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dazednconfused
Ive been considering my first grow for a while and my plans have changed quite a lot along the way. Since reading threads on people getting busted i now think it probably better for me to have one plant in flower and one in veg at a time. So one plant vegged and flowered under a 400w hid in a 1.2x2.00 tent in soil, I ideally want to be able to smoke an ounce per week on a constant roll. If this was your setup and you had no cuttings to work from, what seedbank and strain would you grow
jaymuls1975
have a look at scrogs if you only intend one growing 1 plant
dazednconfused
btw, i would like to grow something yigh yielding that gives you the giggles etc rather than parylises you to the sofa and makes you wish you never smoked it lol.gif
Mister_dee
I have a friend with similar needs, he ended up with the following

1.2m tent x 2
600 watt x2
10" fan
4" fan x2
y splitter
10" filter
Aquafarm x2
Budbox "yield shelf" x2

Two tents side by side with 600w and a water farm in each, extraction tubing from both tents to the y piece then to fan and filter. 4" fan in each on for intake.
Whilst ones in flower the other is vegging, as he crops the other one is ready to switch to flower so it's 8 weeks exactly between crops. It's a very nice system he has running and 8 weeks vegging in an aquafarm from seed gives amazing results. Full net every time.
granted it's not a weekly crop but it's a good yielder.




Mister_dee
Misread the first post lol.gif

I'd give Himalayan Gold a chance, seen it grown and it's a decent yielder and I had a wee schmoke and it was a nice social high, plenty of laughs.
dazednconfused
Cheers, im not looking for a weekly crop but when i do crop i want to be able to have an ounce a week to smoke without running out before my next crop. I also havent smokedany weed in a long time that hasnt superglued me to my sofa, i want to grow ome proper old skool giggler but dont knw what
dazednconfused
QUOTE (Mister_dee @ Aug 11 2009, 07:57 PM) *
Misread the first post lol.gif

I'd give Himalayan Gold a chance, seen it grown and it's a decent yielder and I had a wee schmoke and it was a nice social high, plenty of laughs.



lol.gif you posted that while i was typing, cheers. Any other opinions?
lazi
You can average an ounce per week from a 1.2m x 1.2m tent without a separate veg area using 600w hps for veg as well as flower and from seed every time.
dazednconfused
QUOTE (lazi @ Aug 11 2009, 08:19 PM) *
You can average an ounce per week from a 1.2m x 1.2m tent without a separate veg area using 600w hps for veg as well as flower and from seed every time.


With what strains? In soil?
madgiz
QUOTE (dazednconfused @ Aug 11 2009, 08:02 PM) *
i want to grow ome proper old skool giggler but dont knw what

Mate I think this strain might be right up your street..clicky
lazi
You're quite right in planning for the bust. That's the day we don't want to have a full on NASA style groom. I like passive hydro because it looks like a soil grow, no plumbing to the pots or pumps etc. Credit the police with enough nouse to tell the difference between percy and 'mersh. You ain't going to become a property magnet from growing one pack of seeds at a time. You know that, they know that and seeds come in packs of up to 15.

The big plus, bust wise, is that you'll have no veg area, meaning no moms, cuts, clones or propagation equipment. You're percy, use whatever number of plants, up to 15, that suits you best. I doubt it'll make £20 difference in the fine whether you have 2 or 15.

I do 5 at a time in that space, am thinking of cutting it down to 4, they can look a bit overgrown in there sometimes.

If you plan on doing soil because you already grow stuff in soil or would like to become an organic grower etc. that's fair enough. Being flat broke is also a good reason, can't argue the cheapness of soil but if you think that soil is the easiest option, you're wrong and the grow in my sig prooves that. I've said before that imo hempy buckets will give the first time grower the best yield IF they don't try to 'impove' it. Plenty of posts on it and plenty of hempy bucket grow diaries for you to drool over.

Strain is important to hit your target but there's a wide choice. At 37.5w psf, ime the heavy hitters are out, I got poor results with Medicine Man and AK 47, both gave me airy buds. Use the 600w in a smaller space if you must have those type of strains. Obviously no sats like Kali Mist or SSH, they take too long.

That leaves a heap of choices in the middle range. If a grower using 600w in the same space reports that the yields of strain x were ok and it was good toke, then that'll do, you're only looking for an ounce per square foot. Plenty of good reports on Paradise feminised seeds.

Keep it simple and the best way to do that is remember that your objective is to be toking an ounce per week, not be forever chasing 'more yield'. Use common sense and it'll be less than 4 months from opening your first seed pack to you being self sufficient but please, no paper towel method or pre soak for starting the beans.


dazednconfused
OK lazi, let me start by saying thanks for the input. Secondly I am as high as a mofo right now so can you tell me what is a hempy bucket for one lol.gif. I dont know but i seem to think that if i grow in soil then the popo will have less to hold against me, also not having to worry about ph etc means i have to buy less equipment. You have to bear with me as i am a complete noob so considering what i have said so far in this thread, and my goal of 1 oz to chong a week, how would i achieve this. Thanks
garanblates
QUOTE (lazi @ Aug 12 2009, 12:12 PM) *
but please, no paper towel method or pre soak for starting the beans.


Why is this?
lazi
QUOTE (garanblates @ Aug 13 2009, 12:01 AM) *
QUOTE (lazi @ Aug 12 2009, 12:12 PM) *
but please, no paper towel method or pre soak for starting the beans.


Why is this?


Short answer is because it often gives rise to posts like: Started 10 seeds, 7 sprouted but 3 didn't make it.


Long answer: It is only cannabis seeds that people bother using presoak and paper towels. No other forms of gardenings bother with it. Back in the stone age (pre cheap internet) most street weed was seeded and there was no shortage of bagseed if you could score. The germination rate was low and so the paper towel method evolved. If you wanted 10 plants, soak 50 beans, plant the first 20 that crack and a week later you've got 15+ plants. Keep the healthiest 10, bin the rest and away you go, 10 plants from bagseed.

When fresh seeds became available to everyone, there were many growers using the paper towel method and they taught it to others even though it was no longer needed and counter productive. With experience you can get close to 100% with the paper towel method so no point in those that have been through the learning curve changing a thing.

This is where someone will post saying 'I've always got 100% results using paper towels right from the start'. Well plenty haven't had 100% results from the start and way too many have had 4, 5 or 6 plants first grow when they wanted 10.

As a brand new grower, you've got nothing to 'unlearn' so why not start with a germination method that is always 100%, rather than a method that can give poor results until experienced.

The method I use I got from another grower but over the years have dumbed it down as far as I can. Good for most forms of hydro except nft and bubblers/aero with tiny netpots.

For soil, copy growers like Arnold Layne, the principle is the same.
knobbyknome
QUOTE (lazi @ Aug 12 2009, 12:12 PM) *
You're quite right in planning for the bust. That's the day we don't want to have a full on NASA style groom. I like passive hydro because it looks like a soil grow, no plumbing to the pots or pumps etc. Credit the police with enough nouse to tell the difference between percy and 'mersh. You ain't going to become a property magnet from growing one pack of seeds at a time. You know that, they know that and seeds come in packs of up to 15.

The big plus, bust wise, is that you'll have no veg area, meaning no moms, cuts, clones or propagation equipment. You're percy, use whatever number of plants, up to 15, that suits you best. I doubt it'll make £20 difference in the fine whether you have 2 or 15.

I do 5 at a time in that space, am thinking of cutting it down to 4, they can look a bit overgrown in there sometimes.

If you plan on doing soil because you already grow stuff in soil or would like to become an organic grower etc. that's fair enough. Being flat broke is also a good reason, can't argue the cheapness of soil but if you think that soil is the easiest option, you're wrong and the grow in my sig prooves that. I've said before that imo hempy buckets will give the first time grower the best yield IF they don't try to 'impove' it. Plenty of posts on it and plenty of hempy bucket grow diaries for you to drool over.

Strain is important to hit your target but there's a wide choice. At 37.5w psf, ime the heavy hitters are out, I got poor results with Medicine Man and AK 47, both gave me airy buds. Use the 600w in a smaller space if you must have those type of strains. Obviously no sats like Kali Mist or SSH, they take too long.

That leaves a heap of choices in the middle range. If a grower using 600w in the same space reports that the yields of strain x were ok and it was good toke, then that'll do, you're only looking for an ounce per square foot. Plenty of good reports on Paradise feminised seeds.

Keep it simple and the best way to do that is remember that your objective is to be toking an ounce per week, not be forever chasing 'more yield'. Use common sense and it'll be less than 4 months from opening your first seed pack to you being self sufficient but please, no paper towel method or pre soak for starting the beans.


imo very sensible good advise regards kk
sam-i-am
QUOTE (dazednconfused @ Aug 11 2009, 07:46 PM) *
and makes you wish you never smoked it lol.gif


That strain is called "tobacco" I avoid it like the plague
withnail
QUOTE (Gsxr @ Aug 13 2009, 12:58 AM) *
Mate i doubt police will have less to hold against a soil grow compared to others. Its simple growing is growing



Afraid not mate , Hydro is seen as an aggravating factor in growing its considered a superior method of growing and counts against you.


Have a read through the link Here if you want more info cool.gif
batfuds
QUOTE (withnail @ Aug 14 2009, 09:36 AM) *
QUOTE (Gsxr @ Aug 13 2009, 12:58 AM) *
Mate i doubt police will have less to hold against a soil grow compared to others. Its simple growing is growing



Afraid not mate , Hydro is seen as an aggravating factor in growing its considered a superior method of growing and counts against you.


Have a read through the link Here if you want more info cool.gif



I think this is very true and have always avoided "Starship Enterprise" [A.K.A. NASA..] growrooms for just this reason

Supposedly Legal Spain is the same but worse. Recently I saw in one Lads mag here the story of a bunch of Barcelona Hooligans [Boixs Nois] who got caught running a Coke and E ring, importing, but still also messing around with a 200 plant indoor grow "to finance it all" {ROFL...} using a "sophisticated watering system" ... in truth this was just a shite mess of feed hoses, but it got spun up into a major threat to society and small fluffy bunnies, DEA style....

My mate who grows indoors here runs drain to waste Coco for just this reason, it looks like Low Tech soil, no pipes around, nothing scary....

Do be aware though, Pigs in the UK seem to love taking computers and having a good look around, so, make sure your home PC is as innocent as your grow....
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