Hey guys,

Well this is my first problem that has occured in the couple years i've been growing.. i always use to sterilize my rooms after each grow.. but thats kinda hard now working perpetually.

Anyways i had a problem with heat over the last two days.. but seem the weather has changed back to its usual, and everything got on temp side. On the other hand i have got another problem- maby quite serious..? ..im sure its not lsf as theres no rustiness.

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Any ideas what it is.. and any ideas on how to solve?

Sticky.

have you checked for pests ,under the leaves

Ok just had a look and seem like there is tiny lil white things(egg shape-) not many, but they are like micro size, i dunno wheather there living or not?

..what is it ?

Looks like Spider Mites mate. Smack them with Blockout every 3 days for a week and you will be clean!

spider mite

Are spider mites bad bad? .. will it ruin my crop? ..how does it occur in the first place?

there not good , thy can multiply quickly
they can get in the room from you if you come from the garden ,on plants you bring in from outside

Thanks for you help Bart, i have just done alittle search.. going to pick up some of the Blockout and might smoke bomb the room eswell.. then sterilize the rooms.

When you mentioned outside.. something clicked.. and remembered i changed to smaller pots to flower with from the garage- i did wash them though before i brought them in.. im annoyed now

that looks like they've settled in properly!

loads of ways to get rid but have a good read first as some methods you might not agree with (nasty chemicals) . i'm using ivermectin based birdmite stuff as it seems effective and doesnt stay in the plant too long

If you can find something called 'Plant Vitality' then it would be well worth buying, its a bit pricey but you only need to spray on once and problem solved, does the plants a world of good too and its organic.

Definately worked for me

you have got spider mite keeping temps below 25 will slow the breeding. choose a poison and nail the little fuckers, dont flip plants to bloom until you have eradicated(if poss) good luck

sbpi and you can get it in most garden centres iirc

The only thing that killed the spidermites I had was first I sprayed them with scotts bug clear and horticultural soap, I then bought 2 bottles of scotts bug clear and absolutely soaked them underneath and on top, I done this 3 times over 6 days, this is the only time I have ever been able to totally eradicate them from the flowering room. But I would not use these when plants have started to flower because of the chemicals.

Peace,
GG

Thanks for all the feedback, im not happy at all i will not put no more plants into the flowering room.. but i have 4 at various stages at the moment in flowering..? the veg box doesnt seem to be affected as much.

Anyways i've contacted a mate and hes got some SMC Spidermite Control- theres 1/2 a bottle left he said that should get rid of it + to clean my rooms as i use to after each grow.

..If this does not do it i will be investing in either Plant Vitality+, Blockout, SBPI & some smoke bombs, but im really hoping i dont have to.

Does anyone have any experience with SMC Spidermite Control?

Thanks again, really grateful for the help
Sticky

neem oil will make them sterile... they will not be able to produce live eggs..

pulled from wikipidooo

Caution:

Neem seed oil has also been found to prevent implantation and may even have an abortifacient effect similar to pennyroyal, juniper berries, wild ginger, myrrh and angelica. The effects were seen as many as ten days after fertilization in rats though it was most effective at no more than three days. (Sinha, et al., 1984); (Lal et al., 1985). In a study on rats, neem oil was given orally eight to ten days after implantation of the fetus on the uterine wall. In all cases, by day 15, the embryos were all completely resorbed by the body. The animals regained fertility on the next cycle showing no physical problems. Detailed study of the rats revealed increased levels of gamma interferon in the uterus. The neem oil enhanced the local immune response in the uterus.(Mukherjee, 1996) Post coital use of neem oil as birth control does not appear to work by hormonal changes but produces changes in the organs that make pregnancy no longer viable (Tewari, 1989) (Bardham, 1991).

Studies done when Azadirachtin (the primary active pesticidal ingredient in Neem oil) was approved as a pesticide showed that when Neem leaves were feed to male albino rats for 11 weeks, 100% (reversible) infertility resulted.

Neem oil and other neem products such as neem leaves and neem tea should not be consumed by pregnant women, women trying to conceive, or children. Long-term use can cause liver damage..


it works believe it..

i've used smc , it stinks ! and turned my slight lsf to plant trashing lsf it does help but only kills on contact. iirc you can make it out of rapeseed oil (canola) hypoallergenic liquid soap and im sure the was something else you put in ......?

So should i not use it?.. my mate said he used it and it worked and he also used couple smoke bombs he said that was a good extra. I dont think i can get anything till midweek as i would have to order Monday for next day delivery.. why did you use if for LSF?.. i thought it was for Spidermites hence why its called Spidermite Control ?..

Maby i could make a weak solution?

eta: or i take you had LSF and SMs ?.. im sure i dont have lsf as far as i know.

yeah had slight lsf and sm , sm was no where near as bad as yours but after using a full bottle (over 2 weeks) they hadnt gone but lsf had got worse than ive ever seen on here.

if you're still in veg or even early flower id go for one of the 'mectin sprays . if you have a pet shop close by get some treatment for mites on birds and mix it with water then spray felix did a good thread on it but cant remember which it was? something about abermectin maybe?

felix used harkers - harkamectin , has a pic of a pidgeon on the box

What`s your extraction like Sky? And did you remove infected leaves before you sprayed?

had a 10 and 6 pulling out and an 8 and 4 pushing in , room was 15 sq metres and 3m high. lsf wasnt bad enough to pull off leaves just the very odd spot

I`l be honest Sky i remove a leaf even if it`s just got one spot and it seems to work,just imagine losing 20% of your leaves compared to a full blown attack? I regularly remove dodgy leaves,maybe 1-2 a night per plant, does no damage.

Right im really baffaled at what im gonna do..

..first of all i think imma go for half dose(12.5ml/L) of the SMC, and treat the veg mainly first- even though its minor in there. And because i work perpetually this is really where most my effort goes and has been so i hope they all pull though. Just how do i know if its successful.

Flowering room theres not much else i can do for now, except come to a conculsion on what product to buy to solve this. After a lil wonder around on the search funtion i found alot, but not for plants in flowering- except if you are use organic (Blockout) and/or the bird treatment, as you mentioned Sky its ok for the flowers.

I think i may just have to give it a try in the flowering room with SMC, just for trial and error really- ill be careful of not to get on the flowers. If this doesnt help- ill try one of the above. And let all the ladies finish up, then no growing in the flowering room for a month or so and give it a sterlize, to kill them dam things off.. as i've read they only live on live plants, if none around they'll just die off.

..Comments welcome still.. actually i would be over the moon for more opinions.
Sticky

eta: Just clicked- I've already read that thread by Felix today .. i found a site that delivers Harkers Harka-mectin but takes seven days- i live in the woods. If i remember rightly didnt felix mix 5ml-5L or summin

i nipped off tips or single fingers that had a spot but didnt have any leaves bad enough to take the lot off. when it got bad the plants were stripped back to the buds nothing left but buds and the few little leaves around them

So i remove the all the effected leaves.. before i spray?

cant remember what ratio he mixed it at . most pet shops have it if delivery takes too long

if removing infected leaves then do it by placing the leaf in a sandwich bag then nipping off this ensures you dont drop any mites or eggs

Hey sticky....

I think ratdog was on about leaves with a spot of LSF.. I wouldn't take any leaves off because of Spider Mite damage...
Not till they're proper manky anyway.
Stop the mites and the damage will stop. (easier said than done...)

SBPI seems to be the most reccommended mate... Safe in your flower drobe too.

Good luck!

Hi all,

Would just like to thank you all for the responces. Today i spayed the plants with the SMC, done a 1/2 dose solution 12.5ml/L, although i only used 1/3, so i sprayed the rooms too. I gave the veg room a good spray- although it was minimal in there. And gave the flowering room where its only 2/4 that have the white spots on few leaves, but i gave them all a light spray and was careful to not hit the flowers.

I believe Bug Attack + Defence is not good for flowers. Also i think Felix mentioned Plant Vitality + is not good for the flowers- and not organic.

Stonehenge, i have read that SBPI is good too.. but unsure if its good for flowers yet, still looking. Thanks for looking in.

So on that note, If what i done does not work i will be getting Harkers, as its the flowering room that is more effected, and use it for the veg room again too.

Thanks again all. I'll keep you updated.
Sticky