I know people always say that every plant is different and it's impossible to say but as i'm talking about clone only uk cheese it should be a level playing field.

I've grown 5 plants veged under 250mh for 8 weeks, then into NFT tank under 600+400hps and the best i've got it 18oz dry. Now i know cheese isn't a big yeilder but i just want to make sure i'm not missing a trick.

So if you've got experiance with cheese and recon you get better results then let me know how you did it. Nothing wrong with a bit of willy waving.

Bud

Thats what i'm worried about, having someone to compare notes with could be what i need. I've always thought 1/2g per watt was a bit piss poor. The plants seem happy as larry untill 6 weeks flower and then the leaves begin to go a bit yellow. Will get some N to throw at them for next time. I chop at 8 weeks to. Should i leave them a little longer?

No offence, but you must move in some exalted green circles DT. I rarely exceeded .75gpw when growing the UK Cheese. It was under a 250watt in my usual small 'drobe.

As to the level playing field - well, maybe not! There are many variations of "UK Cheese", its really very hard to be confident one has the original cut. And some folks may well have abused the cut you have, or it Mother, and left it a tad weak.
TBH, there's better dope out there than UK Cheese. Its nice, but there's nicer. "Blues" is very close to it in many ways (some folk say they are one and the same but I disagree, having grown both side by side), and that has resulted in Killer Skunk being a good one to go for if a Cheese equivalent is your goal.

IME, UK Cheese could go for 1 - 1.5 GPW given first rate environment and growing skills to match. For most of us, .75 - 1 GPW is a good target to aim at realistically speaking.

Fookin nonsense, seems to be your speciality DT...

budda, yeah, 18oz doesn't seem too bad at all, maybe mess around with plant numbers a bit, a couple more plants, slightly less veg time....I would maybe expect a slightly higher yield per watt, just because you are vegging for a very long time, but 18oz is fine, just fine, and you should be able to tweak things about a bit and improve on it bit by bit....

Monk...x

E2A, like Arnie, I wasn't too impressed with UK Cheese, I didn't get anywhere near an oz/watt, and I don't like the taste particularly, tastes a bit bleachy to me, and didn't find the high to be all that special......but, it was competing for space with an Aeric77 clone at the time, so no competition really,

I do wonder how many people have the real cheese, i've never found cheese to be bleachy when i've smoked it. I've been given cheese cuts from the fairy but funnily enough i've never grown cheese

I'm starting to think anything vaguely stinky just gets called cheese now

fucking 1 g per watt ha ha i got 3.25 oz of each of my cheese last time bigger pots bigger yield with cheese i found veg time makes little difference.
i have only had my 600 watt for 6 months and my killers dont yeild as well but smoke as good as anything i have grown,not got the veg room for bigger pots less yield on killers imho.
i am getting 430 gram with 4 cheese and 2 killers in a budbox 1.2x1.2 x2m

dt your claims over the last few weeks have been
proofs in the pudding lets see some of these grows
and dont foget its 30 days veg to get the true gram per watt...

I usually set out around 6am in my combine to harvest my cheese, finish around teatime with 400 bales off one envirolight, 125w mind none of your 250's here.

I grow enough bud to keep me high forever, why do you weigh it?, 17 years growing and if i have another 17 left i will never know how much i get from a plant, i'm happy with what i get.

Like AL say's, the chance of getting the ORIGINAL UK Cheese is like winning the lottery, very slim.
Not worth the hassle imho

right on Grandad im happy as long as i dont run out of bud & can be stoned always, id much rather have quality bud that when you smoke a whole fatty to yourself you feel like you've been hit in the face with a spade

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Similar to me that mucker..,think my 6 big buddha cheese did about 640 'odd gram from 6 plants.


...I concurr...


if thats how ya spell it..


e2a.....aint got a foookin clue how i did that double quote post thing??!.

double e2a...just realised thats over mi gram per watt....gwaaaan bizzi ya twat..

i only weighed it up so i could compare allmix to cheaper soil like you lot i dont run out so im happy.

Thanks for the input everyone. I only weigh it because i like to see if i'm improving. If i can grow more productively then i can cut down on my lights and more importantly leccy bills. Well i'm going for 20oz next time and probably the time after that and after that ect..... untill i get there

Yeah in your world 88oz probably does dry to 39.5oz...

When you grow for yourself, and you dry your bud properly you will learn that the wet weight is made up of 80% percent water!

88oz wet is no more than 18oz when properly dry.

So what your saying is for Owderb to increase his yields, he needs to weigh his bud wet?

My problem? Apart from being really really jealous of you? I just like a bit of shit stirring when I see an easy opportunity..., and some peeps make it easier than others....

Monk...x

No Doris you ought to digest things

Read what VRG said...Do you really believe that 88oz of wet bud when properly dry weighs 39.5oz....If you do then you are not as smart as i thought you were

And all dry in 7 days too

Owd

I'll ask again





Owd

I thought of summat else too

When they were weighed wet that would include stalks and branches too I would think, unless all buds were taken off the branches before drying

Owd

You get more like 20% of your wet weight than 50... he might seem genuine, like many people do over the net, but really you gotta wonder how dry it was

I think he did read it right Doris, what weight of water do you think fresh cut bud holds? I'll give you a clue, a turgid whole plant it is about 76% water, leaves are over 85% water in weight for water grown and about 1 to 2% less for compost grown.

Second fact it takes at least 20 + days for fresh plant material like buds to reach equilibrium to the core with the air around it, thats in a dry air environment, dense buds take longer. After that it takes another 2 months or more for the trichomes to fully loose their H2O but thats only another 0.4% or so off dry equilibrium weight.

We are here to encorage growing for personal gratification, so try and give members the best advise on producing the best quality product that can be grown. We know from long experiance how much fully dried bud you get from the wet weight.

Just to add I’m not denigrating dayj, he has done a grand job with his grow, I don’t think he is lying about his yield, it depends on your standards, if what you know is street weed, then his bud is probably boners, maybe we need to give more attention to drying and curing because it makes so much difference to the final product.

Hold on a minute Doris

First you argue about the yields being correct now you are saying you agree that 1/6 of wet weight is about right

How the hell can anybody compare wet bud weight to dry

We weigh dry bud when its been taken off the branch, or you should, cos that is the final weight, when its fully manicured

When weighed wet like ive said earlier, surely its still attached to the branch

Come on....How many people trim the bud and cut it off the branch(final trim) before drying it, so how can you compare

I'd never even dream about weighing bud wet....pointless cos it means nowt

Owd

And if you look you'll see he gave wet weight too and I know that he must be confused somewhere along the line cos it just isnt possible to lose only 50%(approx) when properly dry

If you know all that then why quote to me "Thats how you do it Owderb"....you must be gullible or just havent got a clue yourself, thats also why folk have pulled you to pieces over your grms/watt claims

You havent backed your claims up with anything, in fact with your posts in this thread how can I take what you say you get seriously...Sorry but I cant

Owd