green dreemer
May 22 2009, 06:19 PM
hi there i have just brought a pack of 5 tundra plants there one of the new dutch passion's auto range they are going to be grown in a mates grenhouse
has any of you tried growing these my grow shop owner said that they should be good outdoors so if anone has any advise or grow smoke reports would be greatly appreciated
diggle17
May 28 2009, 06:54 PM
where do u get dutch passion seed from cant seem to find them since the uk420 seed shop closed
green dreemer
May 28 2009, 11:34 PM
ohh now i hope i havnt made another bad choice of seed i think i might now run out and get some other auto's now the only other ones my local grow shop have is budda seeds white dwarf does anyone now if these are any good
my last dutch passon plant euforia i have just thrown out because after 6 weeks of 12/12 i only had buds the size of your little finger nail
i have now brought flying dutchmans power skunk and have just planted them hopefull for better luck
green dreemer
May 28 2009, 11:47 PM
i have just brought some power skunk from flying dutchman does anybody now if this was a good choice and has anyone got any advise on growing this strain to get the best yield from 1 plant in a small cupboard please any help or comments would be greatly appreciated
agito
May 30 2009, 06:25 PM
think you need a new thread mate
the dutchman's a good breeder so you cant go far wrong
green dreemer
Jun 1 2009, 01:58 AM
QUOTE (agito @ May 30 2009, 07:25 PM)

think you need a new thread mate
the dutchman's a good breeder so you cant go far wrong
they were in separate threads until someone merged them when i didnt want them merged
net2-3
Jun 1 2009, 12:54 PM
I sowed four autos at the same time about 5 weeks ago. White Dwarf, AK47, Hindu Kush and Tundra, all are showing plenty of pistils and are starting to flower apart from the Tundra

Sounds like Dutch Passion might be having some trouble with their autos.
agito
Jun 2 2009, 12:23 AM
i was so looking forward to getting the tundra
green dreemer
Jun 2 2009, 04:23 PM
has any body had any luck with the dutch passion tundra or taiga all iv heard is that they dont auto flower has this happened to every one who has tried them and if this is the case they must need 12/12 shift to flower then if any one has done this how are they getting one has anyone had a crop of them yet
surly not all of them dont auto flower or thier would be outrage! but as far as iv heard this is the case,so if any more of you have had problems getting these strains to auto flower,please note your dissapointment on this site.
in the mean time all of my tundra's have germinatedsnd after 9 day's of sun have grown well now having thier first set of 3 fingerd leaves open out.
they look very healthy in thier coco but this is no compensation for the fact that they dont auto flower because i brought them specificatly for a fast outdoor crop
Mr Mullen
Jun 2 2009, 05:27 PM
Hello,
Good luck with your grow mate,
Mrm
Ombudsman
Jun 2 2009, 06:19 PM
Hi sorry i'm a bit confused. Sorry for my lack of knowledge.. I'm a beginner
can auto-flowerers be done outdoors from start to finish with a worthwhile product?
agito
Jun 3 2009, 12:03 AM
off course read the diarys in the outdoor section mate
net2-3
Jun 3 2009, 09:32 AM
My Tundra now has the very first signs of flowers at about the five week mark. The plant is growing really well but if it's only just beginning to flower I reckon it could go on for another seven or eight weeks.
green dreemer
Jun 7 2009, 04:21 PM
im curently 1 week after my power skunk seeds have poped the root riots basicaly i want to now if any of you 420ers have grown this strain before
and if so whats it like do you have any grow tips .can any of you tell me what the smoke is like,how much it stretches whats it like for hunger on those nutes etc
so please any coments would be greatly appreciated
green dreemer
Jun 14 2009, 07:28 PM
so has no one grown power skunk from flying dutchman and can no one give me a smoke report
i would have thought this strain would be quite popular as its a skunk and from a well known seed company
as you can imagine i would love to get some tips on growing this one
my 3 power skunks are now 2 weeks old the 2 that are in coco dont appear that vigorus but the one in my gt 205 nft system is doing fine
up untill a few days ago i thought the growth was a bit slow on them all
i had been bringin my outdoor tundra plants in at night to give them a few extra hours of light and i think i may have introduced some bugs
so i sprayed the plants with some plant vitality and now they are all a bit better and the one in the nft is now growing realy well
so fingers crossed i get a good grow with at least the one in the nft system wich is going to be the favored plant anyway thats why its in the nft as oposed to the other 2 that are in coco.
i now keep the tuundra's out doors all the time now so not to re introduce the bugs and im pretty sure the plant vitality killed all the bugs in one go like it always does but im still going to give then another spray next week with it anyway
i think that plant vitality is a great product
i now hope that the grow goes well and i get some lush green for myself or autumn
green dreemer
Jun 20 2009, 09:20 PM
my tundras are coming up to the five week mark now they look healthy but are very small about 6-8 inches high with them putting out thier fifth set of leaves h does this compare with any of you expieriences with tundra i realise that they have ruderalis in them so does this explain for the small size i mean they are realy compact little plants but i nice healthy green colour they are outside all the time and aregrown on pots of coco and feed with ionic for coco at an ec of 1.0 and ph o 5.8 run to waste hand waterd using the wet and dry method
any more replys would be great
net2-3
Jun 22 2009, 06:05 PM
Hey mate, is she flowering yet? Doesn't sound like a bad size for a five week old Tundra. Mine was five weeks old when this pic was taken, it is the plant on the far right.
Click to view attachmentAnd here she is today at 8 weeks, as you can see she's come on a tiny bit in those three weeks

but still isn't flowering! Probably wouldn't be half as big if it had autoflowered properly
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green dreemer
Jun 22 2009, 09:03 PM
kriecky they have growm in three weeks are yours indoors or out mine are similare to yours at five weeks but mine have much shorter space between the nodes up the main stem but similar
what are you going to do about flowering yours. if mine dont auto flower it may take till autumn to flower like any outdoor plant i really hope they auto flower now the days are getting shorter
bit of a dissapointment arent they when im only doing them for a quick result outdoors i think my indoor power skunk that was planted 2 weeks later will be hoped before the tundra will be wich kind of defeats the point for me
net2-3
Jun 23 2009, 10:23 AM
In my experience the number of nodes developed before flowering get going is the best indicator of the yield of an auto so I wouldn't worry if yours are compact.
My Tundra was going outdoors during the day and under CFLs in the evening to give it 18 hours of light. It went outside permanently just under two weeks ago and has been coming along really fast, I'm topping it lots as I don't want it to get too tall. I'm planning on force flowering from early July, will 12/12 it for a week by popping it under a blanket in the shed.
If you're at 5 weeks already and you don't have any preflowers it sounds like you're going to have trouble with the autoflowering too

Could you force it too?
green dreemer
Jun 26 2009, 02:40 AM
if they dont auto flower they will when the days get short anyway but its not good enough i mean selling these as auto flowering when they blatantly dont is false advertising and another reason i wont buy dutch passion again just because i dont want to give this company any more money after ripping me and every one else who has brought these off. for them not to autoflower as promised i mean it does not show dutch passion of as a credible seed bank
net2-3
Jun 26 2009, 01:43 PM
It is certainly surprising that the Tundra and Taiga appear to be so unstable, especially as I thought DP are a reputable seed bank. I feel sorry for you if you have a whole batch of seeds that isn't going to meet your expectations, it's not really been a problem for me because I've had a mix of things on the go.
green dreemer
Jun 26 2009, 05:12 PM
hooray net 2-3 v have today seen the start of a female pre plower appering on one of the tundra plants its only the very start of one a tiny tiny start to a calax with a tin bit of hair comming out so it seams that at least one of the plants is going to auto flower hooray
i hope that it will actually start flowering and this isnt just a random pre flower
HOORAY HOORAY!!!!!!!
green dreemer
Jun 26 2009, 05:20 PM
And my power skunk was switched to 12/12 last night at 24 days old its so healthy and its the fastest growing plant i have ever had i mean if you go away for 2 hours and come back you can see how much its grown
so fingers crossed it will become a great female and not a hermie its my first go at scroging and im realy enjoying learning something new plus a can see how much its going to improve my yield i just hope my screen is big enough as this plant is living up to its name power skunk wow what a fast growing plant it is i think some of the extra speed this plant has must be down to the grow storm addative from flairform that real does seem to super charge the nutrient solution
starsailor-dylan
Jun 29 2009, 08:08 PM
I bought 5 Autoflowering Tiaga from Dutch Passion. I have always used Dutch Passion - never had a problem.
It was my first time with an Autoflowering strain. After day 40, they still hadnt flowered. I got in touch with Dutch Passion. They said they had a problem with this particular Auto strain and gave me 5 more Tiagas to make up for the problems I was experiencing. They suggested switching the lights off for 48 hours then switching back to 12/12.
After a week they started flowering. 2 were hermies (very pissed off). I had nowhere to put the 5 new Taigas so I put them with the others, 12/12 from seed. Out of the 5. 2 were male. The others started flowering - 1 turned into a hermie.
The original Tiagas are doing very well, they are bigger cause of the extra veg time but I wont use Dutch Passion for Autos anymore.
I have grown amazing high yielding plants from Dutch Passion and will still buy from them. Just stay away from their Auto strain.
net2-3
Jun 30 2009, 09:51 AM
Cheers for your post
Starsailor, I'll keep a careful eye on mine given the number of hermies you've had. I've yet to hear of someone growing Tundra or Taiga and not having problems with autoflowering
Green Dreemer, good to hear you've finally got some preflowers going on, as a word of warning mine first started showing preflowers at about the same stage and then continued to veg, probably because of my topping and training

The plant is still growing like a beast and force flowering starts this evening, so long as I remember

Hope yours start budding up for you very soon, hopefully it will just be a slightly slow start which should hopefully result in bigger yields
green dreemer
Jul 6 2009, 05:27 PM
hi net 2-3 all of my tundra's are now showing pre flowers but no actual bud is foming and they are definatly still growing at least there's no male flower's so all are hopfully female and not hermies
net2-3
Jul 7 2009, 12:25 PM
Still no buds then

. I imagine that if they don't pull their socks up in the next couple of weeks they're not going to autoflower.
I didn't start forcing mine in the end and I reckon it will flower naturally, hopefully around the same time as a Passion #1. It has preflowers on most of the nodes now and that seems to be fairly common on a lot of outdoor plants at this stage this year, I saw one poster who had an outdoor skunk cross in full flower already

My Tundra is an absolute beauty though and is still going from strength to strength, she should give me a good yield in a few months
green dreemer
Jul 9 2009, 01:08 AM
QUOTE (net2-3 @ Jul 7 2009, 01:25 PM)

Still no buds then

. I imagine that if they don't pull their socks up in the next couple of weeks they're not going to autoflower.
I didn't start forcing mine in the end and I reckon it will flower naturally, hopefully around the same time as a Passion #1. It has preflowers on most of the nodes now and that seems to be fairly common on a lot of outdoor plants at this stage this year, I saw one poster who had an outdoor skunk cross in full flower already

My Tundra is an absolute beauty though and is still going from strength to strength, she should give me a good yield in a few months

on mine there ar a few pre flowers on some of the plants but they look very healthy so i hope to get something out of them in the end but overall im very dissapointed with them as they dont do what they say and auto flower wich is in my mind a rip off after all who wants minature plants that take as long as normal plants just with the reduced yields and reduced power due to the ruderalis thats in them i certanly wont be growing any dutch passion seeds again
net2-3
Jul 9 2009, 01:44 PM
Sorry to hear your Tundra are still causing you grief. I wouldn't necessarily write off DP completely, they may have got the autoflowering wrong but from what I've seen otherwise genetically this is a very good plant and certainly not a miniature. Obviously juries out till I try some buds

I've been topping and training mine and it's getting toward 5 feet wide
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starsailor-dylan
Jul 11 2009, 12:43 PM
My Taiga's are doing very well - although they didnt autoflower. I followed Dutch Passion's advice and have kept them under a 12/12 after forcing flowering with 48 hours darkness.
Dutch Passion have always supplied me with excellent seeds and I've had great success with them.
I will stay away from their autoflowering range till they have it right. They supplied me with more seeds to compensate for the issues I had. I will still use them for future grows.
starsailor-dylan
Jul 11 2009, 07:06 PM
OK a few pics of the girls in bloom.
Pic. 1 is one of the original Taiga's from Dutch Passion. 40 days under 18/6. Then 48 hours dark. Then 12/12 ever since. Day 40 flowering today. They are big girls now.
Pic 2. Same plant.
Pic 3. One of the new batch Dutch Passion sent me - unfortunately, been under 12/12 since seed as only 1 grow room. Day 40 from seed. Would love to know if they would have auto flowered under 18/6. Very skinny ladies.
Pic 4. Same plant.
Pic 5. Is one of 5 bag seeds I had. 28 days from seed. 12/12. Am expecting pre flowers very soon.
Pic 6. Same plant.
starsailor-dylan
Jul 11 2009, 07:11 PM
Swap Pic 1 & 2 with Pic 3 & 4 - I uploaded them in the wrong order....
green dreemer
Jul 14 2009, 09:46 PM
pic no4 looks lovely starsailor-dylan hope mine turn out like that unfortunatly mine cant be brought indoors so cant be forced into flowering, so i hope that they will flower well mornally when the days get shorter. all my tundra's are exceptoinaly healthy in thier coco being feed ionic for coco at a strengh of ec 1.2 at a ph of 5.8 but my in door skunk plant should have finnished flowering in 8 weeks so if they havent started flowering well by then i might put them indoors to get a quick yield
by the wau starsailor-dylan how long do they take to finnish flowering once forced on 12/12 light shedule and whats the smoke like the plants look strong from your pic no4
starsailor-dylan
Jul 15 2009, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (green dreemer @ Jul 14 2009, 10:46 PM)

pic no4 looks lovely starsailor-dylan hope mine turn out like that unfortunatly mine cant be brought indoors so cant be forced into flowering, so i hope that they will flower well mornally when the days get shorter. all my tundra's are exceptoinaly healthy in thier coco being feed ionic for coco at a strengh of ec 1.2 at a ph of 5.8 but my in door skunk plant should have finnished flowering in 8 weeks so if they havent started flowering well by then i might put them indoors to get a quick yield
by the wau starsailor-dylan how long do they take to finnish flowering once forced on 12/12 light shedule and whats the smoke like the plants look strong from your pic no4
I am presuming they finish in around 8 weeks. I have grown before and had flowering last 88 days! 56 is normal.
I haven't touched them yet. The crystals are still forming. I wont pick at them till I harvest.
I keep you posted.
green dreemer
Jul 16 2009, 11:58 PM
thanx starsailor-dylan
green dreemer
Jul 19 2009, 05:30 PM
hi all just to let u know how my flying dutchman's power skunk is coming along
basically its terific the one plant after only a four week veg it has compleatly filled my space has at least 20 heads that are just powering up to the light honestly its so far the best performing plant iv ever had its been flowering for 9 days now and allready the highest buds are joining up resin production has started so all in all im extreemly happy with the plant (i think its because it has northern lights in it )so cant wait to see whats she's like in the end if the start is anything to go like she will give a massive yield and with northrn lights and skunk in her cross the smoke should be great aswell
green dreemer
Aug 1 2009, 11:26 PM
my power skunk has now been flowering for 21 days and is still going great the buds are now fattening up nicely the smell is nice when you touch the buds but low on normal growing odour wich is nice and hand while i save up for a carbon filter the plant is producing a decent amount of resin on the buds and leaves so (fingers crossed)it will turn out to be a good or great plant
green dreemer
Aug 12 2009, 11:34 PM
just to let peeps now how my power skunk is getting along
well its is still doing a fantastic job of growing its now been flowering for 4 1/2 weeks and now has aprox 50%brown hairs allready the buds are large and very dense. But the main thing i want to say is iv never come across such a low odour strain i mean it coverd in resin and unlees you touch it you judst cant smell it i mean its not realy a low odour strain its virtually a no odour strain
i mean i have no carbon filter live in the same room as the plant and cant smell it at all
so if your after a ver low odour strain that grows well and yields well id say go for the power skunk
i just hope that the taste is better than the smell but the buds look gorgeous
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