hey guys, how you doing? beautiful day today! havent posted in a while, been working on the tent...as you may or may not know heres how the setup should go:

dark tent dr240w (240x120x200),
2 flood and drain table kits 16 pot each,
600w hps cooltube + 400w MH diamond on each (2000w total) suspended with easi rolls,
4 way timer contactor/relay

2 8" ruck fans with 8" rhino filter on each
ecotechnics thermostat/humidity controller for exhaust
passive intakes through vents (neg pressure)

the garage was full of excess household belongings but having moved everything and made space..here it goes

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shows proximity of tent to the gas meter!
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shows proximity of tent to the electricity meter!
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more to come...

What about the guy who reads the meters?!!

the goodies pictured in full
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goodies again, mainly the lighting all here
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in the next shots im gonna need some advice!

here you can see the fan and filter...its massive, how do i suspend it close too the ceiling? will the tent pipelines support it? i have another one on the other side if you noticed from other pictures!
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see those pipes? im gonna need two more atleast, anyone have any ideas where i can get anything similar? it came with the tent...
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more help needed (easi rolls) in next shots...

Where can i buy a J hook or a C hook to hang these? i have 4 sets of easi rolls for the 4 lights
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okay heres where i need major help!
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this is part of the flood and drain table kit. As pictures, i have all the parts, except for the actual legs! I have the corner joints etc but the legs are missing for both tables. From the instruction book i have the dimensions of the legs but they need to be plastic/waterproof? where can i obtain new legs? i have emailed the vendor and no reply since last week!

any ideas?!

thanks for looking love you guys

hey ratdog, ive got more plans up my sleeves for that. I'm going to cardboard out the tent once its complete and setup. Then i have 2 points of entry. Front and back. each point of entry represents each point for each guy/meter reader.

I have a meter at the front, only need to open one garage door and show him..those boxes up front are my empties and will be tidied up soon...
The meter on the back il take them through the house and out back so as they step in they turn right...il have that side covered regardless.. hope that helps!

nb. they will come once every 4-6 months for me from now..thanks to the members in the other topic i call my readings in..

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il have all this covered! silent, ambient, non the wiser
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hey guys, hope your enjoying the bank holiday weekend...

Im struggling for a table for my flood and drain kits! i have dimensions as supplied with the kit i needed but where do i go? bnq? homebase? i need exactly 10 pieces to build the frame. so 20 because im missing two tables. Any ideas?

I have the hooks for the easi rolls so thats in place...

I need to get something for the 8" cf's to sit on, tall enough to let it rest near the tent ceiling.
I thaught about suspending it off the ceiling itself but the tent wont support the weight..definately not for both

Everything is as it should be... so far anyway.

I was wondering what you guys thaught, should i keep a grow log or diary or not? I was thinking more of a summary with pics after veg, during flower, after flower, after cure...

What do you guys reckon? I am seriously lacking motivation these days. Will be getting my groove on in under a month!

Thanks!!

Sweet setup bro,...wish i had the room for that kinda kit.
what sorta grow ya doin,get the fucker scrogged up eh..

Hey dude, glad you like!

Going to partition the room down the middle (sealed/removable wall to be built ) and then this is whats up;

Going to start with 15 beans to the right, sex them get rid of the males, take cuttings of all 15 and reveg them to the left. Once the girls to the right finish flower il pick the best pheno from the lot to clone from my parent-clones. I'll then get rid of the excess parent-clones and grow out a full run (instead of half) of that selected pheno.

All 15 beans will be SD but I may be switching that to the following; (where available) 5 sd, 5 sd x blueberry, 5 super silver sour diesel haze.
In such case, instead of keeping one pheno, il keep three. 1 of each strain. This means 3 parent-clone mothers will be kept instead of one (out of 15). From the 3 chosen phenos il take 10 cuttings from each and grow that out on both tables...

...I don't know much at all about scrog set-ups but i would love the more frequent harvests.. however for now im gonna keep it sweet and simple ^^

Cheers!!

Well shit, that setup will work, nicely done sir.

In a space that size don't bother with a SCROG mate you should get plenty to smoke.

Best of luck to you

Hi soso

Thats some lighting set up

Im worried you wont be able to lower the lights with fan inline hanging in middle

also all those twists and turns in ducting will cause drag and noise

cool tibes were designed to have a seperate cool air supply running thru them

In the UK its common for us to extract thru them

So - you could have one fan extracting straight up and out

the other fan just cooling the 2 cool tubes -

hb

OK Just noticed

Your not supposed to extract and intake in same room

CO2 wil become depleted!

Just another thought - plants need to be 20c lights off - It will be near freezing in winter

make a hole in wall house side and draw fresh temperature stable air in from cavity ( assuming there is one)

filtered hot air can then go straight out into the garage ( stealthy )

cavity air is warm in winter and cool in summer - (less bugs and pests) and noise

hb

SSSDH!!....WOW!!

good to see you got a sorted plan of attack anyway.

yeh quality strains bro too.....good luck and nice one mucker...bizzi.

Hey heyboy, thanks for the heads up... the cooltubes are connected with ducting to an rvk inline fan inbetween. It sucks air out from one light and pushes air through the other. There is only ducting in the middle to connect the fan to the cooltubes. I allowed more ducting on each side of the rvk to allow the cooltubes to be lowered and raised on the eazi-rolls there hung off. i learned from other peoples mistakes thanks for the tip thou!

I dont think the pic is clear enough but there is only one U bend on each side of the rvk fan that connects the ducting. I have tested the flow and the rvk pushes more than enough power to move that hot air away. Also the cooltube>rvk>cooltube is NOT connected to the cf or exhaust. Surprisingly the rvk is close to silent when running..




Can you please explain about the co2 depletion?
I have two 8" phat filters on 8" rhino fans. The fans are directly mounted onto the cf's. I then have (acoustic) ducting in a L bend shape for each one to shoot up and out the roof ports on the tent.
As before, the inline fan is independant to the exhaust ones.

The exhaust fans are rigged to my ecotechnics controller along with a floor standing fan heater.
The ecotechnics controllers got a humidity/temp sensor and adjusts the speed/heat of things to stay in tune (while also keeping my neg pressure active).

I didnt think co2 rich air would be much of a problem since i am running neg pressure? I will be buying an airstone for each table to allow oxygen rich air into the root-zones. Will that help?


Ill get better pics up for you guys soon, thanks for looking out peeps and for all the positive vibes! Cheers!

you musta spent a small fortune buying all that gear at once


instead of using hooks, i use cable ties, el cheapo method

You need to blow throu the cool tubes not suck the air directly coming out the lamp is hot air not a good mix with plastic impelare blades on the fan

yes i totally agree.. sucking the hot air thru your fan is a very bad idea. not only will it shorten the life of your fan but it could cauze a fire also .. you always want to suck the cool air and then blow it over your lights, this is the only method i would use.. as sucking hot air over your fan will make it blow out.

hey guys, thanks for the heads up... gonna have to find a new location for the rvk fan... think that seeing as its no good in the most ideal position (the middle).. i may double it as a 'intake' at the same time as blowing fresh air into the tubes and cooling it down and blowing it out.. (instead of sucking as you guys have suggested)....

So that leaves me scratchign my head with my ductwork bag... im technically limited with space at the top of the room as the tubes come so close to the extract when raised at a maximum (late flowering). I am generally inclined towards HSE (health and safety) and in the oil industry the floorplanners usually think up the worst case scenarios and try to prevent them or provide a solution before endangering the habitat ... so with that in mind im trying to iron everything out post-run!

i have vented passive intakes and can open them up all the way, roughly 4" on eithe side.

Considering i am to move the rvk from the middle, i will join up the ductwork and suspend it there-about (to maintain raise and lower efficiency). I wil then pipe a ductwork of one end of a cooltube and join it to the rvk. Question is where to put the fan? Im thinkin or makin a duct-hole in the breezeblock wall towards the back of the garage. But thats the toilet-space my extracts are going too! ?!?

Also what about my negative pressure and co2 depletion thats raised my eyebrow.. Will i run into any problems with you guys experience?

thanks for the info so far guys!! really it means alot to me. no matter how small this world may seem, these things are hard to find someone to ask/talk to...im glad we have a community here with likeminded people. life feels so...when your alone

Tbh i initially spent £1100 on the tent, table kit, lights etc.. then in an effort to dial in my requirements and customise what i already had i spent a further £1k (from 2xhps i now have 4xlights hps/mh, larger extracts and better fan speed controller while using my old school primair for the cooling of tubes)

That braught me to a total of £2100. I managed to further spend roughly £900 on fixtures and fittings (ducting, 2xtable rebuilds, 2x contactors to run lights individually 2x timers to allow 24/0 and 12/12 on either side, nutes, coco etc.).

Thats £3k initial investment.. and expecting another £300 for the beans alone! (yes £300!).

I planned it this way because i managed to save up for a 'total cost' figure and having purchased it like that. It is easier, much easier for me to manage the ongoing costs to maintain, as long as my current equipment is reliable and doesnt require replacing...

e2a If I had knew from the start i where to invest so much, i would have part'ex'd my car and baught something else instead. , then again where would I be today?
e2a actual figures vary below what ive quoted ^^.. i always round up and over budget

Cheers!!

Hey

I grow in what you could call a small garrage...well its about half the size of a garage and it has a door outside. My grow room is a small 1.2x1.2mx1.75m wooden kingspan lined box with a 600w growstar etc etc. The room the box is in is about 20ft by 15ft, I leave the door (not of my grow room but of the room)open all the time in the simmer and in the winter I close it at lights off (in the day) if it's really cold. I have to leave it open otherwise it over heats and or the co2 becomes depleted because you have no fresh air coming in...and a shit load of hot air coming out. I started growing early this year when it was really cold, I left my door closed and it got to 32 degrees c in an hour when the lights were on...co2 depletion would be the least of your worries.

To combat the cold in the winter I have 3 tube heaters and shut the door at lights off. Oh and I will be closing one of my three 6" passive intakes

There are plenty of people on here who grow in garages and sheds and shit so you'll be cool, just make sure the room has plenty of ventilation and before you know it you'll have a jungle in there!

good set up man

Good thread SSF, soon I'll be growing in a garage again too so I'm making some handy notes from what people including yourself have had to say here. The garage my grow room is in is pretty large, probably what's known as a double seeing as how it has two garage doors side by side, though I reckon with some 1st class parking skills one could probably fit 4 cars in it! My major stumbling block in the past has been the whole ventilation issue. My past plants have all died within the space of a couple of days of being put in. At first I only had my 125mm inline fan mounted in the wall for extraction and one passive intake which was about the same size. No wonder that it all went tits up really. I added another pair of passive intakes and plan to add two more in the next few days to bring it to a total of five. I'd love to just convert to a fan for intake, but don't have the loose change lying around at present, hopefully by Christmas time my situation will have changed. My only fear is that even with the added air circulation within the grow room the fact that the garage doesn't have any decent air exchange with the outside might still be a hindrance. The only air exchange at present is a gap of about 0.5 - 1cm around both garage doors. I'm hoping this will be enough especially as the South African summer is fast approaching when the mean temperatures can easily rise into the mid 30's (Celsius)!

Hey Adder, hows it? lakr stuff!

Springchicken thanks for the heads up, im glad i came to the right place! Over at icmag there just focussed on genetics imho.
I think ive understood now, ventilation is key to my success. And yours...

Adder, i understand how your going to start in the garage. Have you considered negative pressure? Meaning your exhaust is larger than your intake (air movement volume/m3/hour) In such case, your kingspanned gr should suck air from all available nucks and crannies. Not only do you get added benefits such as smellproofing but you also get the disadvantages of neg pressure. Equally positive pressure has its disadvantages too...

With neg pressure im assuming (correct me if im wrong) that if you exhaust 'out of the garage itself' and have your intake from 'inside' the garage. You should be able to acheive your goals. When it comes to co2 rich air, i know nothing about so i am going with my insticts here.
Also because of where your located and the mean temps i think you should have a air con /w kompressor in the garage to maintain good temperature. Also your plants would appreciate an oil filled radiator (if you can get one) that is in the garage (not the gr itself). This lowers humidity for your vented intake. As neg pressure will run from your intake and passive intakes.

I know finance is a problem for everyone especially in this day and age, freeing up a penny proves rather difficult!
Here you can get a cheapish air con for £35, thats roughly 500 rands.

My tent is running neg pressure and exhaust is going 'out' of the garage itself while the passive intakes are vented on the tent and my inline rvk fan acting as a small intake also (located in the garage). I have just put the granny tights over the fan to stop bug sucking.
Personally i dont own an aircon but if need be, i will install one. I have to take my chances currently. From what ive heard so far i dont think il run into tooo much of a problem (now with the recent corrections, thanks everyone!) as i also can open the back door permanently during hot times to let fresh air in.. Temps in your side of the world would prove near impossible to maintain a door for heat dissipation.

When you get the room building and going you will iron out the worst case scenarios prior to filling it up. I have noticed this also. My tent went through just short of 2 years planning (believe that) and from an intial fund of £1100 (R13,000) i am now up to £3-4k! With all my planning on paper, in memory, blueprints and ideology, it was only when i came here to raise my concerns and share my happening that i realised theres a bit more too the things i had once overseen.

There is alot we can all learn from one another and i feel safe to say this is like home for me.

Il update pics shortly... because the test-run beans have already arrived (chemdog f3's) i am hoping to germ them over the weekend.
I will also add a floorplan birds-eye pic so you guys can see how my exhaust is operating (id rather not take a photo of the garage itself because its packed with junk and massive tonk 8" ductpipes going through the breezeblock wall.

Also someone suggested adding an air-hole to the house-side of the garage... well I have added three small ones and also to the detached side I have a few air bricks added near the very top of the garage wall for better ventilation.

I still need to kingspan the garage doors and go wickes to by some plugs. electrical side is all wired and tested on extensions but not hard-wired to electricity/fusebox. I am going too simply re-route the garage light wire to create 8-10 wall sockets to plug everything in.

Thanks guys!! cheers!!

wow SoSoFiZzY, talk about doing it right from the get-go. good grief man, that's a brilliant setup, life is going to be so much easier for you. i like the sound of the split/experimental grow followed by your 'full run'. great idea.
i can't think of much else to say right now. seems like you're getting plenty of sound advice and have the inclination to follow it. good man. i'm looking forward to seeing what you get out of this
i hope the canna gods smile on your harvests and that they are plentiful

Damn bru, that's some expensive kit and the extra leccy consumption would be a fair old bit. The electricity bill is already running at about R4000 (£316) a month. Then again it has been winter and there are 3 old ladies who've been making countless cups of tea and hot water bottles with heaters, televisions and lights burning pretty much 24/7! Its mega wastage that I don't agree with, but they're on their way out so I wouldn't want to deny them their few pleasures. Thanks for all your lekker insight into the whole garage situation, I'll see what I come up with and supply you with an update.

Hey Adder, ah i see what you mean, i feel you... Take it as it comes there are so many alternatives ideas and innovations as opposed to over-spending. I guess i feel safe with financial targets then i seek out to meet them however its not always possible! Keep me updated with the happenings bru, will be awesome to see you get it up and running.

Hey Pinball Wizard, thanks for the warm words.. Thats really sweet of you holmes, your words are deep-felt and make me really warm inside...
"If its worth doing, it's worth doing right"-HST

I try my best and im glad I have your lots encouragement, as it is all i need to keep me going through these grim and dark days...

Take care and peace brothers, Cheers!!

10 out of 10 for that set up,well done.keep it green.