Heya Feix , youre not reading my post proper like ,
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the name is not really important , we have a responsibility for the environment and im affraid that more a passion in me leans towards that side growing a few plants indoors and living with a few creepy crawlies and dive bombing bad ass fungus gnats , if concentraton is put more on there environment ( i presume the majority are not growing in shitholes) keeping youre plants nice and healthy in what should be the perfect environment the plants ime have no problems dealing with a multitude of problems .
The process of deposing contaminated compost is more hazardous/complicated that that of creating it , and raping one source poisons has so many knock on effect on such a wide range of organisms i wouldn't need to start , but hey lets fu** up the source last time i read the new products like Pyganic dust was a result of shortages .



If you intend using the detergent as a surfactant you will not source one uk that does not have an effect of some sort at cellular or microenvironment level , yukka or agar are the best to source imho , ive used tabaco with some garlic and rapeseed oil on toms with very good results and infact the grow is to say the least surprising , altho its a variety ive never grown so ... in any event you need to TEST ON ONE plant first .

Organic/natural gardening call it what you will its about soil fertility its easy enough keeping plants healthy enough to battle natures worst outside without resorting to hand in pocket quick fix chemicals , and to dangerous or more so stupid for anybody to use without knowledge of the consequences Im 30 or so days into flower , i have springtails , 9/12 grows ive had these , fungus gnats , from compost i no because there were flying out of the bag at a pot up stage a lingering fugal problem that alot on here are encountering and the usual loft friendlies ive resorted to teetree on one foliar very early on , im no gardener and certainly no academic but my eye sites fine and they look good enough for me .
Correct/reply as you wish Feilx i have no time or more so the wish to reply and over quote etc so please dont think im being ignorant , just better things to do , good luck .

Hi TS,

Not sure how to reply to you there man as I'm not sure what your point is. I'd agree with you that it's best to grow in a natural manner and in my own garden outdoors I do strive to achieve a natural balance without using any chemicals at all, accepting a certain amount of loss as a natural consequence. However I'd not be adverse to using some chemicals indoors when growing in a highly artificial environment that doesn't have the normal checks and balances that you'd find outdoors.

I'm aware of all the predators we could buy but getting a viable self replenishing community established is not going to happen so sometimes we are called upon to take corrective action if a particular organism gets out of balance. A few fungus gnats aren't going to bother anyone and if they stay at low levels then there's no reason to take any action at all but should a population explode then my own personal opinion would be to treat quickly and use the smallest amount possible.

Not all insecticides are dangerous when used properly and many come from natural sources that decompose very swiftly when in contact with soil or sunlight. I'm not trying to diss you here but do think that there is a place for useful and beneficial chemicals when growing in a highly artificial environment.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned I don't have time to read the whole topic but mixing a little neem cake in the compost surface eradicated fungus gnats, in addition neem cake is a great organic fertiliser.

yo dudes
tonight when i was watering my pots i found what it looked like was a maggot noticed alot of files flying around when im watering at the top of the soil. Ive managed to get from b&q the yellow sticky traps people have mentioned, but i'm going to get some sharp sand pronto!

Is the maggot a bad sign? whats it doing to my roots ???
first time i've came across this problem and im dreadin the worse as i'm 7weeks into flowering

Mr.Nice

Could anyone say what neem cake is, I'm familiar with neem oil?

please keep simple, I'm no cook


Cheers

Read up on tobacco mosaic virus first and wear glove's boil the tobacco in water for a bit let it cool stain the solid's off you dont need detergent as that is a "wetting agent" which you only need if spraying leaves but all in all I would'nt bit to toxic for your microherd if you in compost.

Timescaper
Neem cake is solid neem just a diff form from the oil kind of in simple term's

found this little fukker tonight
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Wonderin' if this type of nicotina
with added bloom
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cheers groovelick.

yep look's like a fungus gnat grub they eat root's but are really only a major threat to seeding's

neem cake is one of bi-products after the cold pressing of the seeds for the oil..............

move

I've had gnats for ages now. Tried the double sided sticky yellow traps (best laid horizontal on the top of the pots imo) and the layer of sand trick (i used JAB horti grade lime free stuff)

These were both quite effective but I found the sand messy and a pain when watering, so I thought 'fuck it..ant powder'

Found 2 types in the garage; rentakilll and growing success, so I opted for the latter

I potted up my plants into their final pots and watered in. Then topped up the compost and puffed some powder over the top. I only did this on half the plants just in case.

That was a week ago and shit me I haven't seen one of the feckers anywhere since

cheers amnesia plenty of advice 4 me thanks 4 ur time son it much appreciated

I've just noticed a influx of Gnats in my grow room.
I looked inside my bubble pots & seen lots of larvae.

It would be impossible for me to use sand.

Should I use Gnat off.?

I've 3 weeks left of flowering

Canadian Express have a relatively new product to deal with Fungas Gnats.
Details here: http://canadianxpress.com/nilnat.html
Although you may be growing in a sealed environment under lights these pests still follow the influence of the moon and go through their various stages of transformation folowing the major phases of the moon. Get a lunar calendar and concentrate your elimination efforts at these times. A spray bottle full of Pest Off solution which is non toxic is useful for killing the adult flies that fly up when you shake the pot. Clay pebbles are inhibative but not preventative.

Gnat off worked fine + sticky traps to catch the ones with wings already, got rid of them in couple of days, water it into the soil

one bottle lasts for 250litres, so its worth the money.

I used 1.5ml to 1 litre