Hey guys. Been reading lots of great info on here, good stuff! Firstly, best of luck with the weather and stealth to everyone on here! Right, on with it. I have been setting stuff up for my first ever grow, I've got 10 x Bahia Blackhead seeds in a cheap plastic propagator along with 30 other random bag seeds. Mostly from some bushy weed that I know was grown outdoors in Morrocco. Also random others from friends that have grown including whitewidow & bubblegum.

First site is all ready to go, 5 holes dug filled with lovely compost and fish, blood and bone. Also 5 lovely little chicken wire cages for the Bahian beauties. The other 5 Bahias are going to another site which is as of yet unprepared but will be V soon....

The first site is huge odds are the other 30 randomers will be put into the ground there too maybe with a bag of compost and some fertiliser and a small fence, but I will pretty much leave them to themselves, my friend said most of his attempts bailed as soon as they got outside. But hey they are free and this is just an experiment...

I've also constructed a small polytunnel/box to start them off in whilst they are in the propagator from some plastic i found, and also some huge glass panes. I started them off inside and all 10 Bahias germd perfectly between paper as did most of the other seeds (started off with 34 or something). Unfortunately due to time constraints (parents) I had to move the propogator to the grow site before they had popped out of the soil, I only germed them 2 days ago. So I have just got back from the site and the babies are hopefully nice and warm and protected from all the slugs and rabbits! In the little poly tunnell I put some bubblewrap on the ground underneath the propogator to give it a little extra helping hand aswell as slug pellets (just in case they are slimy bastards after all). I'm gonna go and check Tuesday to see how they are doing hopefully I will be able to see a few little buds poking out of the soil!

OK So I guess this is the start of my grow diary. Please give me some advice if you can! Time to skin up and then have a bath....

Peace

~Satta

Thought i'd add that I am doing everything on a budget this year, so far everything including tools and seeds has come to less than £30 get in there!

sounds like your the man with a plan!
have a look for copper/slug tape if you can get it. really cheap and stops slugs better then slug pellets do. still using a few mind just not anywhere near the plants. make sure you have protection from rabbits the bastards will be only to happy to eat your grow. im also growing this year got quite a few strains so should be good, click mi sig if you wanna see my herb plants. goodluck dude

Hey mate, yea I did have a little look at some, think I will probably get some for the next stage, when I'm gonna put the Bahians in bigger pots in the Poly Tunnel before taking off the poly so they would just have the glass at the sides. I need to post some photos haha.

It just seemed pretty expensive like £7 or something do you reckon it's worth it then?

~Satta

hey man i feel your pain with the time constraints... good luck with your grow

hey buddy grew bahia blackhead last year some gd results only growing one bahia bean this year hoping for a girl
best of luck

Will be nice to see how your Bahia Blackhead's do buddy. I'm doing KC33 & Original Mango from the KC range so keep an eye on my thread too

Cool yea I definately will!

Shafty how much did you get off your plants? Any targets would be great!

~Satta

think got just under ounce didnt really take care of them to well was m y first grow so was more of an experiment
lovely smoke though kc range get alot of flak found the plant very hardy (over watering bugs etc)
got some mango and a bb vegging with sum bagseed and thai skunk should be a good year

Nice one shafty was that off one plant?

I went down today to check on them and four of the Bahia are poking up above the soil, they popped fastest and had an extra day in the house.

One or two of the bag seed are going too!

Lovely and warm in that propagator! Only thing I was a little worried about was that on the sites with the compost there was what looked a bit like mould growing on the surface. I'm hoping it's just something to do with all the bloody rain we've been having over the last few days because the compost has been there a week or so but this mould stuff seemed to crop up within a couple of days of rainfall....

Hopefully it'll all dry out a bit soon!

~Satta

I'm really worried! I went down today, hadn't seen them since wednesday. And they had used up all the water, I really underestimated it! All the roots had grown out of the bottom of the propagation tray so obviously needed to be potted on.

This is a real wake up call for me! I am confident some of them will pull through but I think it may be to late for some

Will post some pics soon....

~Satta

I can't work out how to upload photos :s ooops

It says max upload 350k and my photos are 2.something MB or more. Guess I gotta resize them eh?

~Satta

Here's some pics of the site. Including the rather primative growhouse I constructed

Closer up

I think it may be too late for these guys

Still got hope for these ones!

And a shot of everything back in the growhouse. The ones with black rims are the Bahias, the 3 at the back at the random bag seed and the propagator still has 1 Bahia that hasn't popped and lots of other random ones...

So fingers crossed that it's not too late....I'm just gonna go down and see 'em now.

Peace

~Satta

Hi guys just got back from the site. It's becoming more obvious which ones are gonna make it and which ones aren't. The poly-tunnel was REALLY REALLY hot in there, the soil in the prop was way too hot so I left the lid off that. I peeled back the poly off the top so it's now just 4 glass walls essentially. Hopefully it's not gonna be too hot anymore.

Watered them again with some babybio in not sure if that was a good idea or what not very concentrated mind only about 25 drops in 2 litres. Actually saying that not sure if taking the poly off was a good idea too. Fuck it maybe none of this was :s

Basically if there's one thing I've learnt it's that it is well hard to grow seedlings in a site that is a mile from your house and somewhere you can't visit every day....But I still have hope that at least 1 or 2 plants will pull through....please......

Has anyone ever had seedlings that look as fucked up as mine that managed to pull through?

~Satta

Im going through exactly the same mate! Is there plenty of light inside that plastic sheet? Im planting mine out in batches first i put out 2 and one died, then i put out three, ive got two more waiting to go out, and some not yet cracked as backup. I resisted visiting my seedlings today as I'll go tomorrow to plant, but reading this makes me think i should go check em, Its a worry innit. I wish you all the luck in the world dude. I f you wanna know owt just ask on here N i'll try and help allthough theres others more experienced than me

wake n Bake

Cheers wake n bake for the kind words!

I've been reading your thread, and you were a real inspiration to this grow! Sorry to read about your little girl that died....but hey lets hope for the best with your others. And I fully believe you will get the rewards because you put in so much work!

I guess we just have to try again when we don't live with parents

I'm still really hopefull I can get two plants out of this. They are very pale but I think I can revive them, or at least hope!

Peace

~Satta

I lived away from my rents for 4 years and never even thought of doing a grow Ive lived with them now for nearly 2 years and dont think of much else but growing Im working on moving out before harvest just gotta sort out my finances, what are your plans for drying and cureing?

WB

I've got a mate who's up for letting me do it at his house. What about you? That's if I get any of course!!

~Satta

Well I really hope to be in my own Gaff by then but ive been saying that for ages so if worst come to worst I'll hang it up in a tree and get it in my tent if the weathers bad. Probably cure it at my seedling plot as I can visit that everyday to "burp" it. Dont really want to involve a mate as no one at all knows im growing and thats the way I like it. Are you gonna get some more seeds it can just about be done if ya get your skates on.

WB

Not sure if I'm gonna be able to get some going in time, will have to see

~Satta

Guys went down today and I think they are most definately ALL gonners Well I have learnt something very important! It's fecking hard to germinate seeds a mile from your house! haha

Oh well if I come across any more free seeds will try and pop a few more but hey let's see what happens.....

All the best for all you growers

Signing out

~Satta

sorry to here that fella .. its not too late to try again tho ..

Yea I know but don't know if I can get any seeds in time :s or whether I want to risk it again as would have to germ them outside again? Oh well I will have to have a think!

~Satta

Fuck it guys. Got 10 KC 33's today gonna germ 'em a few at a time get 'em out there this week. This time going solo without my grow partner.

Wish me luck!

~Satta

Kc brains are supposed to grow massive buds n the seeds are well reasonably priced. You'll have to pull the males though of course. Get em craked man 5 now and 5 in a few days or something. Good luck dude.

WB

Put two seeds in the paper this morning, hoping i'm gonna be able to sow them tomorrow. Reason why it was only 2 is because I am camping on Saturday so didn't want to leave them for too long without my TLC.

Gonna buy some copper tape tomorrow too. Will crack 5 seeds Sunday hope to plant out Monday or Tuesday we shall have to see how it goes.

~Satta

Seeds can take well over 24hrs to germ but dont worry theyll be fine. Just put some seeds in moist seed compost and leave them for a few days. Did any of your first batch survive?

WB

good luck mate...well done for getting back on the bike

Thanks a lot guys! I'm glad I've bought 'em as I can do nothing else except sit on here reading other people diaries and I know I would do the exact same thing right up till October even if I didn't grow....literally the whole of half term I have spent most of my days on here!

The two seeds are looking fat but not popped yet, I'm gonna take 'em down tomo morning then they would have had 48hrs in the paper...

How deep should I put them in the compost? I can probably go back on Sunday afternoon/eve to check on them see if they are doing anything yet....

~Satta

e2a

I read that you should not touch the seeds with your hands....what's the problem? And should I try and use tweezers?

Thanks

I just drop my seedlings on top of some moist compost and then give them a light sprinkling over the top. You dont need to burry them. I've handeled my seeds and theyve been okay but using a knife or some tweezers is probably better.

WB

Cheers for the advice Wake....

Do you reckon I should put the seeds into that propagation tray with the lid on behind the glass but without the plastic sheet on? Or just put 'em straight into those pots with the (dead ) Bahia blackheads in? I found it a bit awkward trying to get the seedlings out of that prop without possibly causing damage to the roots. I am going to buy some copper tape from the garden centre that is handily within eyesight of the entrance to my plot oh yea!!! But don't worry it is still stealth... You would not want to walk through these stingers unless you wanted to come out with your whole body stung to fuckery or you knew what was in there beforehand....

Peace

~Satta

Im not sure what the glass is that your talking about but I would say just put your seeds in the propigator without the plastic sheet. When your seeds have there first set of leaves they wont have developed much root, so you can prick em out with a knife and plant them in individual pots. After that when your potting up be sure to water first-this makes the soil stick to the roots and you can transfer them into bgger pots. THen do the same into the ground.

WAKE

Cool man I will use a knife never thought of doing that before but would make thing a lot easier!!! By glass I mean the panes of glass that you can see at the edges of the poly tunnel, to stop the fucking bunnies having anything!

So here's the plan

I will put the seeds in the prop with the lid on and copper tape round the bottom. Hopefully they wont get to hot without the plastic sheet on the top...

Then pot 'em up to the bigger pots when they are about a cm or so high because i dont want the roots to grow out of the bottom of the prop again.

~Satta

Ok guys. Two seeds in the prop. Fingers crossed for 'em. Lovely day so far let's hope it stays this way!

Will get back tomo and will crack 5 more seeds and check on the site.

I can confirm 100% that everything from the first round has died

~Satta

Hi guys. Went to the site, the 2 in the propagator have shown no signs of growth yet, but it has only been 6 days. 2 in paper and 4 in soil but they had not cracked before they went into the soil.

The 5 that I put in today all cracked, went very well. Gonna crack 3 more now. 2 had long roots, around a cm long 2 had medium roots around 4mm long and the last one had a really short one but it had just about cracked.

Put all 5 straight into bigger pots with copper tape around and put them in part which was a bit more shady, hopefully they won't get fried as I am wondering if this is what's happened to all the others. Will put some pics up soon.

So yea it was verrrrry hot and sweaty working out in the sun today as i do all my potting stuff down there, took about 45 mins today as I had a spliff stop half way through said a little prayer then left them to do they're business. Praying for the best now.

~Satta

OK here's the pic of the packet.

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Here's the seeds germinating away....

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The 5 KC #33 in pots with copper tape.

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The whole plot. The #33's are in the bottom corner of the glass, and there is also a Bahia in the pot next to it, the leaves are fucked but there's a green stalk there still so wondering if it could regrow?!?! The first two #33's are in the prop still.

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Peace

~Satta

e2a the seeds are in the prop next to the red cap, the darker soil. There's also a random bag seed, just out of some ganja that i had but i didnt put it in the paper...

Looking good The propigator should protect them from rabbits and their ilk. I took my plastic bottle protectors off to let my plants get a bit more light and air and then the next morning I woke up and thought SHIT my plants could all get munched by rabits! Couldnt get to them until evening, luckely they were all fine but I replaced the protectors!

So thats something you gotta think about, when you pot em up into bigger pots they will need some sort of protection from rabbits if they are open to them (if this makes sense )

Peace

Baker

Yea dude you're right. Luckily right by the site there are a lot of abandoned clay pots about 10 litres or so. So I'm gonna pot them up into there. Then they can stay in the glass box being rabbit proof before they go in the earth. The 3 have been in paper for 36 hours so far not cracked yet but hopefully by tomorrow they will be ready as they have to either go in tomorrow morning, or Saturday evening.

What do you guys reckon would be best; Put them in tomorrow morning even if they havent cracked? Or wait and let them stay in the paper until Saturday evening? That would mean they will be in the paper for 3 days or so. Give me some advice guerilla gods!

~Satta

You can germinate seeds by just placing them straight in soil and keeping moist. 36 hours is fine some take over a week to crack. Put them in tomorrow whenever is most convienient. Water the soil first, then add the seed, then add a light sprinkle of dry compost to just cover the seed. Check em as often as posssible whilst there young so they dont get too dry or too wet

Wake

Hey Satta, hey Wake reading ur diarys with interest, nice recovery Satta hope this batch goes well for you

hey sata, sorry i just seen your reply i picked up some coppertape from ebay for about £4. well worth it. i know how hard it is to grow seedlings outdoors from stratch had a friend who tried doing the same all it does is slow them down or kill them. can you not keep a few in your house?

Hey all,

My prayers have been answered (by whom I don't know but that's for a different thread) and today I was gifted with 4 beautiful plants poking up above the soil, I'm so proud!

3 of the 5 seedlings in the big pots were poking up, not too worried about the others as they weren't all cracked at the same time. Here's some pics...

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And the baby of the bunch

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One of the 2 in the prop was growing aswell here it is....

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The last one was rescued from the prop tray which was absolutely soaked twas like a bog. Because the tray meant the water could not drain out. It was completely drowned But I repotted it up into one of the big ones so hopefully will have better drainage from now on. Think the other KC33 left in the prop tray is drowned but I dug it out anyway and it had shown no signs of sprouting whatsoever?! So I put it in a bit pot anyway, does anyone reckon that a seed which has not sprouted after 9 days will work!? I don't really know why because it has been in the exact same conditions as the one that I rescued....

Also think that random bag seed is toast too.

I put the last three seeds that I just cracked in pots too aswell. One of them had a really long tail about a cm long that was all curly and seemed to be quite hairy (thought it could've possible been mould or maybe just root hairs?!?!) One had cracked with a little root and the other was not cracked yet but had to go in anyway. The one with the long root was really difficult to put in the soil with the tweezers but the root tip is pointing downwards.

So I have so far got 4/7 sprouts of the seeds that were already in soil today (not including the 3 I just put in) and hopefully at my next visit will have at least 3 more. I really am praying for these babies and I would be happy with just one girl!

Thanks

~Satta

PS weedindeed, not possible to look after any at all at my house as I live with my parents and they would definately NOT thank me for doing that, in fact I'm not actually sure what they know about my habits with the herb at all anyway...but hey what they don't know can't hurt them eh?!

Hey guys just a quick one: I know it's not instantly obvious but the last one has a bit of a red stem, the others don't. Any ideas?

Irie

~Satta

Sounds okay. Means the genetics are asian, no?

peace

p

Isnt it exciting when you see that first green leaf!

Regarding your seed you could try lighty scratching the outer coat of your seed (scarify) in one place, and then return to germinate as normal. This is a trick used to germ awkward seedlings but ya gotta be carefull or ya could ruin a good seed. You might wanna just wait and see if it does anything on its own.

Wake

Glasspaper/sandpaper in a match box is a classic method for scarifying (read it in Greg Green's Bible). Not sure what grit though. Something quite fine, 240?

Hi guys,

Think the seed is a gonner. Went down today, 4 shoots looking nice in the evening sun. 2 others starting to show life aswell now. More update in a few days and maybe some pics in a few days...

~Satta