OLDTIMES by Oldtimer1


A bit about Oldtimes, firstly it is very old school, it was bred from esb, its not esb but it has a lot of similar characteristics, I think Oldtimes is nicer, it has a very up type of high but has a little more of a body type stone than any of the lot#, I find the smell a little pungent but less so than the original esb. Flowering for Oldtimes is just over 7.5 to 9.5 weeks, stretch from 12/12 is about 3 times.

The majority are columnar in form with little branching, so they are ideal for sog, if you have ever heard of the term elephant hands, these have the trait with huge sunleaves up to 17 inches across and the middle leaf up to a ft long when its well grown.

The colas have a very high bud to leaf ratio making manicuring a dream, the buds are dense and resin laden.

While Oldtimes grows tall it is very easy to grow if you have the height in your room for it, it expresses good hybrid vigour, finding a keeper should be easy.

As a warning esb used to throw the odd hermy and are trigger happy when it comes to stress, I’ve not had any reports of hermies with oldtimes from test growers.

I think these will suit someone looking for an old school sativa dominant indica hybrid for their collection.

Available online at UGORG.COM

very noiice plants (am i now in the giveaway mr m ?)

is oldtimes a cross of ESB or ES its so confusing

You again! Fucked if I don't log on every time to find you weedling away at the UGORG crew over some fuckin minor detail of breeding or whatever. You need to get over yourself chappie, and pull that wedgie out yer bum-crack.
Funny thing is, I don't seem to see many folks jumping up to agree with you, but I don't come on this site much so maybe I missed it - but I haven't missed the pile of folks who are having a great time with all these different gears UGORG are putting out.

Think I'll be getting myself some of these beans. Like everyone else (excepting old Wedgie-pants) I am having bloody good results with the other UGORG gear, so I guess this stuff's going to be just as good if not better.

Fucking 'ave it, arjan and all you dutch and euro seed people. The Brits are coming, and about bloody time, too! Nice one, UGORG!

i just like to know the trueth about its make up that's all whats wrong with knowing the trueth ?
who's sock puppet are you then ? you will earn a few brownie points for that post
i personal dont like been told i am full of bullshit or that i am a clown and getting posts deleted for fuck all maybe whats pissed me off and in one threads its ES and another its ESB so who's full of bullshit ?
just because TEAMUGORG has not seen any threads on it going Hermie dont say there are no threads
i think you will find i not the one full of bullshit
now go get some more brownie points
and your wrong about me slagging teamUGORG it started because i said in a thread that it was a bit Hermie prone which it is and teamUGORG got a little upset about it and started getting stroppy with me
i think you will find there has been a lot of confusion to there make up to there strains which only starts shitfests
maybe a better approach at explaining things would avoid it in the future

Gear is a name for heroin smartass....

I've always wondered why people don't provide details of the genetic make up too. Still don't know why really. Got an incling it's something to do with protection of some kind. Simply don't know for sure though. Still wondering now. Anyone know why?

most breeders dont mind ya knowing whats in there genes
but if ya start changing the names of the plants involved it causes doubt and shitfest about the strain in question

FFS! You again?
Im sorry but its wearing a bit thin now!
Do you want things spelling out in capital letters? Are you really that thick?



It is the new version of ESB!

Just for the slow ones at the back OLDTIMES = ES X BLUEBERRY can you read that alright?

I dont know how many times ive read that on here!
Why does it matter to you so much anyway? You are never likely to grow either parent as their Ot's personal stock, he could call it pink banana x blue orange.. and what difference would it make? It would still be oldtimes! Ot was working with these plants before the dutch seedbanks were born!!!



Your just bleeting on about the same old same old shit and its getting boring now.

The only thing that starts shitfests for us is you! or your buddy RAZ.

Cant you just give it a rest????
Or can we atleast please get this sorted out today because im sick of coming on here only to wade through your shit.

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well thank you very much it sure has cleared it up
it nice to make things clear for us slow ones
and this has nowt to do with raz
all sorted with me now

oooooo another shitfest, wait while i roll a fatty & make a brew will ya....................

Maybe its regional? Coz round here, its not unknown for peeps to use "gear" to speak about their pot. Was more common a while ago. Or maybe its an age thing? Anyhoo, seems a bit fast to label a poster a "smartass" just because your jargon differs from their's? Am I a "smartass" too, because I've used it often enough?
Oh no! I've fallen foul of the jargon police

ya to late healthy

What your leaving Smile out?

ya can clean this thread up now delete em all apart from the original post
like i said its not about slagging ugorg or there strains
just some peeps like me get confused about there make up and it causes doubt i sure i not the only one

Fair enough, you wont be penalized but gears another word for junk round my way

I think I just fainted!



The thing I dont understand is why you hold Ot1 and VRG in such a dim light?
What has given you the impression that either of them would lie to you? or are anything but true to their word?
Why do you feel the need to question their work? Is it just because their both moderators here? You think they will receive special treatment?

From where im sat its all a bit sad.

I take it i'm getting a slagging somewhere hahahahaha

dont think you been reading me right
i have a lot of respect for OT1 the guy sure knows his stuff
i dont think they are liars ether
its just not made clear enough about whats in the the make up of the strains which causes doubt to what they are i not the only one who thinks this
i not slagging the strains ether i am just been honest about em in my opinion i never said they are shit strains or smoke i quiet like killer skunk and when i grow the others i bet i like em too
all i was questioning was what was the make up of em cause i was a bit confused to what it was like i said
and its nowt to do with em been mods ether

think it best to delete all this crap but the original post just my opinion

I'm not slow man. I'm not interesting in arguing either. I've never once read that oldtimes is ESB. I've read that original first quote many times though. Bred from esb, not esb. Am I missing something here?

It doesn't make one bit of difference to me. Oldtimes is responsible for the best buds I've grown. So nice one.

like i said very confusing i off out this thread now had enough

Because its not ESB!
It was bred from ESB as in ESB was the starting point, all those years ago.
It is ES x Blueberry, the same ES clone and a different Blueberry male!!!

I dont think I can possibly make it any more crystal clear than that?

Ot wrote that description quite sometime ago and he pressumed it would be enough, obviously not.

I hate the fact I even have to try and explain these things, they are what they are. Every single person that has grown Oldtimes (every thread I have read on here the last few days) has said its the best bud they have ever grown. Yet im having to deal with people nit picking over the tiniest details in its description. Would you rather we put something like Double Dog Diesel IBL x Filthy Duck Kush BX1 and be done with it? Give me strength, honesty and integrity is what you crave yet we are one of the very few companies that hold those values true!



Dont you go running off again, I want this sorted out!
You say you dont want a shitfest, no, you just like to start them and run away!

Now do you have anymore issues with me? our company? or our strains? If you do please get it off your chest!

Uhhh do you have more chance of winning the free seeds if you post more in this thread?

its been sorted
and i dont start shit fests
its not my fault some peeps dont like my opinion and call me a bullshitter or a clown
just a better description on ya strains would stop a lot of questioning in the future
like i said its not just me that's been confused

I wasn't nitpicking. I'm just interested is all. No worries though. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

please count me in too Mr M

I think it would be cool if you put the info like you've done with SB and KS....................
Then this kind of thing would be eliminated...............

Gear has been a slang word for pot round here for at least 20 years round this way too!

Seeing as the genetic makeup is being clarified, could you tell us the origins of ES? I think I read that it's derived from a very potent African landrace (Congo, or Nigerian), but would like to know for sure.

My experience with Oldtimes is that it is the best strain I have grown. My American partner reckons it reminds her of the seriously good weed she used to get in the States back in the day. She won't smoke anything else now, though I think that may change when my Killers are done!

I have two OT phenos. One finishes in 8 weeks, the other in 9. The 8 weeker threw a few Nanas on my first run with her when the lights got left on for 36 hours, about three weeks into flower. The plant that threw the Nanas was also at the front of the tent and probably also suffered extra light leaks due to aforementioned American partner being unable to understand the simple phrase "Don't open the fuckin tent when the lights are off!

Anyhoo, I was tempted to retain the 9 weeker as my mother and discard the 8 weeker who threw the few Nanas, but she's too good a smoke and an 8 weeker is always handy, so I've run her a couple more times in a less stressful environment, and no Nanas since.

I also grew out a few of the resultant seeds from the first run when she pollinated herself (a selfed Oldtimes, if you will). Two of these are now about three weeks into flower and no sign of any Nanas, which leads me to conclude that, as OT said, there is a slight Hermie trait there, but it needs to be heavily stressed to bring it out. I'm still keeping both mothers. The nine weeker yields better.

As a side note, I now have a slight conundrum. I planted one of the "femmed/selfed" seed plants in the back garden to see how she took. Kinda forgot about her. Even if I induce flowering now, I reckon she'll hit over 6 foot and will reek. Can't bring her back indoors - too many beasties. Not too keen on throwing a black bag over her. Might try and find a good guerilla spot and plant her out. No way I'm cutting her down though. She's a thing of beauty.

Brae

Ah Ha I may be able to help with this one...




from here

Thanks for that. So Oldtimes is effectively, Blueberry x Skunk No.1/Nigerian (albeit with superior Skunk and Blueberry genetics - not today's eurotrash).

The description of ESB in your Cannabase source also tallies with my experience.



It was the early finisher that went slightly hermy on me when stressed. Although this ESB pheno is only rated at 5.5/10 above, I'd put the Oldtimes equivalent at an 8/10, with the nine weeker 9/10. (I have yet to smoke anything better).

BTW, I hope all this talk of hermies doesn't put anyone off. If anything, I hope it shows how minuscule the issue is. It would appear to be limited to one pheno and only manifests itself under extreme stress. I have this pheno and have decided to keep it. IMO, if Oldtimes goes hermy on you - you have a lot more serious environmental issues that need addressing.

Great posts Brae, most helpful. I'm hoping to get into the Oldtimes when I expand my flowering 'drobe. Got some fresh impetus now, you've set my mind going ....

Mornin Arn. Have you not cracked some Oldtimes yet? I remember in a thread a while back you were saying you were going to start some and were a bit worried about stretch etc. I was worried about that too, as I usual have a number of strains on the go. Turned out not to be a big issue. I vegged them on 20/4 (seems to keep height down slightly compared to 18/6) for anything up to 6 weeks. Topped them and pinched out the main stems a couple of times. They invariably end up around the periphery of the tent as they still stretch that bit more than anything else I have, but one of the first things that impressed me so much about them is that despite living in the corners and edges of the tent, they yielded fantastically.

Get them cracked Arn, it's bloody fantastic.

No, not yet Brae. I still need to get the new flowering area sorted, and then I need to lay my hands on the seeds. At the moment I wouldn't have the space for them, but its all in hand and progress is being made etc etc
Mrs L is hinting at a trip down to the smoke, so the savings need careful management to say the least
But the grow-budget is in a reasonable state, I just need to get it all put together; but being a stoner of ageing proportions and crumbling anatomy that is a slow and gentle process

Oldtimes......

Day 52 - she'll probably go 65 before she's ready. She's a proper girl

Nice One Bish!

I want one!

Looks like ArmegeddonClick to view attachment

Nice bish...

Sorry to add yet more shit to this thread but what does ES stand for?

WOW!! thats one stonking plant Bish!!!! nice, think these might be on my wish list

It was just the particular cross line test plant numbers IIRC ExS something like (KenyanxNigerian) x old school Californian SK#1 - I may be wrong with all this mind, the man himself knows best, it's just what I remember from all the conversations on the boards

I think you need to get her over to the sick plants forum....Quick!!

Top growing bishy boy! Have you got any new pics?

No new pics me ole fruit, chopped at 63 days

get jellyoos looking at them single cola monsters bish,tiptop

Thats what I was wondering all the way through the thread

Great looking plants, im definately going to have to try these out asap!

Very nice Bish, what size pot was she in?

Good thread

6.5l as per usual

Heres a little snippit of info that may be best placed in this thread...



from here