hello

i use bio grow from beginning and my plants are 14th days of flowering. i bought fish mix yesterday and i wonder i can use bio bizz fish mix instead of bio grow from now ? may that cause to stress my plants ?

if i can use fish mix instead of bio grow,how much shold i use ? the same rate of bio bizz grow ?

Yes you can use fish mix during flower at the same ratio as grow...

I just finished a grow in which nothing but fishmix was used through 12/12, barring a minor splash of Epsom salts. Just Fishmix, no grow, no bloom, just Fishmix.

The end results are great, TBH! Yields were untouched as far as I can see; Taste is slightly more intense and maybe a touch sweeter but just as pleasing; Hit is as strong as ever; Burn is absolutely fantastic. Spliffs stay lit for a good while without going down, they burn evenly all around and the ash is a light light grey bordering on white - perfect!
I'm going back to Grow and Bloom for one more grow just to make sure; but in the future I may well find myself sticking with just Fishmix. Not certain yet, but I am thinking it's a possibility.

Ive always wounded if i could use fishmix in flowering. Now i seen this thread think il give it a go.

fish mix is really that good for your soil ...as with all fish derived plant mediums (compost and feed ) they are number one in my opinion ... the whole plant just looks so happy in fishmix fed composts or soil mix's and it will also increase compost micro bio-diversity to boot .....

all in all wonderful stuff ...


riptd

cool, fish-mix... where can i get this stuff, do they sell it at garden centers etc?

How many ml per litre were you using during the peak of flowering arnie?

Sorry fella, I am not so precise as to measure in ml, these days. I used about two tablespoons to every seven or eight litres of water.
But not every watering, more like every other watering. And they had couple of longer gaps between meals too. I also tailed off the feed for the last two weeks. No particular reason, just didn't get around to it. I would normally have fed to the end. I'm afraid my method of growing is becoming a tad ramshackle, but it seems to be working for me at the mo

thanks guys.i have just fed my plants with fishmix .

Ta, going to give it a blast next time around. Take two bottles into the growroom?, not me.

bin talkin bout usin fish mix for a while now an and by goin what arnold said im
def gonna give it a go , off to me local shop this weekend me thinks


Farmer

yeah your right ilg .. its cheaper in the long run ... mine seems to last me for ages ... I use 3/4 ml per ltr in veg and 2 ml in flower .. I also decant it in to a large fat jar with screw on lid ... because its easier when I use my syringe to measure......store it in the fridge if its gonna be hot summer ......it will stink if gone off,,

so pound for pound its worth its weight in gold ....



riptd

Must be something wrong with my nose as i find the fish mix doesnt smell much worse than the grow maybe a bit stronger but not unpleasant, like a bovril smell with a slight fish paste background.

oh god it smells WRONG...when it gets on your hands...you really gotta scrub otherwise everytime you smell your hand - well it makes me feel SICK...hehehe

Man think id move out if i spilt it on my carpet. Once i left some in some water checked back on it in a few days and the smell actually knocked me back haha

I don't think it smells bad at all. I've come to quite like the smell, actually. Sort of healthy, organic aroma, MmmMMMmmmm.
You ought to smell the air round here come muck-spreading season. A few hundred tons of fermented bull, cow and pig shyte, now that smells a bit
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now thats what i call a pile of shit , bet your sponserd by airwick come spredin season a arnie

Probably smells better than a poo farm on a hot summers day. Rotting human shit has to be the worst.

I used to compost bio-solids (treatment sludge) mixed it with used cattle bedding (wood chip) in 500 cubic metre covered windrows ...not so bad the smell .. and then when it had passed the required temperature (65 degree c for a few mins or 50 degrees for 3 days)we fed the lot in to in-vessel worm digester's to reduce its volume
a very interesting thing would happen to the heavy metal content ... as it went through the process and reduced in volume (composting stage) the heavy metal content would increase .. but feed it to a worm digester and they reduce .. the funny thing is , that there was no bio accumulation of the heavy metals in the worms and the question is still being asked ... what happens to the heavy metal content ...

Now composting fish , shell fish and salmon morts , thats a fecking smell you never forget in hurry ... we had to plan it so carefully so that when we received it we used huge great big foggers with lemon scent to mask the smell when we were making the windrows ..

always new coz you could smell the lemon from miles away .... had to other wise risk losing your composting licence


so bad was the smell up close that I see a few folks lose there breakfast on the spot

i started vegging on 10 MAY and my plants have light-green leaves . i applied 3ml/1L fish mix and all of them have darkgreen leaves now.
i loved fish mix .but i read bio grow has some vitamines and aminoacids for flowering. i wonder fishmix has them too ?

i wanted to mean " i started flowering 10 may " ,sorry i was stoned

i cant edit someone stole edit button

I personally use 2ml per ltr in veg and 4ml per ltr in flower.

My friend also swears by on it by mixing half a ml per ltr to mist cuttings with.

Adding other's like Top Max and Heaven, Bloom, and Grow, as well as Fish Mix. It's got to be the works oh forgot Bio Bizz root Juice too, surely all of these mixed together will give outstanding results?.

Top max is a waste of time, just makes your weed taste like crap and does nothing.

NO!!! Heaven, Topmax and Rootjuice are not needed.

Grow and Bloom or Fish-Mix and Bloom or just Fish-Mix as Arnold done, you defo cant use Fish-Mix and Grow together as there both high in N, basically they both do the same thing but i must say i've ditched my Grow this time and used Fish-Mix and the plants are loving it

Dont think i'll go back to Grow now to be honest.

yes bro pls dont use topmax it is expensive and useless. everybody told me " dont use it " but i bought it. now i see i was wasting my time .

fish mix does work. Gives a nice dark green color to the leafs.

Will definatly buy it again.

dont know about Alg-A-mic though (see weed extract). anyone used it before?

Herd some bad things about Algamic but without Top Max you dont have an PK 13 14 effect.I have been led to believe that the Top Max is ya boost surely this is vital for ya flowers?.I'm going to let this bottle run out and see if there's any difference.So what about PK 13/14 would you use something else and if so what would it be.Remember we are organic growers and we want it to stay that way too.

Algamic - tried it, binned it.
TopMax - tried it, binned it.
PK13.14 - never tried, what would I need that for? huh? I mean, what is it, anyway?
Boost - huh? What boost? Why?

I use Biobizz Grow and Bloom, a touch of PM Bio-silicon, and Epsoms if wanted. Apart from that, maybe a little seaweed if I have any ... That's the lot, really.

that sounds like way too much

ive not gone over 1ml fishmix per litre yet and plants are healthy as you like

hello arnold,
i think every first time grower (incl. me ) try algamic and topmax first although experienced growers say they are crap and waste of money .

well i decided to buy a bottle to day for my bonsai mums...and i opened it up and thought i'll give it a smell, and i thought it smelt like bovrill aswell.

id only use pk 13/14 in chemical grows as its not organic and could kill your microlife , there is a new organic pk so if you have to use it use that.

also try adding the molasses instead of topmax
i will be testing seaweed tea every couple of weeks soon as it supposed to have hormones that boost flowering/growth maybe a touch of bat guano as it contains good bacteria as well and also worm castings for fulvic acid,
might call it agito boost and sell it £15 a bottle

natures boosters

i did the same with no problem leave it till tomorrow and then give a quick shake unscrew the cap and take a big snifff.
sent my guts round a few times

Great stuff is bb fish mix, b/mums love it.

Peace,
GG

..mind you, once diluted down and left to stand, i can smell the fish in it now, though i dont think it smells that bad.
will give the actual bottle a sniff tomorrow.

That's because once you get a bit of experience under your belt, one of the first things you realise is how much of rip-off these shite products really are.

Put it this way, I'm going to get rid of about 5 or 6 things that I'll never use again.

I also think that, when you are growing organically, you do need to research what you're supposed to be doing and what it all means. Because once you have that knowledge, you can make your own amendments to a nutrient regime without wasting loads of money on shite that you could easily make up yourself for next to nothing.

I've had a tea bubbling in the kitchen since last night. Big massive frothy head on it. It's the first one I've ever made and I'm well pleased with it. That's my boost.

I would bet, based on what I know now, that most of these mega bud, hyper grow, super incredible bullshit "boosts" that are marketed directly at ganja growers who know fuck all about growing in general, are made up from simple to obtain high phosphorus and potassium sources, and I'll also bet that half the time they're not nearly as good as ones you could make yourself.



Fish mix is good though...

Good thread, very useful info....

Ive been using fishmix for a while now. I use it only as a foliar spray while vegging andd first week or so into flower. When using allmix I usually veg for 3 to 4 weeks and feed only water and a Fishmix foliar spray (1ml per litre) each watering. Once swiched onto a flowering cycle i'll strat to introduce Grow and Bloom at 1ml per litre each watering and continue to foliar feed with Fishmix till the first flowers start to show.

Yes fishmix does smell!

I have to agree with whats been said, I can deffo say the plants seem to love Fishmix. I havent tried it as a watering feed yet, but will replace Grow with it next time round.

Topmax doesnt really do anything to the best of my knowledge, except cost money.

If you havent tried fishmix before deffo worth grabbing a bottle. It is an excellent foliar feed....

How long can you leave fishmix in water before actually giving it to your plants? If i leave it over night it stinks really bad but i guess this could be a good thing

I did use alg-a-mic, and i did see an increase in health in my plants. Just general vigour seemed improved really, much more resistant to some things like stress etc. with it. But thinking about it the same benefits will probably be reaped by using the fishmix instead of grow.

Why are people using fishmix and bloom when just fishmix will do?
Replacing two bottles with one is tempting .

prolly cause we all want to give "the best" to our plants. When u have that nute bottle in your cabinet, you re very tempted to feed your girls with it.

personally i use Grow and bloom only, with a touch of epsoms towards the end. But after reading Arlnolds post about the fish mix, i think i ll get me a bottle. fish mix does make a difference and i question myself why i havent bought it again.

Last time i used was a few years back on a outdoor grow. Saw amazing results with beautiful dark green leafs. As a matter of fact those plants won "best outdoor" and their genes werent anything "special"

I always thought you shouldn't leave nutes mixed, but should mix them when you need them.
Can't remember exactly why, i think OT1 said it's bad?

Bio-Bizz Fish mix

I'm about to buy some soil nutes ready for when I go 12/12. I like the sound of what I've been reading about Fishmix, but is it really the consensus not to bother with bloom as well. It seems wrong to me not to be giving a high P feed during flowering.