Numbbud
Jul 29 2009, 08:15 AM
QUOTE (Pickels @ Jul 29 2009, 12:13 AM)

Thanks Numbbud,
Thats kind of you to say, its been a big learning experience for me too and I'm sure I would not
have gotten this far with out the help from all the good people here.
The Knowledge base has been really informative for me with some great tips there
and reading other diary's has given me some pointers I would never have thought up myself.
I like to say again thanks for the input/comments I've received while doing this diary too.
Oh Numbbud I used That green plastic strip to mark out my grow patch boarder, did it help sort out your water problem?
It did help but then I removed it cause a friend of mine said that if the plant is "naked" it wont drag attention but as soon as it looks like someone is caring for some plant, someone might be curious and find out. So instead I dug a hole around 1 meter away from my two ladies and drained the water around em. I have visited them after heavy rain and it seems to work. We have ALOT of rain where I live. Still Im a bit afraid that the rain might be too heavy for my ladies. They look a bit "hangy". Maybe too much rain. See some budsites on em but they doesnt look so good anymore.
Pickels
Jul 29 2009, 09:11 PM
I think most of the plots I've seen have a sort of managed look to them, most of the plants are going
to be in a cage, to protect from rabbits, etc. My plot looks defo managed, sort of mini allotment
ground turned over, cages around the plants and now stakes.
If theres nothing you can do for your plant this year you might want to plan for drainage next year.
May be spend some time looking for a good plot or a place where you can prepare the ground yourself.
If you get a lot of rain over the year, are there any strains which would be better suited for you to grow?
I hope that ur ladies pick up and ya get something back for your troubles
Pickels
Aug 2 2009, 01:36 PM
Oh ya never good guess the highs and lows of growing, eh..
I popped over to my plot today to put some more sacking around the top of the cutting tent, I felt that the cuttings
are being slow to root and possibly its because they are still getting to much light.
Every time I visit I check for roots and now Ive got 2 which have put out small roots
One has a root of 5mm & the other has 3 root shoots also about 5mm in length..
Man I'm loving this growing lark
I'll post pics when I do my main update
cumulus64
Aug 3 2009, 08:29 PM
This is an interesting read, you're doin bloody well by the looks of it fella!
I think the drainage hole/sump is a good idea if ur worried about the rain. My first proper outdoor grow happens to have drainage ditches very close, it seems to take all the excess water from rain and leaves the plants in dry ground.
good luck with the rest of it....
p
Pickels
Aug 6 2009, 08:21 AM
Week 12 from seed
Week 6 outside
Week 2 topped (m)
week 2 cuttings
Late again with up date but pics and info as of Tuesday 4th.
Smallest plant looking good, bushing out nicely and standing about 5 ft.
Medium plant looking good also about 5ft, the two shots from where I toped plant are very
similar in height and thickness of stem and have the same growth rate as the small plant.
Large plant is turning in to a monster standing at just under 6ft, I keep thinking I should top it
but curious to see what final height is going to be i i leaver it to do its thing.
Weathers been mostly sunny had some light rain & one storm, still floating around high 20's and low 30's. (suntans looking sweet)
Pickels
Aug 6 2009, 08:25 AM
Week 12 from seed
Week 6 outside
Week 2 topped (m)
week 2 cuttings
Tried to take a clear shot of the "V" in the medium plant & a couple of nice group shots.
Normally i take pics with out the sun on plants but thought to show it nice and sunny
Pickels
Aug 6 2009, 08:34 AM
Week 12 from seed
Week 6 outside
Week 2 topped (m)
Week 2 cuttings (s & m)
Week 1 cutting (l)
Just a few pics of my cuttings tent, I've enclose the top in sacks to cut out any direct sunlight
as I've still only two which have put out root shoots.
The two with shoots will be transfered to soil this week, I'll take photos then.
The new cutting from largest plant I have placed in purple cups to again cut out light more light hitting the roots.
If I have no signs of root shoots from the older cuttings by the next up date, I'm probably going to re-cut tip's at more of an angle.
wakenbaker
Aug 6 2009, 09:16 PM
I gotta get me a greenhouse like that, usefull for raising seeds in outdoors and then you can use it to take cuttings aswell brilliant! I think we both need to start our grows ealier in the season next year though! Looking good
wakeB
treeofsatta
Aug 6 2009, 10:19 PM
QUOTE (wakenbaker @ Aug 6 2009, 10:16 PM)

I gotta get me a greenhouse like that, usefull for raising seeds in outdoors and then you can use it to take cuttings aswell brilliant! I think we both need to start our grows ealier in the season next year though! Looking good
wakeB
I hear that. I think we've done fairly well considering starting seeds outdoors etc etc though...
Pickels
Aug 7 2009, 05:20 PM
QUOTE (treeofsatta @ Aug 6 2009, 10:19 PM)

QUOTE (wakenbaker @ Aug 6 2009, 10:16 PM)

I gotta get me a greenhouse like that, usefull for raising seeds in outdoors and then you can use it to take cuttings aswell brilliant! I think we both need to start our grows ealier in the season next year though! Looking good
wakeB
I hear that. I think we've done fairly well considering starting seeds outdoors etc etc though...
Thanks guy always nice to see your posts here.
The tents been a god send, great for storing my stuff as well as for the cuttings (and clones (next year))
I agree about getting an earlier start, now I've done a year I have a better idea what to expect and plan for weather wise.
I will be taking cuttings from mum plants which I plan to keep in a veg cab and then root them in the tent before moving them
down a level (in the tent) for a week or two before they are planted into the soil.
My plan is for 7 plants next year as I have 3 new strains of seeds (2 clones from each plant) + the white widows (1 clone) I'm growing this year.
This means I'm gong to have to do some adaptations to my cab, I'll do this when folks go back to UK in a wee or two.
Mr_cocofibrelover
Aug 7 2009, 05:51 PM
been lurking on this one for a while now.. looks like you have a nice spot there mate..
p.s. was that mushroom a magic one?
Pickels
Aug 7 2009, 08:09 PM
Hi Cocofibrelover
IDK about that shroom, I was hoping someone in the know might be able to identify it.
It was a few weeks ago now and I've not seen any since, though I saw a few of them at the time.
I believe that magic shrooms (liberty caps) grow August to mid January,
Sept - Nov being the most common time to see them and tend to be pointy, the ones I saw was rounded.
Pickels
Aug 8 2009, 08:26 AM
Good news, a third cutting has now put out root shoots, all of them are from the (s) plant.
I really wanted a cutting from each of my plants to root, just in case ones a better smoke.
This is the minimum amount that I want for my veg cab to take cuttings from for next years out door crop.
If any more of the cuttings take root its a bonus though I've not decided yet what to do with them,as just seeing if i could get them to root was the goal.
treeofsatta
Aug 9 2009, 12:50 PM
Hey mate
Yea Liberty Caps August to January sounds about right but Sept-Oct being ideal. Found some the other day, didn't do much only had enough for 3g each when you are really looking at 10g per dose to be honest. Think I'm gonna have to get me a tent like that next year. You've inspired me!
Gonna build a little box bit like yours, veg a few mums, take cuttings. Put them into a greenhouse which will be at one of my sites then move 'em out to other places. Did you put your clones into Rockwool cubes?
Cheers
~Satta
Pickels
Aug 9 2009, 01:43 PM
Hey Satta,
It would be great to find some shrooms out here a little tripyness is something I'm missing right now, also funny how they pop up about same time as smoke matures cause the two go togeather so well!!!
I'm well happy with my tent defo a good buy and as for the cuttings I will be posting some pics soon of the roots and them in their new pots.
I've not used Rockwool cubes as I cant seem to find anything like that for sale round here, all I've done is to take the cuttings from the main plants and place them in water.
If you going to build a veg cab like mine I'd advise you to buy a BIG INLINE extract fan because temp has been an issue, I found plants were ok if i kept temp under 30oC +/- 3oC , still pretty hot but they stayed healthy. Also you need smaller fans on the plants for air flow and to stiffen stems up.
My inline fan.
treeofsatta
Aug 9 2009, 01:54 PM
Yea man shrooms are the bees knees.
So how much did that fan set you back? Is it the fan that sucks air IN not out. Hopefully I could rig up a few PC fans for stiffening up stems. I'm thinking of flowering in there aswell, maybe with a SOG or SCROG or something....
Peace
~Satta
Pickels
Aug 9 2009, 02:38 PM
The fan can suck or blow but I'm sucking the air out of the cab, I'm also using PC fans on inside.
If you going to flower then you will ideally need more height then I've got, its possible with my
set up but why make life hard, eh.. (I never intended to flower this cab)
Also have a look and see what other people have done for lighting, because I believe people
change the type of lighting/lamps depending if their vegging or blooming their plants.
internewt
Aug 9 2009, 04:31 PM
QUOTE (Pickels @ Jun 29 2009, 06:03 PM)


Any one recognize the shroom?
Liberty caps are the magic mushies that grow in the UK. The Latin name is Psilocybe semilanceata, and here's the wikipedia article and a link to Erowid's photos (Erowid's an excellent resource for drug information).
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w...be_semilanceatahttp://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mus...shtml#psil-semiI've never tried to ID mushrooms, but I don't think that one is a liberty cap - it doesn't look like it has the point on the top, and I think the colour might be a bit too light. Looking at WP, it sounds like the end of June is too early to see UK magic mushrooms as well.
treeofsatta
Aug 9 2009, 04:40 PM
Definately don't eat that one. It is not Liberty Cap. Looks like a mushroom that looks like it could be a young Shaggy Ink Cap mushroom.
Not sure though as photo is small and cannot zoom in!
internewt
Aug 9 2009, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (treeofsatta @ Aug 9 2009, 05:40 PM)

Not sure though as photo is small and cannot zoom in!
Yeah, I suck at quoting posts with pictures.... I manually copied the thumbnail image location from Pickels' post and pasted it into the quoted text.
Have a look at posts 66 and 67 in the thread for the originals,
http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?show...t&p=1818730
Pickels
Aug 9 2009, 07:31 PM
hello internewt, that shrooms defo not lib cap but I wonder now what it is.
Stixman
Aug 9 2009, 09:02 PM
hi pickels
looks like all your hard work will pay off for you,the plants are coming on well
these are the only shroom's I've ever seen in the UK,I'm sure these are liberty caps,cream in appearance with a nipple on the top.i think the one you found is usually referred to as the 'death cap'
Click to view attachmentgood look with the rest of the grow dude
Pickels
Aug 9 2009, 10:03 PM
Hi Stixman "death cap" ........ you say .........
treeofsatta
Aug 10 2009, 10:11 AM
Yea the ones in those pics are definately liberty caps.
I'm pretty sure that one you found is not a Death Cap as they tend to have a more brown colour and the young ones are more of a ball on a stick. Here's a death cap for comparison.

I reckon it's a baby Shaggy Ink Cap
magoo
Aug 10 2009, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (treeofsatta @ Aug 10 2009, 11:11 AM)

Yea the ones in those pics are definately liberty caps.
I'm pretty sure that one you found is not a Death Cap as they tend to have a more brown colour and the young ones are more of a ball on a stick. Here's a death cap for comparison.

I reckon it's a baby Shaggy Ink Cap

Thats some freaky lookin' fungi
2hi2try
Aug 10 2009, 08:42 PM
i'll second the lib caps m8 munch away
Pickels
Aug 12 2009, 08:35 PM
Hello magoo & 2hi2try..
ok ok well im going to be keepiing my eyes glued to the ground for a few weeks been ages since i tripped
2bh been ages since i was any thing !
but great pics of lib caps for me to compare with.
Pickels
Aug 12 2009, 09:22 PM
Week 13 from seed
Week 7 outside
Week 3 topped (m)
Week 3 cuttings (s & m)
Week 2 cutting (l)
Plants are looking great and I have a feeling they are starting to flower/bloom,
they have a sort of spiky look to them at the nodes. I tryed to take a photo but my
camaras just wont do any sort of close up.
Just for fun i have measured each plant
Small plant 5ft 4", Medium plant (topped)5ft 2" and largest plant stands at 5ft 8"
Pickels
Aug 12 2009, 09:26 PM
Week 13 from seed
Week 7 outside
Week 3 topped (m)
Week 3 cuttings (s & m)
Week 2 cutting (l)
Group shot, a nice bushy plant and plant looking sort of spiky
(you cant really see spickyness at brances but pic is for me as memery aid)
Pickels
Aug 12 2009, 09:36 PM
Week 13 from seed
Week 7 outside
Week 3 topped (m)
Week 3 cuttings (s & m)
Week 2 cutting (l)
Photos of the roots of the cuttings from the small and medium plants,
IDK why but the cutting from the largest plant died.
Pickels
Aug 12 2009, 09:43 PM
Week 13 from seed
Week 7 outside
Week 3 topped (m)
Week 3 cuttings (s & m)
Week 0 cutting (l)
Out of the 11 cuttings from s & m plants I've 4 potted, 2 with roots too small to pot up and 1 healthy but not showing root.
I think the remaining are not going to make it and are looking unhealthy with brown leaves and a couple with fluffy looking
fungus on stem under water line.
Today I took new cutting from the largest plant, but may be too late as i believe its hard to get plants in flower to root.
pic 1 my best cutting with good root, pic2 scruffy looking plants but roots good.
pic 3 back row plants 3 left rooting, rest prob gona die, mid row plants 4 from left new cuttings of large plant rest not looking good, front potted cuttings which i will move in doors soon.
Pickels
Aug 12 2009, 09:50 PM
I also prepared the cab and pots ready for the cuttings.
I can't do much more now untill folks go away and I can modify the cab to hold 4 plants.
Pickels
Aug 18 2009, 08:56 PM
Week 14 from seed
Week 8 outside
Week 4 topped (m)
Week 4 cuttings (s & m)
Week 1 cutting (l)
Week 0 cuttings in cab
Main plants are doing nicely, defo seeing them starting to produce flowers..
Pickels
Aug 18 2009, 08:58 PM
Week 14 from seed
Week 8 outside
Week 4 topped (m)
Week 4 cuttings (s & m)
Week 1 cutting (l)
Week 0 cuttings in cab
Group shot and another cutting with roots
Pickels
Aug 18 2009, 09:02 PM
Week 14 from seed
Week 8 outside
Week 4 topped (m)
Week 4 cuttings (s & m)
Week 1 cutting (l)
Week 0 cuttings in cab
Pic1 Cuttings from largest plant & old cuttings from S&M plants (dying)
Pic2 & 3 Cuttings from small and medium plants in soil & new cuttings from largest plant in water.
Medicineman
Aug 18 2009, 09:27 PM
QUOTE (Pickels @ Aug 18 2009, 10:02 PM)

Week 14 from seed
Week 8 outside
Week 4 topped (m)
Week 4 cuttings (s & m)
Week 1 cutting (l)
Week 0 cuttings in cab
Pic1 Cuttings from largest plant & old cuttings from S&M plants (dying)
Pic2 & 3 Cuttings from small and medium plants in soil & new cuttings from largest plant in water.
All looking good!
Pickels
Aug 19 2009, 03:10 PM
Hey Medicineman..... yes well they were looking great until I cooked em
I used too smaller pots when I potted em in to soil with no drain holes either

So first they dried out then I over reacted and drowned them

Lost one plant - roots roted away
Two plants might pull through (out of cab re-potted and now on a high self)
Three plants looking ok, but only time will tell...

...(in cab re-potted)
I've a cutting in the cab next to the air intake, two cutting on high shelf & one cutting left in cuttings tent. (cuttings from L plant)
Temperature is a problem, its 37oC outside 30oC in my room, I've reduced light level in cab and brought temp down to 32oC still hot but manageable. I've also change timer so lights off now from 4pm to 10pm (hottest part of the day).
Pickels
Aug 22 2009, 03:50 PM
Week 1 for mums (survivors)
Week 1 for large cuttings
Week 0 for mixed cuttings
I'm down to 4 of the potted cuttings, 3 are potted and in the light cab, one is still on the windowsill.
The 3 in the cab seem to be holding out ok, the one on the window has only 1 good leaf.. idk yet if it will make it.
The 3 cutting from the largest plant, 1 in light cab & 2 on the windowsill - no root shoots.
The 5 new cuttings I want to see if I can get to root as my plants are really in to bloom and I believe its hardest time to get cuttings to root.
Pickels
Aug 22 2009, 03:54 PM
Week 1 for mums (survivors)
Week 1 for large cuttings
Week 0 for mixed cuttings

Not the best start for my mums but I hope I can recover them from this mishap.
pic 1 > almost dead plant
pic 2 > cutting from L plant
Medicineman
Aug 22 2009, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (Pickels @ Aug 22 2009, 04:54 PM)

Week 1 for mums (survivors)
Week 1 for large cuttings
Week 0 for mixed cuttings

Not the best start for my mums but I hope I can recover them from this mishap.
pic 1 > almost dead plant
pic 2 > cutting from L plant
OOPS!...Dohhh!

....Oh well...Nevermind.....A lesson learned I suppose.
Good Luck Vibes coming your way!!!
Peace
MM
Pickels
Aug 22 2009, 08:19 PM

hey MM yeah a painfull one, killed half of my plants

still 2BH I only need one White Widow mum as I have 3 new strains of mum to add to the cab for next years grow

I only have room for 4 mums in there at most. (after a quick Mod in a week or so time)

Happy Days
Pickels
Aug 24 2009, 09:21 AM
Week 15 from seed
Week 9 outside
Well what a difference a week can make, a little set back with the cuttings & potted plants but I seem to be over the worst of that.
I seem to have four of the potted plants holding out nicely and the cuttings are still looking healthy.
So to the main game.
The largest is well over 6ft now & all three are now well in to the bloom.
Pickels
Aug 24 2009, 09:25 AM
Week 15 from seed
Week 9 outside
Some buds developing
Pickels
Aug 24 2009, 09:27 AM
Week 15 from seed
Week 9 outside
Some more buds developing
leeroy lee
Aug 24 2009, 09:27 AM
they look really good mate! nice and healthy looking..
Pickels
Aug 24 2009, 11:30 AM
Hi Leeroy Lee & thanks for kind words

I'm wondering when should expect to harvest my ladies
I'm sort of thinking of a 6 week bloom, assuming that they already had 2 weeks, may be
I'll be looking to chop then down 1st / 2nd week of October ?
Is there a a way to tell when they have reached their full potency?
goldmember
Aug 24 2009, 12:36 PM
1st or 2nd week of october sounds dead on

plants are looking fine m8.............I use a magnafine glass to see when the trichones turn amber...........40% amber
Pickels
Aug 25 2009, 11:12 AM
A great guide for calculating harvest time.
Click - Click
Pickels
Aug 26 2009, 05:39 PM
The two cutting left in the cutting tent I bin'd em both today, one grow strange fungus and the other was dieing badly.
BUT ...
Found a little friend in my cuttings tent today
Medicineman
Aug 26 2009, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (Pickels @ Aug 26 2009, 06:39 PM)

The two cutting left in the cutting tent I bin'd em both today, one grow strange fungus and the other was dieing badly.
BUT ...
Found a little friend in my cuttings tent today

Wow .. he looks wicked.....Just tried to look up what he is .possibily a young
http://www.herpconstrust.org.uk/animals/sand_lizard.htm ?? .....Ill have a proper look later.....Amazing colours

Looks a bit like a Newt on Acid..

.
Peace
MM
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