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elmerfudd
hey all my friend was recently on the recieving end of a nasty sneaky punch from some idiot. he was one of those fools who thinks it makes himself look like a big man to play fight and wrestle with a few pints in them. apparently he was a nice guy till he got drunk then started messin and actin the rock. whil walking to another pub he turned round and struck my unsuspecting friend right on the jaw giving him a compound break blood was just pouring out his mouth into the road in the middle of a busy city.

so not being able smoke i told him i would ask you guys and i would have a method of gettin him stoned and relieving the pain.so please guys could one of the many experts here pls tell me how i can help my friend cos he needs to smile and canna has never failed yet thanks all wink.gif
The Villain
Canna suppository smile.gif
dam
bubble hash milkshake... smile.gif
ripthedrift
QUOTE (The Villain @ Jul 31 2009, 04:20 PM) *
Canna suppository smile.gif






............................... ouch, how much bud to use mate thats the question
geeepwr
yogurt.

(mix with milk and a straw.)
hope he feels better.
Nothing worse than a f###ed jaw


and the other needs to have a word with himself at the very least (or quit booze)

peace
goldie_2007
Some nasty bastards out there,I feel sorry for your friend sad.gif Did they catch the twat who did it, cos I'm sorry to say but I think your friend will perhaps suffer the rest of his life over this stupid act. The jaw is such a delicate area and if the opening and closing action is knocked out of line slightly it can be the start of a whole host of problems. I have alot of trouble with my jaw myself some 8 years long and probably till I die. I find no cannabis can take away maxillofacial pain, just if your zoned out all the time it can be a bit more bearable. Not being able to eat the foods you are used to is depressing enough on its own.

Sorry to be so doom and gloom about it sad.gif

Make him a milkshake like Dam suggests, though if he can get a straw in his mouth am sure he can toot a spliff wink.gif

Goldie yinyang.gif
Hir
could he not get a 'rubber' tube insert joint in one end and tuther up nose?
elmerfudd
he can suck on a straw but the docs told him not to smoke and last night he ate 3grms in a youghart and nothin should he be doin something to it before he eats it thanks for all the replies guys terrific
Boojum
Yep. THC etc are not soluble in water, so eating it unprepared generally results in it passing straight through the stomach with little of the good stuff being absorbed by the stomach. In order to 'activate' it so that the stomach will absorb it you first need to emulsify the cannabis with either fat or alcohol. Basically it needs to be heated in fat or alcohol, you can fry it in oil or butter then add that to a yoghurt or milkshake, or heat a little bit of spirit like vodka (carefully...) and mix the herb into that. Or even just boil some milk, mix in the herb then allow it to simmer for a bit.
geeepwr
look on the cooking section . theres a great canna yog recipe .

canna is MUCH stronger when eaten (esp when mixed with fats), sounless he's proper hardcore go a bit easier than you would if blazing .

(i hope he'll be okay . my jaw and nose are well mashed up from scrote sorts , but i dont have too much grief now from either , quite a lot of clicking and occasional pain when chewing (or jawing!) , but you get used to it and it doesnt affect me too badly ,luckily , although what goldie said is also undoubtedly true . Its the luck of the draw as they say .

(Ps to goldie hope you too find some relief - strangely the more you use it (seems to me) the better it gets (altho slowly slowly)
pps my nose is still a bit roman tho ......
...as in roman allover me freaking face
elmerfudd
thanks guys thats brill we are gonna get stoned as motherfuckers tonite think ill eat some too seeing as ive never done it rofl.gif
roman nose lol.gif ill have to use that one ive a roman one myself wink.gif
callywally
lol.gif blow smoke in his face or something..
dazed&confused
QUOTE (Hir @ Jul 31 2009, 04:32 PM) *
could he not get a 'rubber' tube insert joint in one end and tuther up nose?


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Cheddaz
same thing happened to my m8, told him not to smoke because he couldnt brush his teeth till they took it out. he was happy using a vaporising pipe, no smoke. not as enjoyable as a good joint but it did the job..
getoartist
ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif I hate too hear that pussy's think that they are hard by hitting someone the know ????
this makes geto's as bad as them cause i beleave in turning the others cheek with my fist,
bulling is one thing but switching is the signs of mental unstable poeple,
but i would of been unable to stop myslef form being the guy that made sure he never did that again,
the law let voilent crime slip till its to late,,,,
hope the send cthe cunt to prision,
i am a excon and this kind of behavour is just an excuces to be able to hert someone ,when he through that punch that hurt your mate he knew,
cauces when you make that choice too hurt you must be willing to face the concecquence of your actions 10 fold and that will of got a big
confidace boost so the next time he dos it he thinks he noise what going to happen,up the jail he will cry every night for the first month if we find he is in for vioalance ,then he is not aloud too not fight,
reall bad boyz move in scilence and violance,
OH and we cant spell well too ???
Arnold Layne
QUOTE (getoartist @ Aug 1 2009, 12:45 AM) *
OH and we cant spell well too ???

Try a spellchecker. There's loads of free ones to be had. I can spell alright, but my fingers are now so desensitized due to neck problems that every word needs multiple corrections after typing. But it is worth the effort, as it means folks can read what one types. So please, get one and use it wink1.gif

Folks - this is not Free4all, so can we keep the language in this section reasonably clean, please? We get a lot of folks just browsing the threads in this forum, and I don't see why they should be bombarded with unpleasant language all over the place. It will only stop them reading, and as they are likely to be folks with medicinal needs looking for info on how Cannabis can/might help them it'd be nice if they at least felt they were in a clean and decent environment, wouldn't it? Ta.
Blayz'd
Cooking section man.

Personally, I wouldn't really care what the doctor said. I'd have a tube or straw with a spliff stuck in the end and that would make me happier. Bit of a nightmare that is. Why did the doctor tell him not to smoke? Was it because of him having to move his jaw to smoke regular, or something to do with the smoke? I'd still have my straw and spliff anyway. Sounds worse than normal being a compound too. Nightmare that is.
Arnold Layne
QUOTE (Blayz'd @ Aug 1 2009, 09:00 AM) *
Personally, I wouldn't really care what the doctor said. I'd have a tube or straw with a spliff stuck in the end and that would make me happier.

Same here.
tom o'rite
Did he lose any teeth? I wonder because that's often why you can't smoke after oral surgery. The empty sockets need to clot up properly and suction caused by smoking can cause the clots to pop out and then you end up with bare bone sockets ('dry socket') which take forever to heal and are apparently extremely painful.

I was told not to smoke the last time I had a tooth out. I smoked pipes up my nose for a day then moved onto very loose spliffs with wide roaches and tried to just breathe through them without applying too much suction. Ie don't close your mouth fully when you draw on them to avoid creating a clot-popping vacuum. No problems.
elmerfudd
hey guys he cant smoke cos of the compound and they said its not good for the wound. he also lost two of his wisdom teeth so the suction thing could be why. he reckons after two weeks he is gonna smoke away but he is only gonna smoke pure canna (this is my first grow so we are still on dealer weed).i know how dirty tobacco and last night we were debating what effect canna smoke would have and we came to the agreement that its gotta be better on its own.
Nutes
QUOTE (tom o'rite @ Aug 1 2009, 10:25 AM) *
Did he lose any teeth? I wonder because that's often why you can't smoke after oral surgery. The empty sockets need to clot up properly and suction caused by smoking can cause the clots to pop out and then you end up with bare bone sockets ('dry socket') which take forever to heal and are apparently extremely painful.

I was told not to smoke the last time I had a tooth out. I smoked pipes up my nose for a day then moved onto very loose spliffs with wide roaches and tried to just breathe through them without applying too much suction. Ie don't close your mouth fully when you draw on them to avoid creating a clot-popping vacuum. No problems.



QUOTE (elmerfudd @ Aug 1 2009, 10:58 AM) *
hey guys he cant smoke cos of the compound and they said its not good for the wound. he also lost two of his wisdom teeth so the suction thing could be why. he reckons after two weeks he is gonna smoke away but he is only gonna smoke pure canna (this is my first grow so we are still on dealer weed).i know how dirty tobacco and last night we were debating what effect canna smoke would have and we came to the agreement that its gotta be better on its own.



Hi, sorry to hear about your freind and hopes he makes a swift recovery.

e2a: I realise a tooth aint the jaw but its all connected lol.gif

I have had two of my front teeth knocked out (one was a crown anyway((cracked in two after a stupid hyperventilating thing that was "cool" at school, ffs stupid or what)) and got knocked clean out, root and all, the guy had a fuck off big ring) and one wisdom tooth out, soon to be two. Anyway when i had the extractions, Nick, my dentist, really nice bloke and a very good dentist, who knows what im like explained that i needed lay off the cigs for as long as possible, knowing that i wouldn't wait the 12 or 24 hours or whatever it is they tell you to wait, because the NICOTINE in cigs reduces blood flow and will slow the healing process down and wont make a good clot as a previous poster has said. Im pretty sure if neat canna was smoked then the loss of blood flow would be minimal as compared to a baccy spliff or a fag.

I hope this is in some way helpful to your mates choice making about smoking a bit.

To be honest, even though i had been given some very good freindly advice from someone i trusted and respected, i still only lasted an hour without a fag and i had ripped a bong soon after, my sockets are healed good tho it took longer than it should so i was told and the best bit about being stoned i found was it took the ache and tenderness away from the fromt of my mind and made it more bearable. in no way did it eliminate the pain/tenderness when eating or brushing if it got banged or touched but the general feeling in the mouth was barely noticable most of the time.

I'd "Go for smoke" personally! Just not the cancer causing legal kind.

All the best, hope he heals up nice and quick.

Oh yeah as for the suction thing i was smoking and ripping bongs within four hours of all of my extractions, silly? maybe, but i didn't loose a single clot and all bar one of the front ones which i lost a small piece of jaw bone when it was removed and as a result the gum has sunk a bit have healed up very nicely indeed and i have no problems with them. (apart from the fucking falsey bridge clicking occasionally now, thats a weird sensation, feels like your teeth have turned at a funny angle, very odd for things that dont normally move).
lazi
You can dissolve it in milk but it's tedious.

For 2 people, enough hash, or even soapbar if there's nowt else, for a good spliff and 2 cups of milk into a saucepan. Flame and crumble the hash as much as you would do for a joint.

With a LOW heat, keep whisking it with a fork, moving the hash about. The aim is to spend at least 10 minutes getting the milk to just below boiling point. As I said, it's very tedious and the pan will need to be held above the cooker ring not on it for most of the time while stirring.

Flavour with instant coffee or honey and drink. Very mellow high, like relaxing in a warm bath, even with soapbar.


btw, I used to use spell checkers but found that my spelling ability was getting worse and it can make me lazy enough to miss double typed words and/or grammatical errors. So I do my own checking. I still manage to make basic errors no matter how many times I check but the way I see it, if I can't be bothered reading wot i rote, why should I be expecting others to bother reading it? If I had physical problems like Arnie, it would be spell checker all the way though.
tom o'rite
QUOTE (Nutes @ Aug 1 2009, 11:47 AM) *
Oh yeah as for the suction thing i was smoking and ripping bongs within four hours of all of my extractions, silly? maybe, but i didn't loose a single clot...


Nice one, that's all good, but a good friend smoked as usual and swiftly got dry socket which totally incapacitated him until he was put on loads of codeine. I suppose how good a healer you are generally and other factors come into play- he generally has a shite diet and doesn't look after himself too well. Having heard him describe the sensation of dry socket I always try to encourage other people to be a bit wary. If you google it there are enough people out there saying it's the most unpleasant thing they've ever experienced!
Nutes
QUOTE (tom o'rite @ Aug 1 2009, 01:38 PM) *
QUOTE (Nutes @ Aug 1 2009, 11:47 AM) *
Oh yeah as for the suction thing i was smoking and ripping bongs within four hours of all of my extractions, silly? maybe, but i didn't loose a single clot...


Nice one, that's all good, but a good friend smoked as usual and swiftly got dry socket which totally incapacitated him until he was put on loads of codeine. I suppose how good a healer you are generally and other factors come into play- he generally has a shite diet and doesn't look after himself too well. Having heard him describe the sensation of dry socket I always try to encourage other people to be a bit wary. If you google it there are enough people out there saying it's the most unpleasant thing they've ever experienced!



Opps! spliff.gif yeah in hind sight i suppose as i've not had one i dont know what the pain is like so don't smoke!! the thing i was trying to say in a long winded way was that the reason they say dont smoke is 'cause the nicotine reduces blood flow so would neat canna have the same affect? i dunno but probably best off ingesting for a jaw break anyhow.

Maybe you could sign up to one of these studies...... I hear they will inject you with pure THC, sounds like a blast, and you might get paid too!! Although you may have to act a bit "crazy" like.
RAZ
ALA Joolz.... Put bud on a spoon (desert) add some Olive oil and heat, sqwish with another spoon to get all the sticky goodness into the oil, then throw bud and add oil to a yoghurt mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Arnold Layne
QUOTE (RAZ @ Aug 2 2009, 10:27 AM) *
ALA Joolz.... Put bud on a spoon (desert) add some Olive oil and heat, sqwish with another spoon to get all the sticky goodness into the oil, then throw bud and add oil to a yoghurt mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

"Throw bud"
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eek.gif
Wha?????????

You mean "chew bud before swallowing oily yoghurt", surely? Please! Or at least "Swish bud matter into yoghurt and eat the lot".

Throwing bud away is like ripping out one's own tongue or teeth (if you've got any, I have a few only left). I mean to say .... just ..... NO! Its against PFNC Regs, for a start!
RAZ
QUOTE (Arnold Layne @ Aug 2 2009, 10:39 AM) *
QUOTE (RAZ @ Aug 2 2009, 10:27 AM) *
ALA Joolz.... Put bud on a spoon (desert) add some Olive oil and heat, sqwish with another spoon to get all the sticky goodness into the oil, then throw bud and add oil to a yoghurt mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

"Throw bud"
shock.gif
eek.gif
Wha?????????

You mean "chew bud before swallowing oily yoghurt", surely? Please! Or at least "Swish bud matter into yoghurt and eat the lot".

Throwing bud away is like ripping out one's own tongue or teeth (if you've got any, I have a few only left). I mean to say .... just ..... NO! Its against PFNC Regs, for a start!


But there will be no "goodness" left on the bud Arnie, not when i do it anyway.....

And eating bud is sick.gif lol.gif
sibannac
Blow backs up the nostrils work a treat and doesn't make you cough, in fact its my prefered way of taking blow backs, neat obviously.






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pete3867
sounds like a job for a hash bang ..or weed bang these days , get a pan put a knob of butter in with a nice bud , then a little rum , heat it up ...the butter dissolves the thc and the alcohol breaks it up further .. sieve it ....knock it back ......and wait for the fireworks .... spliff.gif
Jimthebaker
Seriously mate you can't let that fucking prick get away with that!!? If someone did that to me they'd be getting the same or worse
Either find him yourself or get him done for assault but don't just let it go!
cam mcneil
whilst trying to respect the rules and therefore ill tone my language but get your mate a bat and five minutes with the muppet who did it, should ease his pain for several days!
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