etc and give it a couple of mins more bubble to get everything mixed well then use straight away.
anyone using oxy plus etc , just go to a hairdressing wholesale place and you'll get a lot more for a lot less money.
anyone using oxy plus etc , just go to a hairdressing wholesale place and you'll get a lot more for a lot less money.
QUOTE (d|t @ Aug 24 2009, 09:20 PM)
The only thing I can suggest is use one of those activated carbon water filters, I've of people using these for home brewing too... as the quality of the water = shit pint
RO would be your next option.
RO would be your next option.
Britta type jug filters are a mini carbon filter. I use filtered water for seedlings in their first pot.....then water straight out of the tap after that.
thank you all very mutch for the coments ,so now i no it aint the water ,as said its probably my drying ,as i feed my girls only water for 7 to 14 days to ensure no bad taste,so i no it aint the flush? now i am haveing to dry it in a bedroom and a built in w/drobe, temps ar 20c to 25c and 50 to 70% hymidity,i no that you as supposed to dry in a 18c room/box in the dark and with rh at 40 to 45% is the best .so will drying it in a room wiv a bit more heat hurt me buds? i dont spray any aftershave or nuffin and keep the curtains shut ,so nealy dark. any tips all.and im not useing the h/peroxide no more ,thankx again felow herbalists 
are you sure its not just the strain? or have you grown it before and enjoyed it? i grew 5 or 6 different strains in the same big grow ages back and all had the same treatment etc yet there was one that i couldnt stand! apparently it was cheese smell and taste was nasty to me yet others thought it was spot on.
smell and taste was nasty to me yet others thought it was spot on.
QUOTE (sky @ Aug 24 2009, 09:47 PM)
"a powerful bleaching agent. It is used as a disinfectant, antiseptic, oxidizer, and in rocketry as a propellant."
i know its used in hydro to add oxygen but im sure its not good for micro monsters and fungi
i know its used in hydro to add oxygen but im sure its not good for micro monsters and fungi
Liquid H/Peroxide is very good stuff, if you can find it anywhere that is, its also a key ingredient to alot of explosives.
Heavens no! you don't use it as feed or an additive!!! its for cleaning things, thats all. i use it for cleaning and preparing my blades before cutting cuttings. Just get a piece of clean, sterile lint and dip in H/P, then wipe you razor blade with it before cutting a cutting. just cleans the blade and stops any nasty things that might be lurking on the blade from contaminating your new fresh cuttings
With a regard to Chlorine, Chlorine dissipates into air after a period of time anyway, no need to boil water or anything like that, just fill a bucket and leave it to stand for 24hrs.
Boiling water is bad in its own way cause that forces the oxygen out of the water and you want more o2 in your water, not less! Without a good o2 supply to your roots, they wont absorb nutes as they should.
QUOTE (Pricie @ Aug 26 2009, 09:59 AM)
With a regard to Chlorine, Chlorine dissipates into air after a period of time anyway, no need to boil water or anything like that, just fill a bucket and leave it to stand for 24hrs.
Boiling water is bad in its own way cause that forces the oxygen out of the water and you want more o2 in your water, not less! Without a good o2 supply to your roots, they wont absorb nutes as they should.
Boiling water is bad in its own way cause that forces the oxygen out of the water and you want more o2 in your water, not less! Without a good o2 supply to your roots, they wont absorb nutes as they should.
Leaving to stand is bad in it's own way as the oxygen also depletes with the chlorine. As said before if concerned about chlorine (and I don't think compost growers need to be) bubble your water with an airstone for an hour or so. Will get rid of chlorine and oxygenate the water.
QUOTE (BluePixie @ Aug 26 2009, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Pricie @ Aug 26 2009, 09:59 AM)
With a regard to Chlorine, Chlorine dissipates into air after a period of time anyway, no need to boil water or anything like that, just fill a bucket and leave it to stand for 24hrs.
Boiling water is bad in its own way cause that forces the oxygen out of the water and you want more o2 in your water, not less! Without a good o2 supply to your roots, they wont absorb nutes as they should.
Boiling water is bad in its own way cause that forces the oxygen out of the water and you want more o2 in your water, not less! Without a good o2 supply to your roots, they wont absorb nutes as they should.
Leaving to stand is bad in it's own way as the oxygen also depletes with the chlorine. As said before if concerned about chlorine (and I don't think compost growers need to be) bubble your water with an airstone for an hour or so. Will get rid of chlorine and oxygenate the water.
leaving your water to stand for 24 hours does more the removing chlorine.....it also tells you water the true PH of the water is.
QUOTE (spankydemonkey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:17 AM)
leaving your water to stand for 24 hours does more the removing chlorine.....it also tells you water the true PH of the water is.
Just to be pedantic
- why would a compost grower (esp an origanic compost grower) be worried about pH anyway - just ask your water compoany if you really want to know - or test it once before and once after being left to stand. Not sure what you mean by true pH.....pH is what it is when it is, if there are chemical changes in the water whilst is stands that will result in changes in the pH (it ussually rises in standing water -I'm guessing this is at least partly because dissolved carbonic acids (i.e CO2)are also dissapating don't know that for sure). Once the water is in the compo the compo has by far the biggest effect on the pH around the roots, unless you water is less than 6.5 or more than about 8-9 to start with.Different story in hydro.
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