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calgacus
I germinated these first 6 seeds on april 20th, and they seem to be doing fine. They are a tad leafless though, which is concerning me.

calgacus
I germinated the remaining 4 seeds about a week later, and they seem to have grown to almost the same size.


calgacus
So, should I start feeding them something? The leaves seem to be growing, but not very fast. I probably should have started them off about a month sooner, but well I'm not really looking for jack and the beanstalk here, a few lowryder types with some nice bud at the end of the year should suffice my needs. I reckon now is probably a good time to plant them though, I went a walk round Corstorphine park yesterday and everything seems to be turning a nice shade of green, but I'd imagine my babies probably need more time to grow before letting them out into the wild.
the ferret
plenty of time yet buddy before putting them out i wouldent feed them nothing yet just keep the compost moist with water as theres no roots on them at the moment wait until you get about 3 sets of leaves on them before you think about putting them outdoors.nice plants passion no 1 yeilds about 5 oz a plant what i have read on here.
Bish
You really need to repot them & bury those lanky stems!
calgacus
Is that wise? Maybe I could just fill the pots up with more compo for now?

_ferret says I have no roots, so maybe repotting them will damage them.

Perhaps I didn't plant the seedlings deep enough, I heard about 1cm deep was best.

(thanks for the helps guys)
Bish
The only reason they're as lanky as they are, is because they've been stretching for light! Nothing to do with the depth you planted them. Lanky seedlings such as that ain't getting the best start in life.

Filling the pots up a bit more will achieve nothing mate, they need to be re-potted to bury their stems, & you need to get them under a close light.
the ferret
have you got any type of floros calacus lighting.
calgacus
Well, I filled up the pots with some more compo while I was away, and they seem to be a bit more stable. I will take your advice though and try to get them repotted as soon as possible.

Do you mean I should repot them in the same pots, but deeper, or into larger pots?

Giving them light in the first few weeks is going to be difficult though as I am currently living in sort of student accommodation and have to very careful where I put them whilst I am at college, but I guess I can on do my best. I might plant a couple prematurely and take the risk, I planted all ten seeds because it's my first time and wanted to increase chances of success. I can live with a few casualties.


the ferret
if you havent got any type of lighting you can put over them and you did repot them they will strech again
calgacus
And the other 4.
calgacus
QUOTE (the ferret @ May 3 2009, 05:24 PM) *
if you havent got any type of lighting you can put over them and you did repot them they will strech again


I was just hoping that natural sunlight would be enough, but it's been really shitty weather here the past few weeks so maybe that is the reason they haven't grown so well.
the ferret
they will come along no problems pots are for root space so i would have used the same pots as if you did use other pots you would have found hardly any root. when you do decided its time to put them out and i guess you are putting them in the ground just bury them quite deep you can judge that by the size of the plant with the wind blowing the plants around outdoors the steems will soon thicken up for you.maybe you could put them outside for a few hours each day to let them get blown around a bit. or try to put a fan on them if you can or maybe now that you have buried them down deeper and you cant do any of the above put them on the widow sil and leave the widow open.
weedineed
looking good mate. im growing passion 1# this year aswel only got two fems though but they look ok considering no light indoors. i didnt use any lights on my this year and they came along nice so far. if you need any help let us know. goodluck mate
calgacus
Thanks for all the help guys.

The leaves seem to be beefing up nicely and they all look healthy, but I'm going to try and get them repotted to bury the stalks a bit more in a few days. Not much I can do about the shitty weather, I'll maybe try and get them out in the sun if we get some at the weekend when it's a bit quieter.
RAZ
They'll be fine mate, outdoors never look as good as indoors when young, takes a few weeks for them to find there feet but when they do wink1.gif .....
calgacus
Thanks man. Just hope I don't get rumbled whilst I turn my dorm into a temporary nursery, you know.
calgacus
My plants have not had enough lights in the first few weeks and as a results the stalks are a bit lanky. They are healthy enough and that, and standing up well on their own, but some of them are slightly bent owing to the direction of the light.

I'm sure the stalks will thicken up over time, but I just wanted to know if I should maybe prop them up with something. If I leave them to grow like this will it present any growth problems later on? If the stalk is too long will this stunt the growth of the leaves, since bigger leaves put more stain on the stalk?

I've tried burying the stalks a bit deeper, but I think that will only encourage the stalks to grow again, and then the roots will be too deep. How deep can you bury the root base of the plant, or does not really matter than much so long as the nutrients are in the soil?
chickenlipsr4
Supercrop and LST them. It will fatten up stems and keep the plant lower so when you flower it doesn't tall and bendy
Bish
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 7 2009, 03:18 PM) *
My plants have not had enough lights in the first few weeks and as a results the stalks are a bit lanky. They are healthy enough and that, and standing up well on their own, but some of them are slightly bent owing to the direction of the light.

I'm sure the stalks will thicken up over time, but I just wanted to know if I should maybe prop them up with something. If I leave them to grow like this will it present any growth problems later on? If the stalk is too long will this stunt the growth of the leaves, since bigger leaves put more stain on the stalk?

I've tried burying the stalks a bit deeper, but I think that will only encourage the stalks to grow again, and then the roots will be too deep. How deep can you bury the root base of the plant, or does not really matter than much so long as the nutrients are in the soil?


You need to get them under some lighting!
calgacus
QUOTE (chickenlipsr4 @ May 7 2009, 02:46 PM) *
Supercrop and LST them. It will fatten up stems and keep the plant lower so when you flower it doesn't tall and bendy


Supercrop and do what?

Sorry, can you please elucidate further on that, I have no idea what you mean.

Supercrop=grow them in bunches of three?
calgacus
QUOTE (Bish @ May 7 2009, 02:53 PM) *
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 7 2009, 03:18 PM) *
My plants have not had enough lights in the first few weeks and as a results the stalks are a bit lanky. They are healthy enough and that, and standing up well on their own, but some of them are slightly bent owing to the direction of the light.

I'm sure the stalks will thicken up over time, but I just wanted to know if I should maybe prop them up with something. If I leave them to grow like this will it present any growth problems later on? If the stalk is too long will this stunt the growth of the leaves, since bigger leaves put more stain on the stalk?

I've tried burying the stalks a bit deeper, but I think that will only encourage the stalks to grow again, and then the roots will be too deep. How deep can you bury the root base of the plant, or does not really matter than much so long as the nutrients are in the soil?


You need to get them under some lighting!


I know!

But I can't do nothing about it.

I can't afford to set up a lighting system in here, and the weather is just plain crap ATM, so I have to make the best of that.
Bish
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 7 2009, 03:55 PM) *
I know!

But I can't do nothing about it.

I can't afford to set up a lighting system in here, and the weather is just plain crap ATM, so I have to make the best of that.


A few enviro household bulbs is better than nowt.
calgacus
QUOTE (Bish @ May 7 2009, 03:58 PM) *
A few enviro household bulbs is better than nowt.


So I should leave them under a strong lamp at through the night then? I'll need to wear a mask then to sleep.
gavmc
Corstorphine park , edinburgh ??? would they grow ok in scottish weather ?
chickenlipsr4
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 7 2009, 03:53 PM) *
QUOTE (chickenlipsr4 @ May 7 2009, 02:46 PM) *
Supercrop and LST them. It will fatten up stems and keep the plant lower so when you flower it doesn't tall and bendy


Supercrop and do what?

Sorry, can you please elucidate further on that, I have no idea what you mean.

Supercrop=grow them in bunches of three?


Sorry i didn't realise you hadn't sorted your lighting issue prior to threads being merged. You def need that sorting first and foremost then stem crushing(supercropping) and tieing down might help sort things from there on in.
calgacus
QUOTE (gavmc @ May 7 2009, 04:13 PM) *
Corstorphine park , edinburgh ??? would they grow ok in scottish weather ?


Going ta find out, innit!

The weather tends to be rather more clement in the east, so that's a potential advantage... usually.
calgacus
QUOTE (chickenlipsr4 @ May 7 2009, 04:14 PM) *
Sorry i didn't realise you hadn't sorted your lighting issue prior to threads being merged. You def need that sorting first and foremost then stem crushing(supercropping) and tieing down might help sort things from there on in.


OK, what's stem crushing then....?
chickenlipsr4
If you pinch stems between your thumb and forefinger they pop and bend slightly. However over the coming days that injury becomes stronger, wider and more lignified and will in future support a bigger bud. How much use it is when growing outdoors I'm not entirely sure tho.
calgacus
QUOTE (chickenlipsr4 @ May 7 2009, 04:18 PM) *
If you pinch stems between your thumb and forefinger they pop and bend slightly. However over the coming days that injury becomes stronger, wider and more lignified and will in future support a bigger bud. How much use it is when growing outdoors I'm not entirely sure tho.


Sounds risky. I might try that on a couple of them.
gavmc
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 7 2009, 04:15 PM) *
QUOTE (gavmc @ May 7 2009, 04:13 PM) *
Corstorphine park , edinburgh ??? would they grow ok in scottish weather ?


Going ta find out, innit!

The weather tends to be rather more clement in the east, so that's a potential advantage... usually.


Nice one bud hope it all goes well im from Edinburgh originally, stayed up north for 3 year. let me know how they get on

Toke On
calgacus
Well I stuck up next to a lamp overnight, and they are leafing up nicely, but some of the stalks are still shooting up. I really can't do anything about it, damn this weather! I guess I could repot them, but they probably would only shoot up again, and I'd have the roots buried even deeper then. So I reckon it's probably better to leave them and when I get round to potting them outside I'll then bury the stalks a bit deeper. Forecast says the weather might be a bit better over the weekend so might get the chance to sneak them out into the greenhouse for a few hours.

Well, I am enjoying the experience of this all, and learning a bit about not only growing weed, but gardening in general. I've wanted to grow some for a long time, it seems to be the only way to get a decent supply of weed on this island these days. If it all goes to pot, then I'll know better second time. I hope I get enough nice bud in the end to see me through another miserable winter though.
calgacus
If I bury the stalk, will it turn into roots?
TicTacToe
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 8 2009, 08:05 PM) *
If I bury the stalk, will it turn into roots?


If it's still quite "fresh" and not like a tree bark so i've heard..

fuck, so stoned..hope I made sense
calgacus
Perfect sense thanks.
calgacus

QUOTE
One of the most effective types used by growers on the forums has been the Copper Tape method. When a slug or snail slides over a copper surface, the motion of the animal combines with the liquid nature of the slime and the ions in the copper surface to induce an electro-chemical reaction which the slug finds very uncomfortable. Copper can be acquired from numerous sources, although the most effective sort is tape which is purpose-made as a slug-deterrent, and can be bought from good garden centres or online. This is one of the most popular and effective methods.


What about using a ring of 1p and 2p coins as a cheaper alternative to that? It says here

QUOTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_One_Penny_coin
The coin, known at first as a "new penny", was initially minted from bronze, but since 1992 it has been minted in copper-plated steel.


Would the galvanising effect of the underlying steel alter the effect it had on slimy slugs?
legalise
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 11 2009, 12:45 PM) *
QUOTE
One of the most effective types used by growers on the forums has been the Copper Tape method. When a slug or snail slides over a copper surface, the motion of the animal combines with the liquid nature of the slime and the ions in the copper surface to induce an electro-chemical reaction which the slug finds very uncomfortable. Copper can be acquired from numerous sources, although the most effective sort is tape which is purpose-made as a slug-deterrent, and can be bought from good garden centres or online. This is one of the most popular and effective methods.


What about using a ring of 1p and 2p coins as a cheaper alternative to that? It says here

QUOTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_One_Penny_coin
The coin, known at first as a "new penny", was initially minted from bronze, but since 1992 it has been minted in copper-plated steel.


Would the galvanising effect of the underlying steel alter the effect it had on slimy slugs?


I wouldnt risk it and just get a roll of tape for a few pounds unsure.gif
weedineed
buddy i used fleebay to buy my slug tape £3.25 it cost for 4m. anyway im growing passion 1# this year aswel hope we both do good lol.gif
smeagol
i know money is tight for some people but when your're talking bout maybe pulling 5oz + from a plant surely a little bit of expenditure is worth it .. as in copper tape/ferts/water crystals .. unsure.gif yinyang.gif
Marcos
QUOTE (smeagol @ May 11 2009, 03:49 PM) *
i know money is tight for some people but when your're talking bout maybe pulling 5oz + from a plant surely a little bit of expenditure is worth it .. as in copper tape/ferts/water crystals .. unsure.gif yinyang.gif


Ditto alien2.gif
calgacus
Couldn't find any tape for a few quid yesterday, only strips for about 15 quid. I'll try tomorrow again. Anyway, I'm not sure I'll get 5oz a plant of these they aren't leafing up as fast as I think they should.
smeagol
QUOTE (calgacus @ May 11 2009, 04:41 PM) *
Couldn't find any tape for a few quid yesterday, only strips for about 15 quid. I'll try tomorrow again. Anyway, I'm not sure I'll get 5oz a plant of these they aren't leafing up as fast as I think they should.


wait till you get them under that big hps in the sky wink.gif yinyang.gif
calgacus
I think it might still be too soon I dunno, it still gets a bit parky at night here.
calgacus
Looking at some of the other pics of 3 week old plants I don't feel that mine are doing so well. I got a spot I think that is pretty discreet, well I never saw another living soul while I was there. But I'm worried about light, a lot of trees about you know. It's the best I can do though. How many can I plant within 0.5mx0.5m? The soil seems quite good, I had to dig it up a bit and remove loads of stones but it seems quite a nice consistency. When I was digging I also didn't see a single insect, hopefully that is a good sign.
calgacus
How many can I plant within 0.5mx0.5m?
Pickels
Nice thread, i'm watching with interest because this is also my first year at growing.
I hope your ladies do just fine. cool.gif
LEmZz
gd luck wid grow cool.gif
calgacus
Thanks guys. I hope you learn from all the mistakes I'm inevitably making.

Two or three of my chicks have turned pale and white, not the nice dark healthy green colour I think they should be. And they have wilted a bit, I'm not sure what I've done wrong, too much water, not enough light (probably), maybe repotting them too much. So I've just left these ones out somewhere behind a bush where no-one will likely see them with some copper tape round them and hopefully a bit of sunlight and fresh air will bring them round.

I went out to the park with them to give them some light after college, and ended up spilling a couple of them out and having to repot them. I'm sure this is doing them no good.

My advice to both of you is make damn sure you have a proper place to raise them in the first month. I've been trying to grow them without anyone around here noticing and it's practically impossible.

Anyway, I got my plot set up and I am going to just take the fuckers and plant them and hope for the best, I can't be arsed pissing about with this anymore, I have to get on and study for exams so I don't really have the time anyway.

So does anyone know how many I can cram in to a 0.25m square plot? I'd reckon 3, but maybe 6? I don't really care if it's a bit of a waste, I just want a few ozzies to get me through the year, I don't really smoke a lot anyway.
Pickels
Im just guesing but,
Id go buy how "bushy" your plants are going to be, becuase u need to get plenty of light to the lower branches
to get max yeild off a plant, so try not to crowed them togeather.

Also you have to think of how much goodness in the groung for the plants to feed on.
(are you planing on feeding though out the year)

"During the growth period the plants most need nitrogen and potassium. If your plants become deficient
in either of these during the grow period they will turn yellow."

"Cheap soil mix can quickly lead to deficiencies because there is little nutrient in it that is readily available
to our plants. So you have to begin adding An adult plant liquid fertilizer."

Good luck with the little lasies
Pickels
oh this is my space for germinating & doing a little pre - growth be they hit the big
out side world.
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