Right, not first time doing outdoor growing, but thinking of large scale grow with the seeds I got from a polinated female. The thing is want to keep it budget worthy. Got a few spots that seem to have fertie soils (cow manure, near farms etc. ) and thinking should a simple square shaped dig of about 10 cm deep filled with some bagged soil (not compost) do the trick ? Or should I just leave the ground the way it is ? With the volume of seeds I got will be doing straight into ground no paper towel no propagation + transplantation. Then let seeds do their thing and occasionally have a go with bio veg/bloom.
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Detoxed you don’t need compost or soil, it is best to fork over a piece of ground for each plant, about 60 to 90cm sq to the fork depth, taking out all the weed roots in it and dress it with 120grms of a base fertiliser. You should not need any other feed just rain or water if dry will be fine. A two meter tall plant 1.5 mtr in diameter will have a 1.4 to 2 mtr diameter rootball and can yield 500 grams + bud.
The problem with seedlings is you won’t have a clue of sex, also every slug snail rabbit etc will want to eat them as soon as they germinate. Final plant spacing should be 1.2 to 2 meters apart. So sowing several in the middle of each patch and covering them a clear 5 litre mineral water bottle with the bottom cut out and a cane through top into the ground will protect the seedlings until they get bigger and stop it being blown away, ie like a little green house.
It is also important to use good seed, if the fem knocked your socks off its likely her seedlings will. ie sow rubbish get rubbish, sow killer get killer.
The problem with seedlings is you won’t have a clue of sex, also every slug snail rabbit etc will want to eat them as soon as they germinate. Final plant spacing should be 1.2 to 2 meters apart. So sowing several in the middle of each patch and covering them a clear 5 litre mineral water bottle with the bottom cut out and a cane through top into the ground will protect the seedlings until they get bigger and stop it being blown away, ie like a little green house.
It is also important to use good seed, if the fem knocked your socks off its likely her seedlings will. ie sow rubbish get rubbish, sow killer get killer.
Cheers ot1, that's some real good info there. Just one point that needs clearification : 120grms of a base fertiliser. What kind of base fertiliser ? or just any I can find ? God knows what uk420 users would do without one or two knowledge banks like you !
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Detoxed
A base fertiliser is a compound that contains a balance of macro and micro elements both in fast and slow release forms. It can be forked into the top soil or used as a top dressing as a pre treatment before planting for the season.
A chemical form is national Growmore which is 7:7:7 originally produced by the British government as a complete fertiliser for the dig for victory programme in WW2.
Two others that are mainly organically based but supplemented with chemical potassium to get the balance right. Are:-
Blood fish and bone = An organic based fertiliser of animal origin containing 5% nitrogen and 5% phosphorus pentoxide and 6% potassium oxide in the form of dried and ground fishmeal, blood and bonemeal with added potash fertiliser.
Q4 = A compound fertiliser comprising 5.3% nitrogen, 7.5% phosphorus pentoxide and 10% potassium oxide 3% magnesium oxide and iron, copper, zinc, boron, manganese and molybdenum as trace elements.
Q4 is also used as a fertiliser to make potting compost.
A chemical form is national Growmore which is 7:7:7 originally produced by the British government as a complete fertiliser for the dig for victory programme in WW2.
Two others that are mainly organically based but supplemented with chemical potassium to get the balance right. Are:-
Blood fish and bone = An organic based fertiliser of animal origin containing 5% nitrogen and 5% phosphorus pentoxide and 6% potassium oxide in the form of dried and ground fishmeal, blood and bonemeal with added potash fertiliser.
Q4 = A compound fertiliser comprising 5.3% nitrogen, 7.5% phosphorus pentoxide and 10% potassium oxide 3% magnesium oxide and iron, copper, zinc, boron, manganese and molybdenum as trace elements.
Q4 is also used as a fertiliser to make potting compost.
Tnx ofr the advice ot1 !
Detoxed
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| A chemical form is national Growmore which is 7:7:7 originally produced by the British government as a complete fertiliser for the dig for victory programme in WW2 |
..i've got some of that in my shed ,i never knew that about it though , i feel tempted to fork over the barren council maintained bit of rubbish strewn grass outside the block and plant a load of leeks now:)
o t what would you advise if the ground seems to be mostly clay.where my plants were the soil seemed to be very hard and lumpy not what i was after at all . i intend to use the same plot but i want to prepare it a bit better beforehand.
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cf I have grown in clay soil for nearly 50 years.
I would suggest if you can you turn the soil over in big chunks during this month then leave it alone until the end of April. This will allow the frost to work on it. The frost makes clay flocculate into granules creating a better tilth to the soil.
In the spring you can just fork it through, the lumps should break up easily. Work 4 to 5 ounces of your growmore into it per sq yard at the same time and top dress with a little dolomite lime.
If you really want to help the soil start composting your kitchen waste now. Once your plants are growing away well next year, mulch the ground around them with as much compost as you can. This will be all you need to do apart from watering through the year when needed.
The other thing you can do now is follow the street cleaners and collect the bags of leaves they sweep up. Wet each bag full of leaves with a can of water, tie it up, poke a couple of pencil sized holes and find somewhere to stash the bags in a heap. In the spring they will be partly broken down and make even more mulch.
I would suggest if you can you turn the soil over in big chunks during this month then leave it alone until the end of April. This will allow the frost to work on it. The frost makes clay flocculate into granules creating a better tilth to the soil.
In the spring you can just fork it through, the lumps should break up easily. Work 4 to 5 ounces of your growmore into it per sq yard at the same time and top dress with a little dolomite lime.
If you really want to help the soil start composting your kitchen waste now. Once your plants are growing away well next year, mulch the ground around them with as much compost as you can. This will be all you need to do apart from watering through the year when needed.
The other thing you can do now is follow the street cleaners and collect the bags of leaves they sweep up. Wet each bag full of leaves with a can of water, tie it up, poke a couple of pencil sized holes and find somewhere to stash the bags in a heap. In the spring they will be partly broken down and make even more mulch.
very intresting ot1 thanks man, all my outgrowing has been done using indoor soil concepts.
I dig a whole about 1meter deep in a 1metrer wide circle shape. Then pour in some high quality all mix soil from my local grow shop. Then transplant from smallish pots into the allmix.
For the rest of the year i add organic liquid fert to buckets of water which i feed to the plants when no rain is forcasted.
Quite a labour intesive methord this one, worked well for me tho this year.
Would like to try out a more natral ot1 appoarch next year. Have some Purple haze seeds and gonna get some medicano madness seeds for next year.
I rekon purple haze will grow well in uk, as i recently got hold of some and i could tell it was this years harvest grown in this country. It had some seeds in it so im gonna use them, as i dont no anywere that sells purplehaze seeds
I dig a whole about 1meter deep in a 1metrer wide circle shape. Then pour in some high quality all mix soil from my local grow shop. Then transplant from smallish pots into the allmix.
For the rest of the year i add organic liquid fert to buckets of water which i feed to the plants when no rain is forcasted.
Quite a labour intesive methord this one, worked well for me tho this year.
Would like to try out a more natral ot1 appoarch next year. Have some Purple haze seeds and gonna get some medicano madness seeds for next year.
I rekon purple haze will grow well in uk, as i recently got hold of some and i could tell it was this years harvest grown in this country. It had some seeds in it so im gonna use them, as i dont no anywere that sells purplehaze seeds
thanks ot i,m off to see the plot fork in hand 
That is funny... I just been googling for me allotment, on the lines of 'national growmore', a cheap fertilizer developed during wwll and guess what site I found? Hehe, this thread. So here's a bump to the thread and good grows to all guerilla growers even though I'm sticking to legal plants at the mo...
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