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weedmonsta
not sure if these have been posted before i couldnt find them



ratdog
Well i like the cut of his jib, sounds convincing to me, I like the thought that the thing about pot that makes us absent minded could be behind pain control. stoned.gif
Arbuscule
I liked that too, but I'm gonna have to go back to it again and ponder

The first thing that came to mind was yahoo.gif to our beautiful herb guitar.gif

The 2nd thing was a note of caution about generalising about any medicine. Maybe he overegged the point unsure.gif Mind you, to be fair, there's very little room in 2 10 minuit presentations for caveats and my reservation would have complicated if not diluted his spiel. In talking about pain meds though, it seems basic to say about how widely responses vary to all meds, prescription or otherwise.
Arnold Layne
Can't see or hear what's being said but I do suffer with Neuropathic pain, plenty. And AFAIAC, when it comes to analgesia, Cannabis is about much use as a kick in the privvies. Sorry, but that's just the bottom line. For some of us - it is useless as analgesia. In fact some days I would say it makes matters a whole heap worse.
And I am not alone.
adarkplace
QUOTE (Arnold Layne @ Aug 11 2009, 07:44 AM) *
Can't see or hear what's being said but I do suffer with Neuropathic pain, plenty. And AFAIAC, when it comes to analgesia, Cannabis is about much use as a kick in the privvies. Sorry, but that's just the bottom line. For some of us - it is useless as analgesia. In fact some days I would say it makes matters a whole heap worse.
And I am not alone.


I have never found cannabis to help with pain relief either, in fact when I am in pain and stoned it makes it feel worse because I am concentrating on it more!

The only occasion it works for me is helping with tense muscles.
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Arnold Layne
Thanks for posting adarkplace; I know quite a few folks who share or experience, finding cannabis a less than useful analgesic. But some stoners wont hear of it, and insist cannabis cures everything, and cancels allpain. I've watched folsk being urged to throw their pain meds away before now and it makes me really rather annoyed. Folks in pain do not need to be misled and misnformed by a bunch of canna-nuts.
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Ranting today, peripheral neuropathy is banging out a nasty rhythm of -algias, sorry.

But yeah, muscle relaxant Cannabis most certainly is! Plus it potentiates other (working) analgesics, thus reducing the doseage required; which is nice.
bartman
QUOTE (Arnold Layne @ Aug 11 2009, 07:44 AM) *
Can't see or hear what's being said but I do suffer with Neuropathic pain, plenty. And AFAIAC, when it comes to analgesia, Cannabis is about much use as a kick in the privvies. Sorry, but that's just the bottom line. For some of us - it is useless as analgesia. In fact some days I would say it makes matters a whole heap worse.
And I am not alone.



Hi Arnie,

Just a thought mate because my experience is somewhat different to yours.
To what extent do you think your experience may be due to excess caffeine intake ?
I dont do caffeine as a norm because it plays havoc with my pain management.

Could it be a possibility that high levels of caffeine are partly responsible for agitating your cannabinoid receptors so much so that they just won't settle sufficiently for THC/CBD to bind to them ? (or something like)

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Arnold Layne
Bartman, glad you have better experience of cannabis-analgesia than me man, and even more glad because I know yours is the majority experience thumbsup.gif

I have tried going without caffeine before and it made little difference; but that was around ten years ago, so it may well be time for a re-test. I'll gird my loins up, because ditching coffee is a really hard thing for me to do. Its my one remaining vice, ffs! Bah! But I'm willing to try it. How long do you reckon the trial should run for? It probably takes a month or more for caffeine detox to complete unsure.gif ?? So let's say two months for that, a month for the rial? Nah, let's say two for both - four months sound a good target to you?

lol.gif Some days I'd give up almost anything if I felt it'd get rid of the blasted neuralgias.
bartman
QUOTE (Arnold Layne @ Aug 11 2009, 10:22 AM) *
So let's say two months for that, a month for the rial? Nah, let's say two for both - four months sound a good target to you?


oh 'eck. what've I done spliff.gif
in advance. @MRS L SORRY



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Some days I'd give up almost anything if I felt it'd get rid of the blasted neuralgias.


yeh but even coffee.
you ?
fair play to you mate for giving it a go.
no, really.
i hope it works for you unsure.gif

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StonedSkunk
I find that cannabis on its own does nothing for pain relief but when I takle it with the painkillers, it seems to help.

It does however, help with the constant muscle spasms that I have and helps to give me an appetite that the pharms medications take away.

I dont believe that it is the cure all that some peeps would have us believe.

I have been caffeine free for the last 2 years and I really feel better for it.

Just my 2 cents woth ..

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KC
I can safely say it does nothing for my sciatica, although it does lift the spirit which in turn helps a bit. I do wonder sometimes if eating will help? I'm gonna make some bubble later, i'm not sure i can feel anything when i smoke that ....we'll see how it fairs with pain unsure.gif
Bhang Buddie
Thanx for that movie, I've grown and smoked for a while now and use it to help quell my bodies aches and pains - arthiritis etc., - however I also like to get wrecked as I started smoking long before I ever had physical aches and pains. It also helped me (back in the 60's) when I was prescribed Cannabis Tincture by a very enlightened Doctor Dunbar - there was also some (rockband) guy by the name of Ainsley Dunbar around then - however Dr D, now he was a nice guy Dr D spliff.gif
j.a.g
i feel that most the problems are down to smoking,i find that for about 20 mins after smoking anything my pain is worse be that tobacco or cannabis but after that initial burst of pain the weed helps,doesn't stop pain but makes you not care about it as much
Fallen-Angel
QUOTE (bartman @ Aug 11 2009, 08:47 AM) *
Hi Arnie,

Just a thought mate because my experience is somewhat different to yours.
To what extent do you think your experience may be due to excess caffeine intake ?
I dont do caffeine as a norm because it plays havoc with my pain management.

Could it be a possibility that high levels of caffeine are partly responsible for agitating your cannabinoid receptors so much so that they just won't settle sufficiently for THC/CBD to bind to them ? (or something like)

cool.gif


I wonder if you have something there Bartman because I found cannabis much better as pain relief when I had to give up caffeine some years ago, I suddenly developed an adverse reaction to it and would pee blood whenever I drank it sad.gif

Mind you I now take so much in the way of prescription meds including Zomorph and Oramorph that I think it is a combination of both things that gives me relief, the biggest help I got from cannabis was for the spasms I was suffering from in my lower back and legs, I now take Methcarbamol for the spasms which has made a major difference. Cannabis is also good for helping me to sleep for a little longer at nights 3hrs unbroken sleep compared to just 1 or 2 without cannabis.

My daughter (aged 17) finds that she does get a lot of relief for the arthritis in her knees, hips, wrists and elbows whether that is because she is not a regular user of it and hasn't been using it for pain relief for very long I don't know, she smokes it or uses my canna cream.

x
Arnold Layne
QUOTE (Fallen-Angel @ Aug 18 2009, 01:35 PM) *
Mind you I now take so much in the way of prescription meds including Zomorph and Oramorph that I think it is a combination of both things that gives me relief

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The combination of cannabis & morphine is about as good an analgesic as is possible to find IMO. Gold standard, sort of thing.

Most interested in your daughter's experience; I think you're right - recreational use does not do us any favours in terms of needing it later as therapy.
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