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joeninety
Folks.
Maybe someone else has gone thru' this & can point me in the right direction. For the past 20 or so years I've smoked hash/solids, super pollen from the Dam & I've only had an attack of RA when I've been without. Due to financial circumstances I decided to grow my own & fortunately stumbled across this fine place. Cropped my first grow 3 weeks ago & it just ain't doing the trick. Don't get me wrong, it's deffo high stuff but no real medicinal benefit. Am I missing summat? And if so what?
Cheers,
Joe.
Volcanologist
Hello Joe

What strain did you grow, some strains are better for medical relief than others.

also after cropping three weeks ago you have still got quite abit curing time so that may improve its effects for you.

Volc
ocimonogre
Growing is not impossible but, at the same time, You need experience. I will do my first crop before the tenth of august and the things that you have got to take in to account are a lot.
For example:

- the strain
- When to harvest
- How to cure it
- what was the type of hash/weed that helped me

What i can say is to not give up and give it, at least, two months of curing. This only from what I have read around.

Also, in amsti, you really can find good, if not excellent stuff, grown by experienced people who really know what they are doing. And if you need to do hash then you should try and do hash with the left over leaves from the curing.
A strain that I have tried wich reminds me of hash is top dawg from amnesia.....maybe they have got the seeds.

Btw, enourmous good luck from italy for the RA. Never had it but I have seen people in real pain with it. And if You found that hash works for it, You really are a lucky man.
joeninety
Thanks so far folks. Bit stoned @ mo. Told you that bit worked rofl.gif Thought it might get a bit more technical than this. Am away for 10 days doing something that requires a lot of wrist action, no not wanking for England, but don't want to give too many pointers to my obscure addiction,
Cheers,
Joe.
trebor
i'd have a peek at the hash n oil section here if your used to the solids. if as oci says youve got your trim left have a go with that 1st to see if it hits the spot before throwing some of your crop into hashmaking'

oh yeah what strain?
joeninety
I bought 4 feminised seeds. As they both had a flowering time of 8 weeks 2 blueberry & 2 of something I've forgotten. Sounds a bit amateurish but I started with the labels but they got mixed up & lost. 1 plant hermied so following advice on here I ice hashed it. Got enough for one spliff!! My one claim to fame is I've smoked a whole plant in one go smile.gif After cropping the other 3 I was gonna attempt hashing the trim but I don't know exactly what trim is so I binned the leaves, stalks etc. Is that trim?
When I get back in 10 days time I'm gonna start another grow, this time a little more organised. Phoned my mate up last night & he's bringing some solid to the meet for me,
Thanks folks,
Joe.
Akuta-Same
oi oi, how are you making your hash oil?? i find thsat if you use vodka or butane you only get thc, and you get stoned b ut you dont get that relaxed, just slipped in a hot bath kinda thing, however i find that when i use ethanol, and heat to around 60C ethanol evaperates quickly so srtain it sharpesh, that stuff just seems to smash me around the room, dont know if its a working real fact or just in my head, anyway pure thc is bad for you you need to be gettin cbd and cbn, stop you goin la la

doubt this helped but it kept me busy smile.gif
Arnold Layne
Its probably down to genetics, you just chose the wrong ones! Sorry, don't know how else to put that unsure.gif
Most modern strains are bred for high THC, so we are told. Seems we need to get back to the Landraces and natural strains we all used to smoke decades ago, which have all that CBD and other such stuff in 'em. Well, I don't know about all that ..... but you are lucky - some modern day cannabis works for you so you should be able to find something else to use that will help. I know all this "THC, CBD, Terpenes" thing is very scientific and all that, and everyone takes it as gospel, but I'm more inclined to say just play the strains game, see what fits. Try some landraces by all means (but they can be very hard to grow right), but grow other stuff too, stuff more suited to a personal growroom. Throw a bit of pollen around and grow the seeds out, maybe?
I can't advise you on strains. I suspect the only folks who can are fellow RA sufferers. But even then you face the problem of "What works for one may not work for another". But they should be able to maybe point you to a good starting point, at least.
Curing is a very important aspect of growing, for sure. I find that the potency changes quite a lot after six or more weeks in the jar. Not stronger, but .... hmmm .... deeper, fuller? Is that of analgeisc importance? I can't say. I've never found any analgesia in weed, but thats just me.

QUOTE (Akuta-Same @ Jul 23 2009, 03:40 PM) *
anyway pure thc is bad for you you need to be gettin cbd and cbn, stop you goin la la

First I've ever heard of it. Got any real evidence?
chickenlipsr4
I agree entirely with what Arnie says in the above post. Whilst there maybe a scientific basis for what works for what doesn't I don't think there is enough information in the public domain to make those decisions even if you do have a good understanding of cannabis phytochemistry and pharmacology.

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lazi
You probably chopped them too early, can give you nice high but little to no body stone. Seed plants take longer to finish than clones.

pete3867
I agree with the posts above , it may be a good idea to think what your favourite solid hash was and try to get a strain close to that , i was always a Morroccan fan , but unfortunately i dont have the space for a sat dom strain cry.gif
Stinky
Alright Joe. I've got behcets syndrome and one of the symptoms is RA.

Give White Rhino a go, works a treat for me.

Also, don't chop early and try and have the willpower to give the buds a cure for at least 4 weeks. You won't be dissappointed!

Patience is a virtue.
maryjane
Rhu Arth responds well to the 'whites like white widow', pot of gold for some people, Blueberry for others, and curing your buds.

Can this be a Rhu Arth flare up, and other times you have been in remission?

joeninety
Interesting info Stinky & Maryjane. Was about to order some more seeds to start another grow.
Mj. Not too sure what you mean re the flare up & remission. It's something I've had for over 30 years, Didn't know what it was when I was a kid, but I've enjoyed a toke for a long time. I realised it didn't happen when I had a smoke so I bought an ounce, lasted 4/5 weeks, had a week or two off before the next ounce & stayed free of RA. It was when the week or two off got longer I was susceptible to an attack. Please don't tell me this white stuff grows about 10' tall!!
Thanks,
Joe.
Akuta-Same
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First I've ever heard of it. Got any real evidence?
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would you belive but the normally evil wierd scientists at gw pharmacuticals have an amazing grow room, its indoors and about, well its amazin, anyway they have done loads of research into all cannabinoids as there thc based spray 'Sativex' dosent always hit the spot the way a spliff does. CBD definately effects the brain, i do belive i get paranoid on sativas with high thc and low cbd and i dont with more indica pants with higher cbd, greenhouse seeds have a good breakdown of cannabinoid content such as thc, cbd and cbn percentage, how reliable these are i dont know, i mean homer simpson was the plough king, and i dont agree wiith all of what the 'Cannabis Kings' erm ideas. sorry ive gone well of tangent, anyway there is a bbc horizon or dispatches film on the whole subject it was made this year (09) and is fairly unbiased, i belive its called 'Cannabis: the evil weed' and could certainly be downloaded if not available trew i player cheers for reading my crap
weedmonsta
QUOTE (joeninety @ Jul 29 2009, 09:21 PM) *
Interesting info Stinky & Maryjane. Was about to order some more seeds to start another grow.
Mj. Not too sure what you mean re the flare up & remission. It's something I've had for over 30 years, Didn't know what it was when I was a kid, but I've enjoyed a toke for a long time. I realised it didn't happen when I had a smoke so I bought an ounce, lasted 4/5 weeks, had a week or two off before the next ounce & stayed free of RA. It was when the week or two off got longer I was susceptible to an attack. Please don't tell me this white stuff grows about 10' tall!!
Thanks,
Joe.

you dont have to worry about plants getting big m8.... there are loads of threads on this site about training plants to keep em small...... my white widows are only about 18 inches tall cos i flowered them at 12 in smallish(10") pots- about 5 litres...

best of luck with your medicine hunt... theres loads of kind peeps on here that would be willing to help you learn everything you need to know smile.gif

WM
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