Hi all, Just wondered if anybody can tell me the best way to control the hight of my Girls in my Greenhouse?

I have one Amnesia Haze and one White Rhino. They both should have been topped ages ago but i never got round to it.
They are both over 6 ft tall and the Rhino is like a Christmas Tree and the amnesia is like a bamboo plant
They are both starting to flower and wondered how much taller and wider they will get during the flowering period, and how best to control them (bend them and tie them down)?
Don't really want to mess up the main Cola

Looking like the might hit the Roof of the Greenhouse! got about 8inch left.

Any ideas? Pics soon



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BE EXCELLENT TO EACHOTHER!!!!!!

I would think you're going to have to top,supercrop and tie everything down,you will definately need more headroom though as they can double in size!,i'm still a newbie meself though so i'm sure someone will advise.

They can grow at least a third of there overall height when the flowering process starts and they begin to stretch, the only thing you can do now is try to tie the branches down, so they are growing outwards instead of upwards, been having the same problem, I just tied lots of string across the top of my greenhouse and then tied the branches to these and pulled them to a 40* angle to give them another 8/10 inches of growth, hopefully the stretch will have finished before they hit the top of the greenhouse again. I would not top the plants at this stage because its to late I think now that the plants have started the bloom process.

Good luck,
GG

Thanks Goblin Peace

Any time Medicineman

read about supercropping , i think you're going to need to do this , in addition to just bending and tying down.
When you first do it , you're going to feel bad, but the plants recover quickly and you can quite well control the stretch.
(ps ive not grown amnesia haze , but ill bet that s gonna stretch a looootttt)
best of luck sir , and im sure youll be a'reet

Don't you think its to late for supercropping now the plants outside have already started flowering?

Peace,
GG

It should just stop on top and put all its energy into the lower bud sites.

Maybe I should dig a hole in the greenhouse and sink the pot to allow for the extra hight........hmmmmm

That would help a bit.

Remember as you bring the lower foliage closer to the ground you will increase the chance of rot though. Perhaps place gravel or something on the ground directly beneath it?

ii should perhaps take my own advice , and do some reading.
but then what have i been doing ?
have i really done myself over?
i thought it was okay .
thankyou sir
peace

mr 'erb seems to think its ok early in flower ,
have a look sir
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...l=supercropping
peace all

Hmmmmmmmmm shall i start the bending???



Ill post some pics tomorrow of the 2 Ladies


Peace

The thing is, the plants are now in flower mode and if the plants are topped this late in the outside growing season your plants stand a real chance of not being able to grow the new shoot tips needed for a decent harvest weight.

Tie them down or as you said your self dig holes and sink the pots but don’t if your aware of any soil born problems because your plants will catch it, if any of the lowest branches are touching the ground cut them off so there are no branches on the first 6 inches of the stem and make sure the air circulation is as good as can be, I probably would have sunk my own but for the fact that I have concrete flags on the floor, I have had to tie my branches down many times for stealth reasons and it has not failed me to date, I have also done a lot of supercropping too but not when the plants have already started to flower, after all you want you plants to concentrate on growing bud and not trying to grow foliage for the mature shoot tips needed to carry heavy buds, personally if I had no option for whatever reason but to top my plants, I would first put them under my HPS on 18/6 for at least 2 weeks before topping them to get them back to full vegetative growth, then I would leave them under the HPS on a 18/6 cycle until the new growth was as I want it to be with fully mature new shoot tips and then I would put them back into the 12/12 cycle, but you cannot do this if you only have a greenhouse and no indoor grow room, do some reading there is loads on here to last a life time and then make your own mind up is the best advice, knowledge is every thing when it comes to growing decent weed.

Peace,
GG

At least if you bend them the branches will be fully mature now and ready to take the weight of lovely heavy buds, there is no way if you top them now the new branches will be no where near as mature and it will probably mean a later harvest and less bud weight, because the buds will not grow properly if the branches there growing on are not mature enough to grow mature bud.
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Peace,
GG

Also do not sink them if the ground floods after heavy rain because the pot will be to wet for to long and will rot the roots if to wet for to long.

Peace,
GG

Cheers for the advice GG. When i bend them over do you take care not to go to snapping point? Bend them as much as they will allow?
I'm thinking of pulling the top 2 feet down to 90 degrees from the main stem. Hopefully this will allow for the extra height they need......... I should be ok for width:)


Peace

medicine ,
have a look at the supercropping thread i started today, quite a few folks have reassured me about sc-ing in flower.

peace sir

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...=190382&hl=

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Thnx Geeepwr.

hmmmm i think im going to gently bend a little......alot! Hopefully causing zero damage allowing her to concerntrate on the flowering

Peace

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A pic of the White Rhino.......you can see the top of the Amnesia thats behind the Rhino.....The Amnesia is a Leggy Lady ..

Any advice on what i should be Pruning off ?

dont prune anything mate, just tie a string to near the top and gently pull it to one side.. then fix the other end ..

id go with that

allthough suppercropping is ace and something we will do in our grow next year
my advice from my mistakes would be to wait until you harvest then practice it on the plants when it dosn't matter its NOT that easy to do without damage if your new to it imho.

OOOOPPPS! SH*T ! I just snapped her!!! Doh! About 16ins from the top........ do i leave her with a snapped bent top or cut it off? ???


I hope she will recover

Peace

leave it leave it
DONT cut it off.
you'll be surprised ..
if youre really worried ive used a bit of honey and wraped in sellotape .it'll still make a knuckle and flower
(i dont know if this is what all will advise , but ive done it before .....and ive seen one of the ol'boys doit too on here . cant remember who.)

imho its a weed it wants to grow , and you're really early into flower (youre outside right ..and not force flowering?)
peace
good luck

tape it up.. quick!!

I snapped one of my lower branches on my outdoor white rhino, then grabbed the 2" gaffa tape and wrapped it around a few times and hey presto good as new. Amazing plants.

Ive Taped her up ..... Fingers crossed.

As above MM,

Don't cut it off, tape it up nice and tight but try to make sure its lined up right, sorry probably to late for advice now, but taping it up usually works if the snap is not to severe, I said 40* angle, 90* would have been to much any way, it would have blocked the sun out, just bend them so they have 8 to 10 to grow upwards and if they reach the top again pull them down again, but only pull them down enough to just give them enough growing space and they will be fine. I have 12 6ft plants in my greenhouse and they are all tied down and doing great, the top 12 inches has now turned upwards again and growing healthy and if they reach the top again like some of them already have, I just tie them down again leaving about 8 to 10 inches for new growth but hopefully they will stop soon and go into full flower production.

Good luck,
GG

Cheers GG... I just gave her a feed and all seems well. The top of the rhino seem healthy to me still starting to flower I think she will be ok....Thnx Peeps!

sa said already,if you dont want to top them now,then just tie then to the floor wiv string .ive got to do it to 2 old cheese mums ive got outside,they ar 5 to 6 foot tall to

I always tie my girls down.

How are they lookin now MedicineMan.

Peace,
GG

Hi GG....All looking good . The Rhino is ok..The top flower is still developing. She has a 90 degree bend in the stem then the flower points up again. Happy Dayz! I'm going to have to do some more tying down as she is starting to bush out.

I'll get some pics on in the next couple of days.


I also put a Pakistan Lowryder in the green house at the begining of August, Very late i know (It is 18 days old from the first signs of life). She don't seem to be doing sh@t!!! So i've started bringing her in of an evening and put her under some CFL's to make her light to 20hrs, Hopefully this might help her....She aint ever going to finish in 55 days ....Has any body else grown the Pakistani Ryder?

Peace

I grew an auto Hindu Kush, it wasn't bad, it yielded abut 18g if I remember correctly. I've grown quite a few different auto strains now and they all seem to always take at least 10 weeks and sometimes a couple more so don't worry if it doesn't look like much yet. Putting it under CFLs after dark (for 18hrs light) is what I did too and it seems to be much, much, more effective than just growing dwarf autos outside. Good luck with her

That just looks fantastic. nice work m8

Hiya MM,

Looking good mate, I have 12 plants in a 9ftx6ft plastic greenhouse that are all 6.5ft tall and were all hitting the top so I have branches tied down all over the place, it will take longer to remove all the ties than it will to harvest the plants. Just try to tie them in the best posistion for the most sun light.

Good luck,
GG

Cheers all


Just gave her another 5 ltrs of go go juice there drinking loads in this heat 5 ltrs a day......Had to take a few pains of glass out the greenhouse to try to get temps down....also got a Fan in there,,,...Its amazing just how much heat the girls can take, its been like 50 degrees in there before and the tomatoes hated it but my girls just sucked it up .....I try to keep the air moving most of the time wich keeps temps below 40 degrees in the blazing sun (when we have it!)....Normally around 20 to 30 degrees in there ......any good ideas to mask smell? I got some mint and chives etc in there and there doing ok but i was wondering about one of those plug in deoderisers? what you reckon?

Oh, and how much will the Rhino and the Amnesia smell when in full swing?


Got any pics GG ? Are they starting to flower? I bet you can't move in your greenhouse



Peace

Hiya MM,

Keep as much ventilation as possible, try to leave doors and windows open 24/7 if you can and this will help keep the aroma to a minimum. My uk cheese really start to stink at 4 weeks and it just get worse from here on until harvest, we just have to improvise and do what we can, if you have a veg patch and a comfrey plant, make your own nutrient from the comfrey and the stink from this will mask almost any thing.
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Peace,
GG

Will do ...How did you wangle youre Original cheese clones? friends in Hight places?

Peace
MM

Do you have messenger switched off?

dunno ..... ill look :0 noob on ere


MM


Nope....not Disabled.

Peace

Hiya MM,

Check your settings again, it says you have either disabled messenger or are a member of a group not allowed to send PM messages, but you have more than 10 posts so should be able to send/recieve PM's, check it out and PM me.

Peace,
GG

Hmmm it aint having none of it.....its as if im not allowed to .....keep getting"The error returned was:

You are not allowed to use the messenger feature on this board".....



Peace

Get in touch with joolz, he will sort it out m8. Then PM me.
Peace,
GG

AHhhhh I need a few more posts i think "Guests and New Members cannot access the chat room.
You need to be a full member with a minimum of 50 posts"


Peace
MM

Get Posting MM and Pm me M8 when you have had 50. I'm sure I could send PM's after 10 posts, rules must have changed or I've forgot?

Peace,
GG

Will do m8



Peace

hows it going mm,
did your plant recover?

Hi Geeepwr....Thanks for asking.....All looking good here looking healthy and starting to flower everywhere

Ill get some pics up soon.


Peace
MM

A quick update on the Plop Ryder (Pakistan ryder).
She still aint doing sh@t. 22days from germination and 6 inches tall and still has'nt developed a full set of fingered leaves...Hmmmm.

I remember reading somewhere about a seed company had mixed up some of there seed and it was some of the Lowryder strains if i remember rightly that somehow got swapped with some other Non Auto seeds. Anyone else remember reading about this?

I could have a Dodgey pack! Have to wait and see i suppose.

Peace
MM