Plan is to grow the Parvati outdoors and see what it will do in the Dutch humid weather type.
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The grow season 2009 has started and a good friend of mine had send me 4 seeds of Parvati.3 of them sprouted along with some other varieties like the Purple Peace, a hybrid of Kullu Manali x Viking.
Plan is to grow the Parvati outdoors and see what it will do in the Dutch humid weather type.
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Plan is to grow the Parvati outdoors and see what it will do in the Dutch humid weather type.
Namaste
very nice....i will be keeping an eye on this one for sure
They look nice and sturdy, I think they will do well in the Dutch weather elmanito
@Hughie Green - They are doing just fine thnx
Little update
I transplant 3 Parvati's to some bigger containers.One of the Parvati's is showing leaves with 5 leaflets already.Most of the time the second pair of leaves are just 3 leaflets, but this one shows already 5 leaflets.If everything goes well the plan will be to make a hybrid with one of the Ghanaian sativa's i have.
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Little update
I transplant 3 Parvati's to some bigger containers.One of the Parvati's is showing leaves with 5 leaflets already.Most of the time the second pair of leaves are just 3 leaflets, but this one shows already 5 leaflets.If everything goes well the plan will be to make a hybrid with one of the Ghanaian sativa's i have.
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Photo update
The small one (bigger one of the 4 ) on this pic is the Parvati and he/she is growing fast.The bigger one behind is one of the Ghanianan sativa's i have and they are doing just fine with the high temperatures from the last few days.
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The small one (bigger one of the 4 ) on this pic is the Parvati and he/she is growing fast.The bigger one behind is one of the Ghanianan sativa's i have and they are doing just fine with the high temperatures from the last few days.
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nice one fella .. i loved the parvati valley .. good luck ..
Lookin good there elmanito, fine and healthy, lets hope the good weather stays
nice one elmanito
my money is on it being a hot one this year - and if I'm right they should be pumping out the resins
Parvati x Ghanaian sounds like a fascinating cross
I've never (knowingly) smoked Ghanaina ganja, but I reckon your hybrid should have a very positive and uplifting vibe
my money is on it being a hot one this year - and if I'm right they should be pumping out the resins
Parvati x Ghanaian sounds like a fascinating cross
I've never (knowingly) smoked Ghanaina ganja, but I reckon your hybrid should have a very positive and uplifting vibe
I smoked Ghanianan ganja in the mid-nineties, bougth at a shop which had also varieties from Indonesia, Philippines,Jamaica & Thailand.Not available anymore 
The temperatures are going up and down like a wave with a max of 49 C with a humidity of 15% and a min of 9 C with a humidity of 80% in the greenhouse. The Parvati and the Ghanianan have better resistance against these extremes than some of the Danish varieties i have noticed.I hope i will have a Parvati strain with a high CBD content.
What i read about the Ghanianan sativa's is that they have besides a high THC also a high THCV content which seems to decrease the munchies caused by THC, according to Robert Connell Clarke in his book Hashisch.
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The temperatures are going up and down like a wave with a max of 49 C with a humidity of 15% and a min of 9 C with a humidity of 80% in the greenhouse. The Parvati and the Ghanianan have better resistance against these extremes than some of the Danish varieties i have noticed.I hope i will have a Parvati strain with a high CBD content.
What i read about the Ghanianan sativa's is that they have besides a high THC also a high THCV content which seems to decrease the munchies caused by THC, according to Robert Connell Clarke in his book Hashisch.
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sounds like my kind of shop!
I noticed I never got the munchies smoking Afropips' Malawi hybrids, which were also likely to have THCV
looking forward to the updates - all best
I noticed I never got the munchies smoking Afropips' Malawi hybrids, which were also likely to have THCV
looking forward to the updates - all best
The shop was the only one i found at that time with a big collection of several landrace varieties.
Little photo update.Everything is going well.Most of the plants in the greenhouse have to do with the extreme temperatures & humidity
The Parvati seems to like the temperatures.3 plants of 4 are transplanted in bigger containers, but no pre flowering are shown yet.
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Little photo update.Everything is going well.Most of the plants in the greenhouse have to do with the extreme temperatures & humidity
The Parvati seems to like the temperatures.3 plants of 4 are transplanted in bigger containers, but no pre flowering are shown yet.
Namaste
hey - yeh, I think that the Parvati will enjoy those conditions a lot while they are in veg stage --- in March and April the Himalaya will be in full bright sun and dry --- by the end of April and during most of May it will be hot and intensely bright, then during monsoon from mid May to September it will get humid and hot, sometimes very cloudy, sometimes intense sun, and a hell of a lot of rain...
the humidity will not be a problem for them until after mid flowering I think --- monsoon can last past equinox in a late monsoon, when most Himalayan lines will already be well into flowering - esp. jungli plants, but also farm plants
these are some of the reasons why I think Himalayan lines have potential in amongst the genepool for acclimatisation to European conditions, because although it is not ideal for them to be damp during flowering, Himalayan lines can endure late monoons lasting sometimes past the end of September
of course, in the Himalaya it will not usually be a good season for charas if monsoon lasts too long --- however, last year was an exception to the rule, because monsoon did last late, but then from early Oct to mid Nov was incredibly bright and hot, so the plants were pumping out resin - Kumaon did not have a great season, but further south and east in Nepal saw some great charas being produced
the humidity will not be a problem for them until after mid flowering I think --- monsoon can last past equinox in a late monsoon, when most Himalayan lines will already be well into flowering - esp. jungli plants, but also farm plants
these are some of the reasons why I think Himalayan lines have potential in amongst the genepool for acclimatisation to European conditions, because although it is not ideal for them to be damp during flowering, Himalayan lines can endure late monoons lasting sometimes past the end of September
of course, in the Himalaya it will not usually be a good season for charas if monsoon lasts too long --- however, last year was an exception to the rule, because monsoon did last late, but then from early Oct to mid Nov was incredibly bright and hot, so the plants were pumping out resin - Kumaon did not have a great season, but further south and east in Nepal saw some great charas being produced
Looks great elmanito
They are loving it
@Matsi
They really love the temp. in the greenhouse
At this moment everything is going just fine with the Parvati's.One of the Parvati's showed little pre flowering, but the plant was a male.I've got more than enough males of several varieties.
On this photo you can see the difference between the Parvati (right, one of the little ones of the Parvati) and a Nepal (left) from the Pokhara region.I received some seeds and only this one came up, but the plant grows nice and steady.
If the other Parvati's also turn out to be males, than i use one of the them to pollinate this Brazilian female which is growing outside.This variety seems also to have a high content of CBD.
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They really love the temp. in the greenhouse
At this moment everything is going just fine with the Parvati's.One of the Parvati's showed little pre flowering, but the plant was a male.I've got more than enough males of several varieties.
On this photo you can see the difference between the Parvati (right, one of the little ones of the Parvati) and a Nepal (left) from the Pokhara region.I received some seeds and only this one came up, but the plant grows nice and steady.
If the other Parvati's also turn out to be males, than i use one of the them to pollinate this Brazilian female which is growing outside.This variety seems also to have a high content of CBD.
Namaste
On the first photo the Parvati is on the left instead on the right!!!! 
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New photo update of the Parvati
This is the biggest i have on this moment.Plan is to plant this one this evening in the garden to let him grow in full height
Love Cannabis trees
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This is the biggest i have on this moment.Plan is to plant this one this evening in the garden to let him grow in full height
Love Cannabis trees
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The biggest Parvati (male) is planted outside in the garden to pollinate the Jamaican Pearl.In the greenhouse i've got 2 pheno's of Parvati with different fragrance.One smells like oranges and the other smells like sweet carrots.
Parvati is not the only landrace in the garden.Here is a pic from a Brazilian strain
Indica strain from Yunnan (not Aceseeds)
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Parvati is not the only landrace in the garden.Here is a pic from a Brazilian strain
Indica strain from Yunnan (not Aceseeds)
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lovely stuff Elmanito
orange and carrot sound very much like the kind of aromas I would expect from the Parvati
orange and carrot sound very much like the kind of aromas I would expect from the Parvati
awesome looking plants there elmanito
my money is on those Brazilian "indicas" having Lebanese ancestory
there are loads of Lebanese in Brazil... they say a lot of Lebanese hashish ends up there... certainly Brazilian ports are famously corrupt
there are loads of Lebanese in Brazil... they say a lot of Lebanese hashish ends up there... certainly Brazilian ports are famously corrupt
We´re back again. I had some problems with my internet connection.
I have no knowledge about Lebanese strains in Brazil.I asked a friend who is a member of the Santo Daime Church what sort of strain they use sativa dominant or indica dominant, but they have no knowledge what an indica or sativa is.I will ask next time if they want to make a pic of the buds.
In the garden is everything OK.The Parvati male is growing like hell with the hot humid weather.
Another one in a container is a female which finds it also very nice outside
Some others i still have in the greenhouse in bigger containers for new seeds.Specially the male with the orange scent i want to collect the pollen.I have also a Greek sativa landrace which seems to have genetics from Thailand and Lebanon.It would be interesting to make a hybrid also with the Parvati.
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I had some problems with my internet connection.I have no knowledge about Lebanese strains in Brazil.I asked a friend who is a member of the Santo Daime Church what sort of strain they use sativa dominant or indica dominant, but they have no knowledge what an indica or sativa is.I will ask next time if they want to make a pic of the buds.
In the garden is everything OK.The Parvati male is growing like hell with the hot humid weather.
Another one in a container is a female which finds it also very nice outside
Some others i still have in the greenhouse in bigger containers for new seeds.Specially the male with the orange scent i want to collect the pollen.I have also a Greek sativa landrace which seems to have genetics from Thailand and Lebanon.It would be interesting to make a hybrid also with the Parvati.
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Hello holy weed mates!
Elmanito,it seems you are a real landrace lover,and also you are doing great work with all those different genetics.
Does your greek strain is the kalamata?
Good vibes!
Elmanito,it seems you are a real landrace lover,and also you are doing great work with all those different genetics.
Does your greek strain is the kalamata?
Good vibes!
The Greek sativa is from Crete, not from Kalamata.What i read about the Kalamata that it has genetics from Colombia.
The strain from Crete is actually a Highland Thai x Red Lebanon, both landraces.You have some pheno´s which are Lebanon dominant and pheno´s which are Highland Thai dominant.
Few of the strains i have are landraces like the one from Brazil, Yunnan, Ukrainian, Lebanon strain from Denmark and Oldfarmer Nepal, Nepal strain from Pokhara region and some hybrids with landraces like Highland Oaxacan x Viking, Purple Peace (Kullu Manali x Viking), Jamaican Pearl.
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The strain from Crete is actually a Highland Thai x Red Lebanon, both landraces.You have some pheno´s which are Lebanon dominant and pheno´s which are Highland Thai dominant.
Few of the strains i have are landraces like the one from Brazil, Yunnan, Ukrainian, Lebanon strain from Denmark and Oldfarmer Nepal, Nepal strain from Pokhara region and some hybrids with landraces like Highland Oaxacan x Viking, Purple Peace (Kullu Manali x Viking), Jamaican Pearl.
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nice,this topic has taken me round the world:)
Exelent looking plants and pics elmanito.....cant wait to see how the turn out
Thnx bro.
I´m also very curious what we can expect with these varieties and when they will start to flower.Untill now no difficulties with the hard windy weather.Parvati seems to be very flexible.I´ve noticed that the stem is hollow like fibre hemp.
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I´m also very curious what we can expect with these varieties and when they will start to flower.Untill now no difficulties with the hard windy weather.Parvati seems to be very flexible.I´ve noticed that the stem is hollow like fibre hemp.
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Some new pics taken yesterday
Parvati in scrog
Parvati fem outside loves the humid warm weather.
This counts also for the Ghanianan sativa
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Parvati in scrog
Parvati fem outside loves the humid warm weather.
This counts also for the Ghanianan sativa
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lovely line up
they all look very very happy in your hands
did I mention the Lebanese - Brazil connection earlier? my money is on Brazilian indicas - e.g. the one in your earlier pics - being from seed brought to Brazil by Lebanese... there is a very big Lebanese population in Brazil --- most Lebanese people live outside their homeland, and Brazil is one of the main places for them to move to
Mriko once suggested that these type of Brazilian indicas might have arrived with Pashtuns, who also have communities in Brazil, but on a much smaller scale... i think that is a less likely explanation
about Santo Daime - I asked a guy who was the main organiser of one of the Santo Diame branches in the UK at one time: is the Santa Maria you use in your ceremonies a particular strain? and he said "no" --- it is just the name used by Santo Daime for any type of cannabis... of course, it may still be possible that particular branches of Santo Daime do, or may have had, particular strains of ganja which they have cultivated for use in their centre's ceremonies
re. the Parvati: it is great that that male has a strong orangey aroma- flavour, resin production, and possible med potential are all exciting possibilities there... and also the potential for finding lines which will adapt well to Northern latitudes
interestingly this Parvati comes from a farm only a few miles away from Malana village "as the crow flies" - although it is in Parvati valley, rather than the Malana side valley... but still, the distances separating the two cultivars are very small: and yet the seeds look very different, the plants look and smell different, and the charas is very different
Namkha
they all look very very happy in your hands
did I mention the Lebanese - Brazil connection earlier? my money is on Brazilian indicas - e.g. the one in your earlier pics - being from seed brought to Brazil by Lebanese... there is a very big Lebanese population in Brazil --- most Lebanese people live outside their homeland, and Brazil is one of the main places for them to move to
Mriko once suggested that these type of Brazilian indicas might have arrived with Pashtuns, who also have communities in Brazil, but on a much smaller scale... i think that is a less likely explanation
about Santo Daime - I asked a guy who was the main organiser of one of the Santo Diame branches in the UK at one time: is the Santa Maria you use in your ceremonies a particular strain? and he said "no" --- it is just the name used by Santo Daime for any type of cannabis... of course, it may still be possible that particular branches of Santo Daime do, or may have had, particular strains of ganja which they have cultivated for use in their centre's ceremonies
re. the Parvati: it is great that that male has a strong orangey aroma- flavour, resin production, and possible med potential are all exciting possibilities there... and also the potential for finding lines which will adapt well to Northern latitudes
interestingly this Parvati comes from a farm only a few miles away from Malana village "as the crow flies" - although it is in Parvati valley, rather than the Malana side valley... but still, the distances separating the two cultivars are very small: and yet the seeds look very different, the plants look and smell different, and the charas is very different
Namkha
Great info Namkha, only i wonder how the plants survived during flowering in a humid climate like the Amazon where you have rain all the time.I noticed that most plants from Afghanistan have difficulties with mould during flowering here in the Netherlands, so thats one of the reasons i grow most of the time "sativa's" .
The Parvati has almost reached a height of 1.80 m (6 feet) and it is still growing.It seems to like the weather very much.
This is a North Indian strain which grew in 1982 in the Netherlands.The story goes that English hippies brought back ganja & charas from India and threw the seeds out of the window everytime they rolled a joint.So in the spring several seeds sprouted and boom new plant vegetation never seen before in the Netherlands
A close-up from a cola
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The Parvati has almost reached a height of 1.80 m (6 feet) and it is still growing.It seems to like the weather very much.
This is a North Indian strain which grew in 1982 in the Netherlands.The story goes that English hippies brought back ganja & charas from India and threw the seeds out of the window everytime they rolled a joint.So in the spring several seeds sprouted and boom new plant vegetation never seen before in the Netherlands
A close-up from a cola
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This Nepali strain from the Pokhara has a nice fragrance of Nepali hash.It grows slower than the Parvati but will probably start to flower begin of August.This counts also for the Parvati strain which has now reached a height of 1.80 m ( 6 feet)
Nepali
Parvati
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Nepali
Parvati
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pretty ladies Elmanito 
great thread
how are the aromas of the Parvati female?
great thread
how are the aromas of the Parvati female?
The Parvati female has a fragrance of sweet carrots, while the big Parvati male has more a strong spicy, hash fragrance.Sometimes it reminds me of skunk.Some of the Yunnan pheno's i had last year had this fragrance also.
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The Parvati in the greenhouse has a fragrance from sweet carrots to oranges.Thnx Namkha for the Mazar-i-Shariff & Lebanese seeds.Smoked yesterday delicious Afghani hashish with import Super Thai. 
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Some new photo update of the plants outside
Parvati fem
Parvati male (almost 7 feet / 2.10 m) i finally found my christmas tree
Nepali Pokhara the structure of the plant is similar with that of the male Parvati
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Parvati fem
Parvati male (almost 7 feet / 2.10 m) i finally found my christmas tree
Nepali Pokhara the structure of the plant is similar with that of the male Parvati
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beautiful 
@Namkha
Thnx for the compliment.
Do you anything about the flowering time of the Parvati????
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Thnx for the compliment.
Do you anything about the flowering time of the Parvati????
Namaste
well, I think that will be partly a question of taste and weather --- eg some Spanish growers harvested the Mazar-i-Sharif in mid October, some French growers cut it in the second week of November
the particular Parvati strain RSC has is grown pretty high - 3000m - 3500m
Parvati is at 32 degrees North
should be ready mid to late October I guess
Parvati is closer to Afghanistan than Nepal in terms of latitude - so plants finish reasonably quick --- as with the Malana, a time should come during flowering when they really start to go crazy with the resin production
All Best,
Namkha
the particular Parvati strain RSC has is grown pretty high - 3000m - 3500m
Parvati is at 32 degrees North
should be ready mid to late October I guess
Parvati is closer to Afghanistan than Nepal in terms of latitude - so plants finish reasonably quick --- as with the Malana, a time should come during flowering when they really start to go crazy with the resin production
All Best,
Namkha
I think like the Kullu Manali that the Parvati will not finish very late like the Mazar-i-Sharif.The internodes are growing a-symmteric and this is a preflowering stage.The Nepal strain from Pokhara grow in the same way as the Parvati so this will something promising.
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Its time for a new photo update.Its still great growing weather for the Parvati and they are growing like hell. 
Parvati in the greenhouse
Big Parvati, its taller than me.Growing spirit is huge
Parvati in the container
In another thread there is a big discussion about if you should give nutes to the strains from RSC.I'm giving both Parvati plants outside every time i'm watering them a solution of sugar beet molasses with NPK 3-2-9 + natural minerals Ca, Mg, Cu, Fe.The one in the container began to have a shortage of Calcium and the big one began to have a shortage of Potassium, thats why the sugar beet molasses (great stuff).I grow organic and have totally no problem with giving them organic nutes.They like it.
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Parvati in the greenhouse
Big Parvati, its taller than me.Growing spirit is huge
Parvati in the container
In another thread there is a big discussion about if you should give nutes to the strains from RSC.I'm giving both Parvati plants outside every time i'm watering them a solution of sugar beet molasses with NPK 3-2-9 + natural minerals Ca, Mg, Cu, Fe.The one in the container began to have a shortage of Calcium and the big one began to have a shortage of Potassium, thats why the sugar beet molasses (great stuff).I grow organic and have totally no problem with giving them organic nutes.They like it.
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Hiya El manito!
So lovely plants you got there
Have you a link to this thread, please?
I'm highly interested by this subject,particularly to know what people think about giving hydro additives (like ata bud xl and bcuzz bloom stimulator) to this kind of plant and to equatorial/tropical landrace.
Personally,i'm afraid about adverse effects,but some people tell me i'm paranoid without giving me proofs there is none.So i'm looking for landracers opinions.
Peace
So lovely plants you got there
QUOTE
In another thread there is a big discussion about if you should give nutes to the strains from RSC.I'm giving both Parvati plants outside every time i'm watering them a solution of sugar beet molasses with NPK 3-2-9 + natural minerals Ca, Mg, Cu, Fe.The one in the container began to have a shortage of Calcium and the big one began to have a shortage of Potassium, thats why the sugar beet molasses (great stuff).I grow organic and have totally no problem with giving them organic nutes.They like it.
Have you a link to this thread, please?
I'm highly interested by this subject,particularly to know what people think about giving hydro additives (like ata bud xl and bcuzz bloom stimulator) to this kind of plant and to equatorial/tropical landrace.
Personally,i'm afraid about adverse effects,but some people tell me i'm paranoid without giving me proofs there is none.So i'm looking for landracers opinions.
Peace
wow looking great, bring on the flowering!
Well Namkha you have to be patient for the plants outside.My male in the greenhouse starts to show some balls, so i think we dont have to wait too long.
I ordered not so long ago the 300 seeds packets of several Nepal strains.I hope i can find trees like thisone in my garden
@pantagruelion
this is the thread i meant if you've not already found it
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I ordered not so long ago the 300 seeds packets of several Nepal strains.I hope i can find trees like thisone in my garden
@pantagruelion
this is the thread i meant if you've not already found it
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looks very Himachali --- is that the Viking Kullu hybrid?
the Jungli Three Pack you got has Kullu, Kumaon, and Lantang jungli genetics... Kumaon next to West Nepal, was once part of it... Langtang is central Nepal...
it's jungli, with low germ rates, so the idea is you should get 10+ plants per pack
will be interesting to see how quickly the Parvati finishes --- I'm expecting it to be the earliest of the cultivated Himalayan lines
the Jungli Three Pack you got has Kullu, Kumaon, and Lantang jungli genetics... Kumaon next to West Nepal, was once part of it... Langtang is central Nepal...
it's jungli, with low germ rates, so the idea is you should get 10+ plants per pack
will be interesting to see how quickly the Parvati finishes --- I'm expecting it to be the earliest of the cultivated Himalayan lines
No, thats the Oldfarmer Nepal.This is the Kullu Manali x Viking hybrid
Do you know anything about Cannabis strains on Borneo.I read in an article that the US government took plants from Borneo to Colombia in the 1930s to develop a medicinal strain??
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Do you know anything about Cannabis strains on Borneo.I read in an article that the US government took plants from Borneo to Colombia in the 1930s to develop a medicinal strain??
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Here we are again for a new update.The plants finally started to flower, the female as well.The plants outside they all survived the big storm, even the big one has no broken branches.They are really though Some pics
The big one is about 3 m (10 feet) and it is still growing.
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Some pics The big one is about 3 m (10 feet) and it is still growing.
Namaste
You have a beautiful garden and those plants look fantastic!
QUOTE (Ruderalisman @ Sep 10 2009, 10:23 PM) 
You have a beautiful garden and those plants look fantastic!
Thnx bro
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A new pic of the Parvati male inside.This male is also appr. 3 m (10 feet)
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Still a nice Indian Summer outside with temperatures of 22 C.Parvati male outside is in full flower.It pollinates my Yunnani indica.
The female has also started to flower, which is quite early, while the female inside the greenhouse has just begun.
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The female has also started to flower, which is quite early, while the female inside the greenhouse has just begun.
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New update of the female Parvati inside the greenhouse
Harvested seeds last week of the Purple Peace (Kullu Manali x Viking) strain.This strain gives a nice scissorhash, so my reccommendation is to use the Malana strain to make a good hybrid to get this.
Namaste
Harvested seeds last week of the Purple Peace (Kullu Manali x Viking) strain.This strain gives a nice scissorhash, so my reccommendation is to use the Malana strain to make a good hybrid to get this.
Namaste
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