-when you're doing calculations, the wattage thing is very confusing - you'd need around twenty compact fluoresecents to equal the amount of light given out by a 400w hps! (they are punted as being the equivalent of a 100w conventional lightbulb, but are in fact only around 20w) - If you want something cheap for vegging, use blue or daylight balanced cfs or fluorescents - or better still, an envirolite!