adarkplace
May 29 2009, 11:01 AM
Hi, I have a secure non overlooked rear garden.
I was thinking of growing 2/3 plants in there. How smelly will it be and how tall will they grow?
The neighb's won't be able to see the plants unless they are huge, but smell will be an issue. Is it possible to grow outside in pots keeping them as low as possible(I have restricted headroom indoors), and then bringing them in when they get smelly? Is it just the flowering stage that is smelly?, and how low do you reckon I could grow them outdoors?
Thanks
windy miller
May 29 2009, 11:16 AM
nah youll be ok when theyre flowering they smell but only when you get close to them say a foot away , and to keep them low just pinch the top of the main stem and theyll grow outwards not upwards and youll get a nice bushy plant
adarkplace
May 29 2009, 11:30 AM
QUOTE (windy miller @ May 29 2009, 12:16 PM)

nah youll be ok when theyre flowering they smell but only when you get close to them say a foot away , and to keep them low just pinch the top of the main stem and theyll grow outwards not upwards and youll get a nice bushy plant
Thanks windy, just the answer I was hoping for.
Can anyone recommend the best plant for outdoor growing. I'm looking for something easy, small and quick to grow and not too smelly. I'm not fussed about the high, it's gonna be better than nothing or being poisoned with street shit, and i'm sick of going to the dam just to get high!!
windy miller
May 29 2009, 11:36 AM
you could try lowryders theyre small quick and easy to grow , ive never grown outdoors in the UK ( im in spain ) but im sure all the knowledgeable folks on here will point you in the right direction !
windy
adarkplace
May 29 2009, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (windy miller @ May 29 2009, 12:36 PM)

you could try lowryders theyre small quick and easy to grow , ive never grown outdoors in the UK ( im in spain ) but im sure all the knowledgeable folks on here will point you in the right direction !
windy
Thanks again windy.
Will look in to Lowryders. The smell issue is the biggest concern what with the neighbours fence being about 10ft away!
windy miller
May 29 2009, 11:43 AM
i wouldnt worry that much about smell being outdoors n that , you could always try planting something else smelly near by , or order a shedload of horseshit !!!
Mr Frisian
May 29 2009, 11:47 AM
Low riders are poor mate , Dont do wot there supposed too get an early strain ( guerrilla gusto easy sativa or anything with early in the title .. The greatest smell is when there drying , usually bout 15 foot away
Good luck mate
Mr F
adarkplace
May 29 2009, 11:51 AM
QUOTE (mr frizzle @ May 29 2009, 12:47 PM)

Low riders are poor mate , Dont do wot there supposed too get an early strain ( guerrilla gusto easy sativa or anything with early in the title .. The greatest smell is when there drying , usually bout 15 foot away
Good luck mate
Mr F
Thanks for the info frizzle, lowryders don't seem to be too popular on this forum. I guess I will have to find somewhere else to dry 'em.
The main thing is not getting caught out with smell while they are growing
Stonehenge
May 29 2009, 12:07 PM
Hiya adarkplace...
Check out this garden/d.i.y. greenhouse grow... He was really worried about smell too....
Think the plants ended up 2foot tall! Ten ounces of free weed.....
Smokey's Greenhouse Grow
Ombudsman
May 29 2009, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (adarkplace @ May 29 2009, 12:01 PM)

Hi, I have a secure non overlooked rear garden.
I was thinking of growing 2/3 plants in there. How smelly will it be and how tall will they grow?
The neighb's won't be able to see the plants unless they are huge, but smell will be an issue. Is it possible to grow outside in pots keeping them as low as possible(I have restricted headroom indoors), and then bringing them in when they get smelly? Is it just the flowering stage that is smelly?, and how low do you reckon I could grow them outdoors?
Thanks

smell and height depends on strain, just choose a strain that flowers in september (usually indica as they tend to flower earlier)
Durban Poison is Sativa and can grow outdoors here. Biddy Early sounds very capable outdoors. I am growing 4 plant right now (only small so far) and they smell as much as any other herb - you can only smell them when you put your nose up to em'. Are you planning to move the plants indoor or something? I don't know how smelly mine will get but it could become an issue for me aswell.
good luck!
adarkplace
May 29 2009, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (Ombudsman @ May 29 2009, 01:18 PM)

QUOTE (adarkplace @ May 29 2009, 12:01 PM)

Hi, I have a secure non overlooked rear garden.
I was thinking of growing 2/3 plants in there. How smelly will it be and how tall will they grow?
The neighb's won't be able to see the plants unless they are huge, but smell will be an issue. Is it possible to grow outside in pots keeping them as low as possible(I have restricted headroom indoors), and then bringing them in when they get smelly? Is it just the flowering stage that is smelly?, and how low do you reckon I could grow them outdoors?
Thanks

smell and height depends on strain, just choose a strain that flowers in september (usually indica as they tend to flower earlier)
Durban Poison is Sativa and can grow outdoors here. Biddy Early sounds very capable outdoors. I am growing 4 plant right now (only small so far) and they smell as much as any other herb - you can only smell them when you put your nose up to em'. Are you planning to move the plants indoor or something? I don't know how smelly mine will get but it could become an issue for me aswell.
good luck!
HI mate. Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I am hoping to avoid bringing them indoors if possible. I can't see the point of paying for all the equipment and set up etc if I can just stick em in the garden. This will depend entirely on the smell, if it gets pongy I will have to move them indoors, (or try and find a guerilla grow elsewhere) so I guess it will be a real quick shopping trip and a day setting up. this is why I need to keep em low, cos if I have to move indoors I have restricted height.
I'm wondering if I plant a shit load of mint if it will help mask the smell?
Any other ideas on smelly herbs to mask the smell?
Cheers
adarkplace
May 29 2009, 12:42 PM
I was thinking about 2 or 3 plants. What sort of yield, on average, could I expect planting at this time of year?
Bad Penny.
May 29 2009, 01:25 PM
No smell unless your right up to them and give them a good shake,the smell dissipates on the eddying currents of air,cant give a guesstimate depends how your growing,what your growing etc,best wait till september-october and get a nice surprise instead
Ombudsman
May 30 2009, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (adarkplace @ May 29 2009, 01:42 PM)

I was thinking about 2 or 3 plants. What sort of yield, on average, could I expect planting at this time of year?
Ok well firstly, what you need to do is look for a strain, some strains smell more than others, so just do some research and get a september flowering, low smelling strain. Indica's tend to be more short and bushy which may help if you are restricted for height space like me. You just need to get some seeds popping because the season has begun so your plants could be getting bigger every day!
Yield also depends on the strain, if you take care of the plants 2-3 plants should be a nice personable amount.
alright then, good luck!
BioBuzz
May 30 2009, 10:12 AM
You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......Its fairly late to be cracking beans now,hurry on
adarkplace
May 30 2009, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (BioBuzz @ May 30 2009, 11:12 AM)

You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......Its fairly late to be cracking beans now,hurry on

I was gonna wait and get the beans in the dam week after next, which means I won't get to crack them until the 11 june.
Is that too late for a guerilla grow?
Ombudsman
May 30 2009, 11:05 AM
QUOTE (adarkplace @ May 30 2009, 11:32 AM)

QUOTE (BioBuzz @ May 30 2009, 11:12 AM)

You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......Its fairly late to be cracking beans now,hurry on

I was gonna wait and get the beans in the dam week after next, which means I won't get to crack them until the 11 june.
Is that too late for a guerilla grow?
nope u just wont get big plants
Bad Penny.
May 30 2009, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (BioBuzz @ May 30 2009, 11:12 AM)

You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......Its fairly late to be cracking beans now,hurry on

Correct

You can be standing in a field with dozens of plants,red hot summers day,unless you get right up and stick your nose in them theres no smell,forget the people who tell you your plants can be whiffed from 5-100 yards away,they havent got a clue what they are chatting about
stealth303
May 30 2009, 11:26 AM
I once grew four outside in massive pots, they got so big my old man said they couldn't stay, so I shipped them up to my sisters and told her she could have half. After a few days three of the plants were gone,

kept the last one growing and growing but alas it was a male after all that. Pretty flowers though
x
S
wakenbaker
May 30 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (Bad Penny. @ May 30 2009, 12:16 PM)

QUOTE (BioBuzz @ May 30 2009, 11:12 AM)

You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......Its fairly late to be cracking beans now,hurry on

Correct

You can be standing in a field with dozens of plants,red hot summers day,unless you get right up and stick your nose in them theres no smell,forget the people who tell you your plants can be whiffed from 5-100 yards away,they havent got a clue what they are chatting about

On a certain seed selling website under the description for Big buddah cheese it says "if planting outdoors please be wise with the planting spot because later on there will be a smell of terrific pot later on that season." Now I know seed descriptions are often missleading regarding yield and finish times but would they put something down if its not true and may possibly reduce sales?? Believe me if canna cant be smelled from a a few yards away im a happy geurrilla.
Wake
Punk
May 30 2009, 12:07 PM
lowryders are ok try aks.most pot does smell at some stage.try growing other flowering plants at the same time.
weedineed
May 30 2009, 12:22 PM
hi,
well i would say the absolute opposite mate they stink and dont let anyone tell you different. they dont smell during veg but i garuntee you get a half decent strain and it will stink come flowering time. i had two big plants that where taller then me and they stunk as soon as i get near the spot about 8-10metre away from the plants. so telling people they wont stink is abit silly when they go to the plot to discover that its not there anymore. btw i grew a pack of nirvana misty so if they do im sure that most will.
Bad Penny.
May 30 2009, 12:22 PM
QUOTE (wakenbaker @ May 30 2009, 12:37 PM)

QUOTE (Bad Penny. @ May 30 2009, 12:16 PM)

QUOTE (BioBuzz @ May 30 2009, 11:12 AM)

You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......Its fairly late to be cracking beans now,hurry on

Correct

You can be standing in a field with dozens of plants,red hot summers day,unless you get right up and stick your nose in them theres no smell,forget the people who tell you your plants can be whiffed from 5-100 yards away,they havent got a clue what they are chatting about

On a certain seed selling website under the description for Big buddah cheese it says "if planting outdoors please be wise with the planting spot because later on there will be a smell of terrific pot later on that season." Now I know seed descriptions are often missleading regarding yield and finish times but would they put something down if its not true and may possibly reduce sales?? Believe me if canna cant be smelled from a a few yards away im a happy geurrilla.
Wake
I think they are lying to increase sales figures

Seeds in this country are sold as "Novelties" so your hardly going to prosecute under the trades descriptions act so how will misleading the public reduce sales?Its a tiny percentage of growers on forums such as this,a small percentage read magazines etc(and the mags probably wouldnt print the complaints as Big Buddah probably advertises in them).No ones ever going to complain that the advertising hype is lying with respect to outdoor smell.I have stood 50-60-70 yards away from a fully budded plantation in asia,genuine indicas,and couldnt smell them.In Downtown Peshawar in pakistan there used to be a huge patch with several thousand plants just growing wild opposite the AMEX office,I was staying in Rajah Bazaar and had to pop over to the AMEX often,from the other side of the road you couldnt smell a thing

The Big Buddah Cheese adverts are fictionally worded,I challenge anyone to prove otherwise?
wakenbaker
May 30 2009, 12:54 PM
No i didnt mean people would complian. I meant people growing outdoors might be put of from buying cheese in the first place for security reasons. Instead they might buy seeds from a differnt company. It would certanly put me off. Im gonna try and do a poll to get the bottom of this.
wake
Bad Penny.
May 30 2009, 01:00 PM
Wake,every single year there are huge hemp fields in Essex and Herts,drive past one,now and again on very windy days you might just catch the minty tang of weed on an eddying current,if its a still day you drive past and smell zilch,fair enough its only hemp,but we are talking about hundreds of thousands of plants,yet on still days you cant smell them from 20 yards away at the roadside,kind of puts the average guerilla grow of a few dozen plants being found by smell into perspective
erbivore9
May 30 2009, 04:42 PM
My first outdoor plant was a stinker, on hot days you could catch a wiff at 5-10m and it was only 1 and a half feet tall. Some plants wont smell much but i wouldnt want to assume that whatever you grow wont.
420Farmer
Jul 13 2009, 11:36 PM
If you want the plant to be really bushy and not high at all you could top a few branches this makes the new growth horizontal kinda thing. i normally top my plants to make them bushy cause i like the look of it and so they don't stick out tops of trees
leroy
Jul 14 2009, 12:07 AM
QUOTE (Bad Penny. @ May 30 2009, 12:16 PM)

QUOTE (BioBuzz @ May 30 2009, 11:12 AM)

You have to shake the plants to get a smell off any of the outdoor stuff I've seen......
forget the people who tell you your plants can be whiffed from 5-100 yards away,they havent got a clue what they are chatting about

you obviously haven't grown Super Skunk outdoors then, i could smell it from 30 yrds, i had to cut it at 7.5 weeks as my whole house stank from the moment you walked in the back door
mr mojo risin
Jul 14 2009, 12:47 AM
Good question for people who havent grew outdoors before.

I've grew lots of different strains outdoors and never had any 'problems' with smell.. The smellier the better in my book but i know some folk need to watch in the gardens.. Dont worry about smell mate its minimal outside. The house will stink to high heaven when you are trimming it but in the garden i wouldnt panic unless where you are growing it is right beside a window or something (but then they would see it before they smelled it i suppose:S)
For example, if you shit outside it wont smell like shit a week later unless you touch it but its obviously still honking just a bit windswept

(fuck that was a weird way of describing what im trying to say but you get the picture) Aye, on a hot day when you stand right next to a particulary smelly lady (even a couple of feet away i suppose) you do get an odd whiff but to smell out an outdoor patch would take some nose! Its almost easier to smell an indoor grow when outdoors than and outdoor IMO.. Ive never stumbled upon someone outdoor plants outside but ive smelled a few grows when walking past garages/houses in the past.
DISCLAIMER- My shit experiment didnt actually happen, but im willing to post a week old jobby and a fresh one to anyone who doesnt believe my theory to test it for the forum (all in the name of science of course) :S
ODB
moggggys
Jul 14 2009, 12:58 AM
well i dont like to dispute something such as smell as its dependent on so many things but i will say this
ive errrr a few plants in the backgarden , theres say 60 small sk1 plants plus approx 40 or so 3 footers , approx 40 lowrysders and crosses plus 5 5 footers out there , the strains are all over the shop from cheese to afg to M39 , chronic , nigerian etc to real obscure stuff and the smell if getting rather strong , its possible to smell them from approx 20 foot into the 150 foot garden , i live at the top of a hill and theres a reasonable wind blast here , the smell is clear and has been noted by a couple of people , theres little i can do except remove plants at the first oppertunity , i cant say what smells the most as they all stink a little with the sum being they stink alot , the ak/lowryders are very bad as is the herjiana and the NN , nebular is also an issue and today i chopped an autoflowering sweet tooth
in other words dont be like me , im stupid
weedineed
Jul 14 2009, 01:01 AM
QUOTE (Outdoorbore @ Jul 14 2009, 01:47 AM)

Good question for people who havent grew outdoors before.

I've grew lots of different strains outdoors and never had any 'problems' with smell.. The smellier the better in my book but i know some folk need to watch in the gardens.. Dont worry about smell mate its minimal outside. The house will stink to high heaven when you are trimming it but in the garden i wouldnt panic unless where you are growing it is right beside a window or something (but then they would see it before they smelled it i suppose:S)
For example, if you shit outside it wont smell like shit a week later unless you touch it but its obviously still honking just a bit windswept

(fuck that was a weird way of describing what im trying to say but you get the picture) Aye, on a hot day when you stand right next to a particulary smelly lady (even a couple of feet away i suppose) you do get an odd whiff but to smell out an outdoor patch would take some nose! Its almost easier to smell an indoor grow when outdoors than and outdoor IMO.. Ive never stumbled upon someone outdoor plants outside but ive smelled a few grows when walking past garages/houses in the past.
DISCLAIMER- My shit experiment didnt actually happen, but im willing to post a week old jobby and a fresh one to anyone who doesnt believe my theory to test it for the forum (all in the name of science of course) :S
ODB
hey outdoorbore i really dont think your theory is right. maybe you should send me the samples then i can take a sniff should i pm my addy?
mr mojo risin
Jul 14 2009, 01:23 AM
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hey outdoorbore i really dont think your theory is right. maybe you should send me the samples then i can take a sniff should i pm my addy?

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haha aye dude pm the addy and dont forget to stick 15 quid into my paypal to cover 2 meals and postage expenses! I'll wrap it up like a fish supper in wax paper so its not losing any potency en route.
but seriously man ive done some fairly good sized grows and never smelled any of them unless right next to them more or less. maybe my sense of smell aint as good as yours but i can smell a reefer at 1000 paces when i aint got any! Maybe some of the indoor strains stink outside but ive never even wasted my time trying to grow them up here as it would only end in a smokeless winter for me so i cant comment about them i guess but surely they cant smell 100x (which is what they would need to smell like to be smelled at any distance) worse than say durban or some of the skunky danish strains ive grew here?
Anyways, just read the thread and it seems some smell it and some dont. Confusing for the OP i suppose but as i say ive never smelled any plant from a distance outdoors. I think yous must have a nose like an anteater to smell it that far!
ODB
moggggys
Jul 14 2009, 01:33 AM
i will confess ive a smell ability beyond most people mind and in the past some crops were worse than others , ducksfoot hardly smelt at all unless i was right upon it as an example , but then i can smell a chronic clone with just 4 leaves on it from across a room , if i mess up and mix up the clones i can use smell to find out which was what , perhaps im a freak !
weedineed
Jul 14 2009, 02:04 AM
moggy maybe you should be on heroes

but na i have only really smelt them when there in flowering i mean you can smell them when near but in flowering its quite noticable. having said that i noticed that i could smell weed when near my plot the other day but as i get closer it disapears. its like someone elses crop i can smell but i know its not. too close.
edit to add the reason i was posting this is because i was gonna say i almost have a blocked nose all year round i cant smell anything unless its strong. but i always smell weed

imaybe i was a sniffer dog in my previous life
batfuds
Jul 14 2009, 07:47 AM
A Spanish friend was given the Exodus Cheese clone last year, a few months ago I was round there and a friend of his was complaining that you could clearly smell his 1 Cheese plant from 500 meters away on his urbanisation.
If you have more that 1 or 2 plants here [Spain] it is an issue, smelly plants smell, my friend with 'a few' Kali Mists started pooping his panties when they were still in Veg, after getting a woody/insence smell one August day... and this is one I would recommend for it's low/not obvious odour. FWIW, I do not know why, but that was the worst he got, when they flowered, the smell never really lurked around the place, luckily....
Cheese is an absolute no-no, but IMO, sativas give more innocent smells, Skunks with their Afghani influence stink more like the public think 'drugs' smell like.
If you want an Indica, I know Himalayan Gold is a very low odour variety that is an excellent smoke.
Mr Frisian
Jul 14 2009, 09:02 AM
Mine smell from 10yrd at the minute and STINK if you disturb them

Purple no1 only tho
Bad Penny.
Jul 14 2009, 09:08 AM
Cant smell mine at all till I am right in them,and thats the biggest patch of 70 plants

I have a decent sense of smell,I can easily tell when my neighbour is smoking a ciggie in his garden 20 yards away,and can detect a faint smell of plants as soon as I enter my mates house and his grow is upstairs in his spare room
Bad Penny.
Jul 14 2009, 09:19 AM
Better add thats plot is hidden behind a fence and some trees,only 20 yards maximum from a public footpath,been growing there for a number of years.
moggggys
Jul 14 2009, 11:07 AM
i think i have sussed a gadge of peoples smell ability , you know soil smells of weed when a plants grown in it , i can tell the strain if i have grown a bit , as an example i can tell if cheese or sweet tooth has been grown in a lump of soil , i normally find this when digging out the old roots
yossman
Jul 14 2009, 01:59 PM
Never smelt any thing on my outdoor plots,until there in touching distance.....its a different matter in the back garden but still not to bad..it depends on strain and numbers,strong skunk and cheese plants are the one's to to avoid in back garden grows,if you have close nieghbours..
outdoors i think the local vegitation is so dense,it almost masks the smell of weed,i seriously could not smell any of my plots last year,until i was right up on the plants..
peace yossman
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