scorch
Jun 17 2009, 07:47 PM
So my ww is now hanging in the grow area, gradually drying. I've sneaked some bits and pieces out early and tried smoking them. My other half seems to get well and truly ratted on it, but I'm not getting much of a hit at all. Its only been in there a few days mind.
Ive tried microwaving it and slow cooking it to dry it out, and sat a small bud on the heat vent to the tv for the day, but I get MUCH more of a stone off the bit of white rhino I have left i my tin than I do off my ww! I made a big pat of cannabutter with the trim but I havent had the nerve to try that yet.
Is it just a question of waiting for the ww to cure properly? Maybe I need to give the weed a break for a bit? Im not a big smoker, but have a joint pretty much every evening. It definitely has an effect, but its more of an edgy anxious high than the soporific stone Im used to.
samsson
Jun 17 2009, 07:54 PM
id give it a few days, takes about 5 days for the chyloroform to leach , I find if you smoke it wet or damp , you dont get much off it at all , so leave it a week , then try it
madrobar
Jun 17 2009, 07:55 PM
Leave it a month..........Then try it....M......
scorch
Jun 17 2009, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (samsson @ Jun 17 2009, 08:54 PM)

id give it a few days, takes about 5 days for the chyloroform to leach , I find if you smoke it wet or damp , you dont get much off it at all , so leave it a week , then try it
thanks samsson, I feel a bit better now you've said that. Ive been worried from day one that Ive been ripped off by the seed company and I have actually been growing an ornamental nettle or something....
samsson
Jun 17 2009, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (scorch @ Jun 17 2009, 08:57 PM)

QUOTE (samsson @ Jun 17 2009, 08:54 PM)

id give it a few days, takes about 5 days for the chyloroform to leach , I find if you smoke it wet or damp , you dont get much off it at all , so leave it a week , then try it
thanks samsson, I feel a bit better now you've said that. Ive been worried from day one that Ive been ripped off by the seed company and I have actually been growing an ornamental nettle or something....
nettle,s
scorch
Jun 17 2009, 08:11 PM
Does this mean I should have dried the trim before making it into butter?
billious
Jun 17 2009, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (scorch @ Jun 17 2009, 09:11 PM)

Does this mean I should have dried the trim before making it into butter?
You can make hash or butter with fresh trim as long as you follow the methods..... when you fast dry bud you can loose THC.... if you really want to get a smoke try a quick dry method that takes 2-3 days this way you won't overheat the goodies
d|t
Jun 17 2009, 09:57 PM
It will reach its optiminal high when the moisture level of the bud depletes around 20%
I think underdried weed inhibits the thc's properties.
Then again I could be wrong, maybe its the thc glands that have moisture in them, or something breaks down to make it better.
The rule is though, you have to dry no matter what, no good nuking it in the microwave or trying to dry them in the oven, your just wasting your time and effort by doing that.
Harvest your buds, dry for at least 10-14 days until stem snaps cleanly, jar them up.
growxpert
Jun 18 2009, 02:52 AM
Potency cannot improve with curing.
Once the plant material is off the plant. it can only go down in potency.
potency can be kept pretty stable in dark well ventilated area that doesnt have extremes of temperatures.
But never ever can the potency go up once the plant material is no longer on the plant. its the plant producing it and nothing else in the world will.
regarding microwaving. ive done that. it was very smooth and potent. it was some of my lowryder last year.
Put it on low or medium low power, heat in sections of 30 seconds. open the door and turn over, possible moving the buds around on the plate as moisture goes onto the plate. after about 4 mins of heating you will have a perfectly dry bud.
However this is from nipping a bud directly off a plant.
so if yours have been off already, it should take less than 4 minutes. i hope you find the solution for your predicament.
ordinaryguy
Jun 18 2009, 02:58 AM
QUOTE (growxpert @ Jun 18 2009, 03:52 AM)

Potency cannot improve with curing.
Once the plant material is off the plant. it can only go down in potency.
potency can be kept pretty stable in dark well ventilated area that doesnt have extremes of temperatures.
But never ever can the potency go up once the plant material is no longer on the plant. its the plant producing it and nothing else in the world will.
dont believe this from personnel experience i'm afraid. My last crop's potency improved a great deal with a good cure, along with taste and smell. After a couple of months in the jars it was lovely smoke.
That was killawatt, primarily hindukush.
powerband
Jun 18 2009, 03:49 AM
QUOTE (ordinaryguy @ Jun 18 2009, 03:58 AM)

QUOTE (growxpert @ Jun 18 2009, 03:52 AM)

Potency cannot improve with curing.
Once the plant material is off the plant. it can only go down in potency.
potency can be kept pretty stable in dark well ventilated area that doesnt have extremes of temperatures.
But never ever can the potency go up once the plant material is no longer on the plant. its the plant producing it and nothing else in the world will.
dont believe this from personnel experience i'm afraid. My last crop's potency improved a great deal with a good cure, along with taste and smell. After a couple of months in the jars it was lovely smoke.
That was killawatt, primarily hindukush.
Have to agree here...... cured weed certainly does improve with age. I have always cured my weed for at least one month in jars....sometimes it has sat in curing jars for six months!
Now that WAS a smoke
The curing process also makes the smoke a smooth velvet smoke, the sort that dont rip your throat out

(you know, like street dealer weed does)
Get it cured and dont rush it, cookers blah blah, wont help you, its a natural drying process you're looking for.
Hang em, snap em, cure em....
My personnel experience tells me the same
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
Jun 18 2009, 04:38 AM
"does potency improve with curing?"
Yes.
So does the aroma and flavor.
ludacris
Jun 18 2009, 07:32 AM
Right guys. I know that the majority of growers use glass jars to store and cure their buds, but how about a glass baking tray, with a glass lid??
I think the process is speeded up, by using a horizontal container, rather than a vertical jar....
Can all the boffins let me know what they think please....
scraglor
Jun 18 2009, 08:06 AM
i'm sorry, but like growxpert said, it's impossible for potency to go UP once the bud has lost the plant. it can go up weight for weight, if your bud still has moisture in it when you start to cure it, because obviously moisture has no thc in it, so as the bud loses moisture, the weight goes down but the thc stays the same. but potency as in the number of crystals and the thc contained within each one can ONLY go down once the bud has been removed from the plant. the high will change though, because thc breaks down to cbn slowly once the plant has died, so you may lose the edginess of your fresh bud, but the edginess is caused by a high ratio of thc to cbd, so the loss of edginess is actually a loss of potency, although quality of high is about ratios of cbd, thc and all the other chems, not purely potency of thc. as for potency going up though, impossible
Hashishin
Jun 18 2009, 08:25 AM
I don't think people are claiming that the level of THC increases, what they are saying is that the effect of the high changes with correct storing and curing, resulting in a stronger high or stone after the cure. In terms of THC production I agree that this is impossible once the plant is no longer alive. It terms of curing though I would say that a 6 month properly cured bud would be more potent than one cured for only 1 month, even if the buds were harvested from the same plant with the same levels of THC.
So yes curing does improve the strength of cannabis bud but only to the user and not in actual levels of THC increase.
dirtdog
Jun 18 2009, 08:48 AM
maybe you just appreciate the high of the cured stuff more because of the the time its taken you to cure it and the improved flavour etc

,i find my psyche has alot to do with how high i feel and the antisipation of it.cured bud is the best imo but ive been badly ripped before on freshly dried bud,wet/fast dried bud doesnt do the job for me either,i usually get the bubble on the go straight after trimming if i want some early smokes because it dries faster than bud

ps,all good things....!
Nausicca
Jun 18 2009, 08:56 AM
I've only ever noticed the smoke getting smoother and less tickly in the throat over time - I've cured in glass jars and done all the things you're supposed to and I can't really say after 6 months that the potency or smell has increased. I'd say the potency has stayed the same, but the strength of the smell has gone down (although the 'cut grass' chlorophyll smell has gone altogether).
Arnold Layne
Jun 18 2009, 08:59 AM
Got to agree with those that find their weed improves with a cure.
Don't know about THC.
For me what counts is the aroma, the taste and then the impact on my mind and body. And all three improve with the cure. From three months onwards things are just plain better than before the cure. And one year old cured hashish is thoroughly awesome
scorch
Jun 18 2009, 10:38 AM
Well Id like to thank you all for contributing to this....
The buds hanging in the cupboard have been there for 4 days now, so after posting this question I had another go at nuking one in the micro.
I smoked one reasonably packed joint with the dry result, and within ten minutes collapsed in a small heap on the sofa.
I think that when its too wet the clumps of weed in the joint don't burn through, they just char around the outside. In contrast, the tobacco burns down fairly quickly, and a lot of the weed ends up dropping off unburned. That's the best theory Ive come up with anyhow.....
Its certainly proved there's plenty of thc/cannaboids in there, seems its just a question of ensuring the stuff is dry enough to get at the goodies.
Weedio
Jun 18 2009, 10:45 AM
I found that potency in general increases, taste aroma etc. primarily as has been said.
I did, however, notice that on my indica domininant strawberry cough the potency started to drop after 4 weeks in the jars.
No idea why, was reported by a few growers that grew out the clone.
Anyone know why this happened? Maybe it's chemical makeup of THC just fell apart?
I'm not sure if potency increases myself but i'd say it certainly changes. Can't beat cured weed imo, it does smoke much smoother but i have found some strains that the smell is tamed. Although other strains can totally change smell, i'd imagine it's something to do with terpenes breaking down in the buds, which maybe owuld affect the hiogh also
Either way it's definitely worth doing
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